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Power Rank - MLG Winter Edition - Page 13

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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 23 2012 15:28 GMT
#241
People who are like: "Why isn't MVP/MMA/Nestea/Genius/Puzzle/Leenock/Jjakji/whoever on the list?!" Need to learn to read. These are the players going to the MLG Winter Championship. Many Korean players have their GSL matches around the same time, so can't be in two places at once.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
March 23 2012 15:30 GMT
#242
On March 24 2012 00:18 Lord_Maximus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 23:14 bikefrog wrote:
On March 23 2012 14:54 onPHYRE wrote:
Very nice PR. Would love to see one including everyone from the TL staff some day.

Side note, personal top 5 Z in the world atm:

1. DRG
2. Stephano
3. NesTea
4. Leenock
5. Curious


Was about to call bogus, but I guess there aren't that many high profile korean zergs atm. Still, you have no basis for rating Stephano over those guys. And I'd argue Leenock is showing way better form than NesTea for some time now.


Being 2nd elo and winning lots of tournaments isn't enough basis to consider ranking him higher than those guys? I don't get what he's supposed to do to be ranked above them then. Win the GSL?

Play against them. Yes, Stephano can win against Koreans no doubt but when he wins a tournament with at least 10 top calibre Koreans we can start to talk. Bring up ELO is laughable and if it's only about winning tournament you could rank Goody higher than most Koreans last year... At least have a sound argument.
Panthae
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada205 Posts
March 23 2012 15:31 GMT
#243
Polt should be over Stephano imo.
For Aïur?
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
March 23 2012 15:32 GMT
#244
I'd say this is a very well thought out and written Power rank.
I mostly agree with it, my only concerns would be Oz being 4th, I'm not entirely sure whether he deserves it, but I might be wrong too.

On a slightly different note, GO FOXER!!! ;]
Lord_Maximus
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 15:39:47
March 23 2012 15:36 GMT
#245
On March 24 2012 00:30 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 00:18 Lord_Maximus wrote:
On March 23 2012 23:14 bikefrog wrote:
On March 23 2012 14:54 onPHYRE wrote:
Very nice PR. Would love to see one including everyone from the TL staff some day.

Side note, personal top 5 Z in the world atm:

1. DRG
2. Stephano
3. NesTea
4. Leenock
5. Curious


Was about to call bogus, but I guess there aren't that many high profile korean zergs atm. Still, you have no basis for rating Stephano over those guys. And I'd argue Leenock is showing way better form than NesTea for some time now.


Being 2nd elo and winning lots of tournaments isn't enough basis to consider ranking him higher than those guys? I don't get what he's supposed to do to be ranked above them then. Win the GSL?

Play against them. Yes, Stephano can win against Koreans no doubt but when he wins a tournament with at least 10 top calibre Koreans we can start to talk. Bring up ELO is laughable and if it's only about winning tournament you could rank Goody higher than most Koreans last year... At least have a sound argument.


This is where you point me to those amazing results nestea/curious has had this year. Curious is in great form right now but I don't see how you can have "no basis" for ranking stephano above him. It doesn't matter though, stephano hasn't played in the gsl so he's obviously not to ever be considered a good player, no no. Only koreans can be considered good, sorry for arguing. I didn't realise there was a set number of koreans you had to beat in one tournament before you get to be ranked high.
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
March 23 2012 15:42 GMT
#246
On March 23 2012 22:04 shawnyee wrote:
sjow had a weak rank imo, he should be top 30.


He doesn't attend Columbus anyway but I'd agree with you. So underrated :<
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 23 2012 15:47 GMT
#247
On March 24 2012 00:31 Panthae wrote:
Polt should be over Stephano imo.

They are sorta equal really, theres a reason why they are just besides each other. Stephano is higher since he won their last encounter, and its up to polt to see how it goes next time they meet
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
March 23 2012 15:47 GMT
#248
I'm sure this power rank is slightly a troll!!!!!! there must have been some smiles in the TL office when they did this
Chill Winston......
niilzon
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium105 Posts
March 23 2012 15:51 GMT
#249
Nice writeup.
Why is Idra ranked there is still a mistery to me, however.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 23 2012 15:54 GMT
#250
On March 24 2012 00:18 Lord_Maximus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 23:14 bikefrog wrote:
On March 23 2012 14:54 onPHYRE wrote:
Very nice PR. Would love to see one including everyone from the TL staff some day.

Side note, personal top 5 Z in the world atm:

1. DRG
2. Stephano
3. NesTea
4. Leenock
5. Curious


Was about to call bogus, but I guess there aren't that many high profile korean zergs atm. Still, you have no basis for rating Stephano over those guys. And I'd argue Leenock is showing way better form than NesTea for some time now.


Being 2nd elo and winning lots of tournaments isn't enough basis to consider ranking him higher than those guys? I don't get what he's supposed to do to be ranked above them then. Win the GSL?

Win a Premier tournament in 2012 at least(no lone star clash doesn't count.), or do better than them in the GSL. Currently there's no way Stephano deserves to be ranked above Leenock.
Alacast
Profile Joined December 2011
United States205 Posts
March 23 2012 16:00 GMT
#251
On March 23 2012 08:57 dekarp wrote:
Getting pretty tired of all these "MKP still a kong, needs just another bigger, better victory to relinquish himself of the title" shit that keeps going on. Oh, he only beat a GSL champion, but there was no crowd! CPL? IPL4 qualifiers? There were crowds there. I mean, where is the line going to be drawn? Winning a GSL is probably the only thing that will stop this, even if he wins this event I can still see "Well he's taken 2nd soooo many times and he won 2 events in such a short time span, let's see if he can break the Kong line with a 1st place in GSL now that it's 2 months later and his hotstreak has faded."

Sorry, I'm just getting tired of it is all.


Seems only GSL and MLG count towards ending his run as Kong. Makes sense to me.
Let us not rail about justice as long as we have arms and the freedom to use them. -Frank Herbert
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
March 23 2012 16:08 GMT
#252
On March 23 2012 08:57 dekarp wrote:
Getting pretty tired of all these "MKP still a kong, needs just another bigger, better victory to relinquish himself of the title" shit that keeps going on. Oh, he only beat a GSL champion, but there was no crowd! CPL? IPL4 qualifiers? There were crowds there. I mean, where is the line going to be drawn? Winning a GSL is probably the only thing that will stop this, even if he wins this event I can still see "Well he's taken 2nd soooo many times and he won 2 events in such a short time span, let's see if he can break the Kong line with a 1st place in GSL now that it's 2 months later and his hotstreak has faded."

Sorry, I'm just getting tired of it is all.


The line is here:

Code S Champion

---- Everything below this counts as a 'special event' ----

MLG (debatable, but I don't think it counts)
CPL
IPL4 quals
etc.
Everyday Girl's Day~!
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 23 2012 16:19 GMT
#253
Stopped reading at "schizophrenia". SCHIZOPHRENIA IS NOT SPLIT PERSONALITY. Get it straight, people!

OK, will start reading again now.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Lord_Maximus
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 16:30:03
March 23 2012 16:29 GMT
#254
On March 24 2012 00:54 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 00:18 Lord_Maximus wrote:
On March 23 2012 23:14 bikefrog wrote:
On March 23 2012 14:54 onPHYRE wrote:
Very nice PR. Would love to see one including everyone from the TL staff some day.

Side note, personal top 5 Z in the world atm:

1. DRG
2. Stephano
3. NesTea
4. Leenock
5. Curious


Was about to call bogus, but I guess there aren't that many high profile korean zergs atm. Still, you have no basis for rating Stephano over those guys. And I'd argue Leenock is showing way better form than NesTea for some time now.


Being 2nd elo and winning lots of tournaments isn't enough basis to consider ranking him higher than those guys? I don't get what he's supposed to do to be ranked above them then. Win the GSL?

Win a Premier tournament in 2012 at least(no lone star clash doesn't count.), or do better than them in the GSL. Currently there's no way Stephano deserves to be ranked above Leenock.


I'm not going to argue with putting Leenock above him, Leenock has played really well and proved himself against the toughest opponents.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
March 23 2012 16:32 GMT
#255
On March 24 2012 00:31 Panthae wrote:
Polt should be over Stephano imo.

Stephano beat him quite convincingly in the Lone Star Clash Finals a few days ago 5-2 (2-1 + 3-1), so I'm not so sure 'bout that.
Linoge
Profile Joined January 2011
Hungary115 Posts
March 23 2012 16:40 GMT
#256
wheres mvp wtf
EU; Linoge.240 ;
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 16:43:01
March 23 2012 16:42 GMT
#257
MVP lost his touch after being diagnosed with a serious condition. Very sad indeed..
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
March 23 2012 16:58 GMT
#258
GanZi top 8 for sure. You guys forgetting that he has a 65% winrate in international tournaments, and is kicking ass in TvP recently (6-1 in maps at MLG Winter).

I'm a power ranking hater because GanZi is my fav.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 23 2012 17:08 GMT
#259
I think Oz does deserve 4th place. He's been a consistent protoss at a time where others where doing horribly and he's continuing to kick ass no matter where he goes. If you look closely you'll see that he doesn't get beaten by people other than the very best... or HuK, in one PvP series. And even if he gets beaten, the games are close. ALive is similar but if I compare them, the way aLive was demolished by Genius makes me give a slight edge to Oz.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Lord_Maximus
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark46 Posts
March 23 2012 17:12 GMT
#260
On March 24 2012 01:40 Linoge wrote:
wheres mvp wtf

In Korea.
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