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imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
February 09 2012 02:01 GMT
#101
I am going to kill myself tomorrow with lack of sleep, but I HAVE to see this group. So excited. DRG & Nestea fighting!
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
February 09 2012 02:20 GMT
#102
I think it's totally stupid, that Parting lost against MC. MC does nothing but executing, he never does never stuff or thinks about the game, simply executing. Parting on the other hand is such a smart player, reacting to what he sees and such. He just seems to be a little too greedy. (When your opponent allins PULL YOUR PROBES EARLIER game1). And sac the Nexus (game 2), though I have to say his micro was pretty impressive in game 2, he played so much better then MC T_T
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
zyrene
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines8 Posts
February 09 2012 02:44 GMT
#103
You cant win by just being smart you have to execute your plans as well. It may not require a heavy load of thinking with what MC did to Parting but MC being able to determine that he will have a great chance in winning with what he did against Parting is pretty smart to me.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 02:56:45
February 09 2012 02:56 GMT
#104
On February 09 2012 11:20 Greenei wrote:
I think it's totally stupid, that Parting lost against MC. MC does nothing but executing, he never does never stuff or thinks about the game, simply executing. Parting on the other hand is such a smart player, reacting to what he sees and such. He just seems to be a little too greedy. (When your opponent allins PULL YOUR PROBES EARLIER game1). And sac the Nexus (game 2), though I have to say his micro was pretty impressive in game 2, he played so much better then MC T_T

Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 09 2012 03:01 GMT
#105
On February 09 2012 11:56 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 11:20 Greenei wrote:
I think it's totally stupid, that Parting lost against MC. MC does nothing but executing, he never does never stuff or thinks about the game, simply executing. Parting on the other hand is such a smart player, reacting to what he sees and such. He just seems to be a little too greedy. (When your opponent allins PULL YOUR PROBES EARLIER game1). And sac the Nexus (game 2), though I have to say his micro was pretty impressive in game 2, he played so much better then MC T_T

Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better.

MC's basically the innovator of X-gate timings, lol.

Parting is ... interesting. Having just watched his vJjakji games, I have to say I think he's definitely a very intelligent player. His style's very refined, and he knows how to play it well. I'm intrigued to see what he'll bring to the table.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
February 09 2012 03:13 GMT
#106
On February 09 2012 11:56 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 11:20 Greenei wrote:
I think it's totally stupid, that Parting lost against MC. MC does nothing but executing, he never does never stuff or thinks about the game, simply executing. Parting on the other hand is such a smart player, reacting to what he sees and such. He just seems to be a little too greedy. (When your opponent allins PULL YOUR PROBES EARLIER game1). And sac the Nexus (game 2), though I have to say his micro was pretty impressive in game 2, he played so much better then MC T_T

Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better.


I didn't say, that MC is stealing builds or that he doesn't create new timings. I'm saying, that MC pretty much always goes into a game with the mindset of killing the opponent at minute x no matter what he does. In every single game he did a 1 or 2base timingattack.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
February 09 2012 03:14 GMT
#107
I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but in the summary it says "watch these games!"

Where can I watch these games?
TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
February 09 2012 03:29 GMT
#108
Nestea and Genius to advance plox.

Genius: Just like old times eh Nestea?
Nestea: Aye.
"The wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king.||"What do you say to god of gg? NOT TODAY" -John the Translator. "Give me Command" -Yellow.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
February 09 2012 03:30 GMT
#109
omigod GSL is SO good!

I want Nestea or DRG to win so Parting can beat them and solidify his new protoss godliness. If Parting keeps winning I'm switching to toss and using his builds.
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
February 09 2012 04:02 GMT
#110
On February 09 2012 12:13 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 11:56 Olinimm wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 Greenei wrote:
I think it's totally stupid, that Parting lost against MC. MC does nothing but executing, he never does never stuff or thinks about the game, simply executing. Parting on the other hand is such a smart player, reacting to what he sees and such. He just seems to be a little too greedy. (When your opponent allins PULL YOUR PROBES EARLIER game1). And sac the Nexus (game 2), though I have to say his micro was pretty impressive in game 2, he played so much better then MC T_T

Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better.


I didn't say, that MC is stealing builds or that he doesn't create new timings. I'm saying, that MC pretty much always goes into a game with the mindset of killing the opponent at minute x no matter what he does. In every single game he did a 1 or 2base timingattack.


I think the general feeling about most people is not that he sets minute x to kill them, but rather he sees the opponent's build and decides the best time to kill them.

In fact, I think you could argue he has a much greater understanding of SC than most. He not only plays near perfect at his style, but he knows the weaknesses of most builds he plays and exploits that weakness to its maximum potential. He knows when they will be susceptible and attacks with almost all-in agression in great timings. It isn't necessarily the most fun to watch, but you cannot argue it isn't successful.
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
February 09 2012 04:38 GMT
#111
On February 09 2012 09:44 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 09:03 Duravi wrote:
I think people need to consider the whole picture when looking at MC's games. The way he opened against Ganzi both games could have transitioned into longer games. Instead, he saw some weakness, and decided to pull the trigger, and when it comes to trigger pulling MC is the best in the business. In neither game could I see anything that indicated he wanted to all-in from the get go, I could be wrong. MC lives and dies on the quality of the reads he makes in game, and as of late they have been spot on. It is a different style then the traditional "safe" play many western pros seem to judge as the best way to play, and MC is often judged poorly because of it, but it works.

Yeah, it's true. But let's say he sees weakness in 95% of his games xD But it's possible he doesn't plan for it, he's notoriously good at knowing when to be aggressive.


I tend to agree, I wonder how much of the decision to go with that bust in was preplanned and how much due to Ganzi donating ~10 marines when MC expanded. My impression is that MC first decides to see if he can bust or not, then decides to go for the long game.

After all, his micro was good enough to kill Ganzi in G2 with a pressure build, so he hardly has to go fully all-in to exploit any weakness he sees. Kind of reminds me of how good Alicia was back in his prime (knocking MVP down to Code A with a 3-gate expand specifically).

MC also, is very, very confident in his micro/control and more than wililng to go all out with attacks that he shouldn't be able to win. That's a failing, which I think is common in Protoss and encouraged by the fact that good/bad FF can swing a battle so drastically. It makes it so hard for players to make those split second fight/flight evaluations, and more often than not their confidence just shines though and they fight (like Oz vs MMA, I can FF this! oh wait, that's too big, crap).

This is similar to when *every* TvT opened with each player trying to outmicro the other with a banshee harass, so maybe it's more of a pro-gamer trait.
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
February 09 2012 05:26 GMT
#112
i know you want Nestea to advance.
just dont keep cursing the ppl
shoule make uncertain predictions
Incredible Miracle
theRayeGun
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore12 Posts
February 09 2012 05:39 GMT
#113
I want to see everyone advance. GAWD WHY IS TODAY'S GROUP SO GOOD?
theRayeGun
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore12 Posts
February 09 2012 05:42 GMT
#114
On February 09 2012 12:14 opsayo wrote:
I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but in the summary it says "watch these games!"

Where can I watch these games?


GOMTV.net you need to have the season ticket to watch the vods though.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 09 2012 05:42 GMT
#115
On February 09 2012 12:13 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 11:56 Olinimm wrote:
On February 09 2012 11:20 Greenei wrote:
I think it's totally stupid, that Parting lost against MC. MC does nothing but executing, he never does never stuff or thinks about the game, simply executing. Parting on the other hand is such a smart player, reacting to what he sees and such. He just seems to be a little too greedy. (When your opponent allins PULL YOUR PROBES EARLIER game1). And sac the Nexus (game 2), though I have to say his micro was pretty impressive in game 2, he played so much better then MC T_T

Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better.


I didn't say, that MC is stealing builds or that he doesn't create new timings. I'm saying, that MC pretty much always goes into a game with the mindset of killing the opponent at minute x no matter what he does. In every single game he did a 1 or 2base timingattack.

Yeah but he played just 4 games, and 2 were PvPs. Parting did timing attacks too, he just lost so he had the chance to play more games. You guys are acting as if MC never plays a macro game or innovated anything that isn't a timing attack and it's not true.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
February 09 2012 06:13 GMT
#116
fionn has spoken. expect nestea and genius to advance
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
February 09 2012 06:55 GMT
#117
Should be some great matches, can't wait.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 07:21:06
February 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#118
If Nestea and MKP play each other in this group, I predict MKP winning. Nestea's late game has not impressed me for a while now.

e: I also have to wake up at 6:30 am tomorrow, and these games don't start till 2 my time. Damn you, GOM.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
February 09 2012 07:10 GMT
#119
All this MC hate lol. If you know you can win early, why not? Macro games? He already destroyed Bomber with it. Maybe when he faces MMA you will see a macro game. Either way, if he wins a game early cue all the omg MC on all ins QQ, and when he wins long macro games cue the omg Protoss imba.

No one is ever satisfied with MC apart from his fans lol. Don't blame MC if the opponent can't last.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 09 2012 07:32 GMT
#120
I hope for DRG and Nestea to advance, there need to be some zergs in ro8 so it is less boring.

If not both then I want neither, about time zerg start whining their way to buffs like protoss did :D
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