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On March 24 2012 00:54 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 00:18 Lord_Maximus wrote:On March 23 2012 23:14 bikefrog wrote:On March 23 2012 14:54 onPHYRE wrote: Very nice PR. Would love to see one including everyone from the TL staff some day.
Side note, personal top 5 Z in the world atm:
1. DRG 2. Stephano 3. NesTea 4. Leenock 5. Curious Was about to call bogus, but I guess there aren't that many high profile korean zergs atm. Still, you have no basis for rating Stephano over those guys. And I'd argue Leenock is showing way better form than NesTea for some time now. Being 2nd elo and winning lots of tournaments isn't enough basis to consider ranking him higher than those guys? I don't get what he's supposed to do to be ranked above them then. Win the GSL? Win a Premier tournament in 2012 at least(no lone star clash doesn't count.), or do better than them in the GSL. Currently there's no way Stephano deserves to be ranked above Leenock.
Which tournament has Leenock won in 2012? Or Nestea? Or Curious? I personally think, that Leenock is maybe a bit stronger than Stephano, but in his last international apperiances Nestea lost to a lot of players, who are not as good as Stephano. And putting Curios above him has nothing to back it up at all. I think my personal zerg-ranking would look like this: 1. DRG 2. gap 3. Leenock 4. Stephano 5. Nestea 6. Curios/Lucky/July
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Waiting for the day IdrA is a force again.
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Always so mean to poor incontrol :3
Like the list, BlinG fighting
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TLO over Socke and Haus does not make sense at all.
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I really enjoyed reading this ranking. I hope the tournament can deliver, just like you guys did.
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Bling and Thorzain below Demuslim and Sase respectively? Ret over Naniwa? Questionable ranking in my opinion but I guess it is basically impossible to rank players anyway. I too think that Symbol might just crush many a nerd this weekend.
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Hasuobs and Socke behind Tlo and Idra / Demuslim, yeah right tl...
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Don't care much about the actual positions of the rankings, as they are debatable. However, very much enjoyed the reasoning and comments for each player. Well done!
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On March 24 2012 03:47 Resilient wrote: Don't care much about the actual positions of the rankings, as they are debatable. However, very much enjoyed the reasoning and comments for each player. Well done! I'm of the same exact opinion. With different matchups and their respective specialists, there's no way we can clearly define an absolute winner. Rankings are a way to reflect on these players strenghts and results, or eventually an occasion to have a discussion and nothing more.
This said, the obligatory whining: Ret higher than TheStc or Naniwa is highly debatable (despite the obvious skill of the Droneking, ofc), and I don't really see why HasuObs or Socke should be 'less favorite' than TLO or Idra. Also, Demuslim seems quite overrated to me.
I definitively agree about Sheth since lately he's beasting it up, with Stephano having good chances and all the ranking in general.
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On March 23 2012 08:48 NrGmonk wrote: Oz is really overrated here imo. I would put instead of, Oz 4th, Alive 5th, Stephano 6th, Polt 7th, Stephano 4th, Polt 5th, Alive 6th, Oz 7th. Oz's achievements/level of play seem too close to Parting's at 8th to justify a 4th place ranking.
You don't watch any online cup's do you? He's good enaugh for that spot.
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Miss spelling on FnaticRCaLive. It says "Fnatric". But DRG #1 I agree. :p
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I'm so looking forward to StephanovP
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I'm surprised nobody's calling DRG overrated this time... It's like a tradition around here!
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On March 24 2012 05:02 neoghaleon55 wrote: I'm surprised nobody's calling DRG overrated this time... It's like a tradition around here! Winning a GSL finals kinda helps out.. Oh wait, you're that super fanboy who made all the pics and stuff, nvm...
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On March 24 2012 05:01 Kilos wrote: Miss spelling on FnaticRCaLive. It says "Fnatric". But DRG #1 I agree. :p Misspelling on Miss spelling...
Am I the only one who's got a feeling that Symbol is gonna be a force to be reckoned with to the very end this weekend? The guy's been looking really, really scary in online tournaments the last couple of weeks. (Not that I think he'll take it all, but he'll probably be pretty close.)
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I find it very hard to belive that players like sase, idra or incontrol are stronger than Rain! Every time fnatic plays in teamleagues, Rain comes to save the day, smashing foreigners and koreans alike.
Mark my words, Rain will make it far this time
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On March 23 2012 08:35 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Impressive as his results might be, there's a not-so-dirty caveat to PuMa's success. When top, Code S level Koreans are involved, PuMa falls to the wayside.
Puma never gets the respect he deserves. At the last IEM he topped his group of Zenio, Killer, Mana, Select and Dimaga. Then he beat JYP and MMA before losing 2-3 to MC in the Finals. Just so you know, MMA, JYP and MC were Code S Koreans in GSL Season 1 2012. How does he fall by the wayside beating 2 of 3? And he has gotten the better of MC in their history, and was up 2-1 vs him in said series.
Finally, in the past at MLG's he has defeated Nada (pool play), Polt, Losira, and Bomber, more Code S Koreans. He has always been right up there.
He at least deserves the #6 spot, above Polt, Parting and Stephano.
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On March 24 2012 04:54 -Kira wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 08:48 NrGmonk wrote: Oz is really overrated here imo. I would put instead of, Oz 4th, Alive 5th, Stephano 6th, Polt 7th, Stephano 4th, Polt 5th, Alive 6th, Oz 7th. Oz's achievements/level of play seem too close to Parting's at 8th to justify a 4th place ranking. You don't watch any online cup's do you? He's good enaugh for that spot. What online cups has Oz done well in?
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On March 24 2012 05:15 NrGmonk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 04:54 -Kira wrote:On March 23 2012 08:48 NrGmonk wrote: Oz is really overrated here imo. I would put instead of, Oz 4th, Alive 5th, Stephano 6th, Polt 7th, Stephano 4th, Polt 5th, Alive 6th, Oz 7th. Oz's achievements/level of play seem too close to Parting's at 8th to justify a 4th place ranking. You don't watch any online cup's do you? He's good enaugh for that spot. What online cups has Oz done well in? Reasonably well in all the ESVs and other small Korean tourneys.
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