EPT[GSL] Code S RO16 - Death Approaches - Page 6
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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zyrene
Philippines8 Posts
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On February 09 2012 11:20 Greenei wrote: I think it's totally stupid, that Parting lost against MC. MC does nothing but executing, he never does never stuff or thinks about the game, simply executing. Parting on the other hand is such a smart player, reacting to what he sees and such. He just seems to be a little too greedy. (When your opponent allins PULL YOUR PROBES EARLIER game1). And sac the Nexus (game 2), though I have to say his micro was pretty impressive in game 2, he played so much better then MC T_T Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On February 09 2012 11:56 Olinimm wrote: Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better. MC's basically the innovator of X-gate timings, lol. Parting is ... interesting. Having just watched his vJjakji games, I have to say I think he's definitely a very intelligent player. His style's very refined, and he knows how to play it well. I'm intrigued to see what he'll bring to the table. | ||
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
On February 09 2012 11:56 Olinimm wrote: Umm, bullcrap. MC is the protoss that has innovated and popularized more Protoss strategies than anyone. Plus, MC is the one who reacted, Parting is the one who decided to take a risk an expand in PvP. He even had the superior build, and still lost. Yup that's definitely playing better. I didn't say, that MC is stealing builds or that he doesn't create new timings. I'm saying, that MC pretty much always goes into a game with the mindset of killing the opponent at minute x no matter what he does. In every single game he did a 1 or 2base timingattack. | ||
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opsayo
591 Posts
Where can I watch these games? | ||
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TheRealFluid
United States501 Posts
Genius: Just like old times eh Nestea? Nestea: Aye. | ||
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
I want Nestea or DRG to win so Parting can beat them and solidify his new protoss godliness. If Parting keeps winning I'm switching to toss and using his builds. | ||
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
On February 09 2012 12:13 Greenei wrote: I didn't say, that MC is stealing builds or that he doesn't create new timings. I'm saying, that MC pretty much always goes into a game with the mindset of killing the opponent at minute x no matter what he does. In every single game he did a 1 or 2base timingattack. I think the general feeling about most people is not that he sets minute x to kill them, but rather he sees the opponent's build and decides the best time to kill them. In fact, I think you could argue he has a much greater understanding of SC than most. He not only plays near perfect at his style, but he knows the weaknesses of most builds he plays and exploits that weakness to its maximum potential. He knows when they will be susceptible and attacks with almost all-in agression in great timings. It isn't necessarily the most fun to watch, but you cannot argue it isn't successful. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On February 09 2012 09:44 MrCon wrote: Yeah, it's true. But let's say he sees weakness in 95% of his games xD But it's possible he doesn't plan for it, he's notoriously good at knowing when to be aggressive. I tend to agree, I wonder how much of the decision to go with that bust in was preplanned and how much due to Ganzi donating ~10 marines when MC expanded. My impression is that MC first decides to see if he can bust or not, then decides to go for the long game. After all, his micro was good enough to kill Ganzi in G2 with a pressure build, so he hardly has to go fully all-in to exploit any weakness he sees. Kind of reminds me of how good Alicia was back in his prime (knocking MVP down to Code A with a 3-gate expand specifically). MC also, is very, very confident in his micro/control and more than wililng to go all out with attacks that he shouldn't be able to win. That's a failing, which I think is common in Protoss and encouraged by the fact that good/bad FF can swing a battle so drastically. It makes it so hard for players to make those split second fight/flight evaluations, and more often than not their confidence just shines though and they fight (like Oz vs MMA, I can FF this! oh wait, that's too big, crap). This is similar to when *every* TvT opened with each player trying to outmicro the other with a banshee harass, so maybe it's more of a pro-gamer trait. | ||
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
just dont keep cursing the ppl shoule make uncertain predictions | ||
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theRayeGun
Singapore12 Posts
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theRayeGun
Singapore12 Posts
On February 09 2012 12:14 opsayo wrote: I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but in the summary it says "watch these games!" Where can I watch these games? GOMTV.net you need to have the season ticket to watch the vods though. | ||
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On February 09 2012 12:13 Greenei wrote: I didn't say, that MC is stealing builds or that he doesn't create new timings. I'm saying, that MC pretty much always goes into a game with the mindset of killing the opponent at minute x no matter what he does. In every single game he did a 1 or 2base timingattack. Yeah but he played just 4 games, and 2 were PvPs. Parting did timing attacks too, he just lost so he had the chance to play more games. You guys are acting as if MC never plays a macro game or innovated anything that isn't a timing attack and it's not true. | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
e: I also have to wake up at 6:30 am tomorrow, and these games don't start till 2 my time. Damn you, GOM. | ||
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power-overwhelming
Canada306 Posts
No one is ever satisfied with MC apart from his fans lol. Don't blame MC if the opponent can't last. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
If not both then I want neither, about time zerg start whining their way to buffs like protoss did :D | ||
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