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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#81
so sad that MMA is not there.....MMA where art thou
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
March 23 2012 00:40 GMT
#82
bad guy TEAMLIQUID ESPORTS

Cuts off at 40 because of "NA players creeping in"

Doesn't cut off at 30 or 25 because it would exclude 3 TL players

at least they had the decency to put them below the "grubby line"!

MKP definitely needs to win in front of a crowd to shake the kong status. I mean, it's often said in the comfort of his own home on ladder he's unbeatable but in tournaments he falls to pieces. MLG winter PPV thingy was a happy medium between the two, but he still needs to show the kind of personal strength that DRG can show.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 23 2012 00:40 GMT
#83
I hope you realize, wax, that every time I read what you write about DRG, I get all teary eyed.
<3
moo...for DRG
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 00:42:06
March 23 2012 00:40 GMT
#84
Nevermind
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 00:42:37
March 23 2012 00:40 GMT
#85
Where was it said that MVP isn't going this weekend? Sad news to me.
edit: Oh, I guess he was just never crossed off on liquipedia.
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
March 23 2012 00:40 GMT
#86
On March 23 2012 08:58 PiXiE777 wrote:
Apology not accepted! BlinG's mom :-)

Well, Fionn, tree.hugger and Waxangel, what do you do now?
JayConn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States408 Posts
March 23 2012 00:41 GMT
#87
I want a Stephano - Polt final, just because it would be absurd to have them in their 3rd finals in one month.
Tanner
Profile Joined October 2010
United States38 Posts
March 23 2012 00:41 GMT
#88
CrazymoviNG will soon be #1! I miss his stream
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 23 2012 00:41 GMT
#89
I think this is fairly accurate, especially the top 15. Although I think Ret is a little bit high to be honest, Red Bull LAN was just practice and I shouldn't count to much on the mini-tourmanent but w/e.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
March 23 2012 00:42 GMT
#90
What people don't know is PuMa lives in a starcraft terran lair speeding his days and night perfecting the most amazing strategies ever, only to be unleashed at his chosen time. This is it.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 23 2012 00:42 GMT
#91
This is demuslim and crazymovings time to shine. Easy finals!
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 00:46:03
March 23 2012 00:44 GMT
#92
On March 23 2012 09:38 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 09:32 Prplppleatr wrote:
Why is stephano above polt?

Yes stephano recently beat him, but in the 3 other times they have met in the past 4 months, stephano was crushed...1 win doesn't make up for 3 losses imo (for tournaments, other 3 losses are in Assembly & MSI pro cups)

If i missed any other times they have played, my apologies, but I believe these are the only 4 times they have played one another recently (within past 4 months).


Well, the ranking represents more than their results against each other. Between the Supertournament and Assembly Polt did not show as many results as Stephano.

Edit: You can also read the JYP example under criteria.


True, but i stil disagree that Polt < Stephano, using the JYP example, because Polt is an overall better player. And, as stated, has beat stephano several times more. But ya, im sure that is their reasoning...i just disagree. I would even put him below parting, who i believe is a better overall player, but that is just my opinion
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
March 23 2012 00:44 GMT
#93
On March 23 2012 08:57 dekarp wrote:
Getting pretty tired of all these "MKP still a kong, needs just another bigger, better victory to relinquish himself of the title" shit that keeps going on. Oh, he only beat a GSL champion, but there was no crowd! CPL? IPL4 qualifiers? There were crowds there. I mean, where is the line going to be drawn? Winning a GSL is probably the only thing that will stop this, even if he wins this event I can still see "Well he's taken 2nd soooo many times and he won 2 events in such a short time span, let's see if he can break the Kong line with a 1st place in GSL now that it's 2 months later and his hotstreak has faded."

Sorry, I'm just getting tired of it is all.


Winning qualifiers and foreign events don't mean anything.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
March 23 2012 00:46 GMT
#94
Awesome writeup!
Really rooting for a Stephano victory.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
March 23 2012 00:47 GMT
#95
Wait, what?

"Higher ranked player is better than a lower ranked player in a head to head...For example, there are many Terran players ranked beneath JYP who we think could beat him in a 1v1, but we think JYP is just better on the whole."

Am I the only confused by the contradiction?
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
March 23 2012 00:47 GMT
#96
The Grubby Line; not gonna lie, was totally laughing at this. Classic.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
March 23 2012 00:48 GMT
#97
On March 23 2012 09:41 eYeball wrote:
I think this is fairly accurate, especially the top 15. Although I think Ret is a little bit high to be honest, Red Bull LAN was just practice and I shouldn't count to much on the mini-tourmanent but w/e.


I agree about the Red Bull LAN

However, Ret has the easiest pool so far and that may help him get a decent placing
you live and you learn
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 23 2012 00:49 GMT
#98
On March 23 2012 09:47 whoopingchow wrote:
Wait, what?

"Higher ranked player is better than a lower ranked player in a head to head...For example, there are many Terran players ranked beneath JYP who we think could beat him in a 1v1, but we think JYP is just better on the whole."

Am I the only confused by the contradiction?

Read what's right above that.

"we can tell you a couple of things that are NOT applicable to this ranking."
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
March 23 2012 00:50 GMT
#99
Hoping this is SaSe's crazy breakout tournament. Or another MC victory
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
March 23 2012 00:51 GMT
#100
Lol you put Hasu and Socke below TLO, Bling, Grubby, Demuslim and Morrow?!
Do you guys watch European Starcraft at all?
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