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Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
February 17 2012 01:56 GMT
#61
Hmmm... Genius is playing well but I don't think it means he's the best protoss player. He's just the winningest protoss at the moment. I think he has to show a little more potential or at least a championship before you can start taking contendership of "best protoss" away from people like MC and HerO =/
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 01:58:01
February 17 2012 01:57 GMT
#62
Genius the best Toss already? No, not even close. That's victory-day hype. MMA beating MVP in GSL October and the Blizzard Cup didn't instantly make him the best Terran. Genius is still going to have to at least win a championship to even have a claim to the title.

Go Alive! Deny team MVP a championship and I shall love you eternally!

Edit: I don't think HerO should be considered a contender at all. Yeah, I love TL, but HerO has never even made code S.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
February 17 2012 02:08 GMT
#63
genius drg finals. let it be done.
david0925
Profile Joined September 2010
212 Posts
February 17 2012 02:39 GMT
#64
I'm not going to jump the gun on claiming who the best Protoss is, but if we only judge by championships only MC has won a GSL, no?

I'd also like to know who has the most consistent Protoss performance aside from MC, since I'm not overly familiar with GSL statistics.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
February 17 2012 02:40 GMT
#65
On February 17 2012 08:06 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 07:52 Kharnage wrote:
On February 17 2012 07:44 lorkac wrote:
Has DRG payed the necessary toll to get to the top 4? The head of a former GSL champion?


Would you like a side of salad to go with your main, Head of NesTea?


The slayers of MMA, MVP, MC and Nestea fight it out eh?

Great quote!!!

I paused for a moment to think about it:
MMA - Alive
MVP - Gumiho
MC - Genius
Nestea - DRG
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
February 17 2012 02:42 GMT
#66
On February 17 2012 08:43 willyallthewei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 08:24 Kharnage wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:17 SiroKO wrote:
Protoss seems kind of hopeless against excellent Zerg such as Dongraegu and Stephano.
Once your gates/2 stargates/DT push are blocked, you're behind.
And if you don't do anything and try to safely take a third, you're behind as well.

Stephano himself believes that, given the current metagame, PvZ is a joke.
All eyes are on Genius now.
Hope he will find something which doesn't rely on the Zerg messing up his control or not anticipating a
timing push...


Genius says 'You're wrong'.

The part I hate most is that if crossfire is in the map pool then Protoss are one game down. I don't think I've seen P win a PvZ on crossfire.


Could someone please explain to me why Crossfire is in the GSL?

It has got to be one of the worst maps I've ever seen, in its history it has either favored Protoss when deathballs were popular, or was Terran dominated in PvZ, and now it is the anti protoss map with 1-1-1 and muta play dominating

It has never produced balanced games, even when Nestea and SC duked it out, it was just everyone wondering how Nestea could win on such a Terran favored map.

I'm very curious as to the opinion of someone who actually knows what they are talking about as to why Crossfire is not removed as an imba map.... It doesn't seem to be balanced at all....


Crossfire being a Terran favoured map in TvZ is a myth - it definitely favours Zerg.
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
February 17 2012 03:01 GMT
#67
aLive vs DongRaeGu season 1 code S finals!

I can feel it! COMMON aLive! You can do this! Hwaiting!

"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
yourdaylove
Profile Joined February 2012
1 Post
February 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#68
--- Nuked ---
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
February 17 2012 03:25 GMT
#69
MC D:
A time to live.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 17 2012 03:29 GMT
#70
On February 17 2012 07:48 SenorChang wrote:
The title of best current Protoss player is passed so quickly

Shouldnt MC has more money and more titles than all Korean protoss put together, think about that as you question whos president. But in sport of "what have you done for me lately" I can understand the genius bandwagon. He's playing fantastic.

Hoping for DRG though. IMO he plays practically perfect and perfectly abusive. As an MC fan I appreciate that.
MC for president
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 17 2012 04:17 GMT
#71
the best part was the fishuu art
Laplaces_imp
Profile Joined January 2012
368 Posts
February 17 2012 04:38 GMT
#72
As much as i respect DRG and Genious, i really wanted to see MVP_sC in the final four. At any rate, best of luck to them both. Looks like team MVP is sitting if a very good place to finally get a Code S trophy.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
February 17 2012 04:52 GMT
#73
most shocking 1/1 lb ever
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
February 17 2012 07:05 GMT
#74
If we are going to have a Genius vs DRG finals, I don't mind who wins, I only care if one of them are going to troll each other when it happens
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
February 17 2012 07:35 GMT
#75
Simply because Genius has a few good performances doesn't automatically make him the best protoss in the world, even temporarily. You're wrong, and you should apologize.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
February 17 2012 07:56 GMT
#76
Genius vs DRG would be such a terrible final. Genius is WAY overhyped atm
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33646 Posts
February 17 2012 08:48 GMT
#77
On February 17 2012 16:35 FlyingDike wrote:
Simply because Genius has a few good performances doesn't automatically make him the best protoss in the world, even temporarily. You're wrong, and you should apologize.


no!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 11:59:30
February 17 2012 11:48 GMT
#78
On February 17 2012 16:56 Scarecrow wrote:
Genius vs DRG would be such a terrible final. Genius is WAY overhyped atm

I don't think so. I put my hope in Sage and Genius to finally overcome MC's protoss presidency. Genius seems to have done it. The inaugural Blizzcon champion is back.

On the other hand, even Genius shouldn't be able to stop DRG in a longer match series. DongRaeGu wants the title. He needs it to break the kong line. He needs to prove all nay-sayers wrong.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
February 17 2012 12:40 GMT
#79
I want to see an aLive/Genius finals. But the only problem is, I'd want them both to win
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 17 2012 13:27 GMT
#80
Manner mule. So funny.

Ro8 was pretty bad.
TvT was coin flippy. MMA and Alive both played poor.
Genius rolled MC

Gumiho Puzzle and DRG Parting were good matches. But nothing special.
I had a good night of sleep.
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