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I agree with all the changes mentioned above and I understand why those changed need to be made
Thanks TL! You're the best! Looking for the more cooler changes in the site in the future!
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JaBrOnI
Philippines59 Posts
I agree with all the changes mentioned above and I understand why those changed need to be made Thanks TL! You're the best! Looking for the more cooler changes in the site in the future! | ||
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SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Regarding ProTechs stream: The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech. Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. ProTech has one of the most unique streams on TL, mostly because he's the only one that streams high level 2v2 but I thought that kind of exposure was good for both him and TL. There are plenty of people on TL who enjoy 2v2 and it seemed that his average stream count continued to slowly climb. (~400 before he was removed) As far as his contribution outside of his stream he's done a good job pointing out hackers in SC2, mostly notably Sorcery. Just take a second and look some of these posts. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666¤tpage=2#23 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200545 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201118 Notoriety... Well he's widely regarded as the best 2v2 player in the world. He's won PTSL S2 over teams like Destiny + Minigun, AxSlav + Strifecro, Inori + GuMiho and some others. The results are lacking only because of the lack of 2v2 tournaments but when you take into consideration the limited amount compared to his results and the fact that he's remained #1 in world on Sc2ranks.com for 2v2 for the past few seasons it really puts it into perspective I think. StarCraft 2 Season 1 Rankings: #1 2v2 Random Team (Global) [haCkProTech] #1 2v2 Arranged Team (NA) [haCkProTech & Power] #2 2v2 Arranged Team (Global) [haCkProTech & Power] StarCraft 2 Season 2 Rankings: #1 2v2 Random Team (Global) [haCkProTech] #2 2v2 Random Team (Global) [Catalyst] #5 2v2 Random Team (EU) [untamed] #3 2v2 Arranged Team (NA) [haCkProTech & Power] And he's currently 1st place 2v2 Random team right now. http://sc2ranks.com/ranks/am/master/2R On top of all this he streams more than most people and is mic'd. I understand if you want to keep the same guidelines throughout all streamers but if TL had a 2v2 featured stream section he would undoubtedly be the first person to be added. | ||
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CycoDude
United States326 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
Hopefully, the following will happen soon, then there's no more need for such discussion anymore: On November 01 2011 18:21 heyoka wrote: This is something we would like to add but its a little more complex to enable, so it was pushed off the list for this update. Hopefully it will happen soon. | ||
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Innovation
United States284 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 03:21 eNtitY~ wrote: ProTech has one of the most unique streams on TL, mostly because he's the only one that streams high level 2v2 but I thought that kind of exposure was good for both him and TL. There are plenty of people on TL who enjoy 2v2 and it seemed that his average stream count continued to slowly climb. (~400 before he was removed) As far as his contribution outside of his stream he's done a good job pointing out hackers in SC2, mostly notably Sorcery. Just take a second and look some of these posts. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666¤tpage=2#23 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200545 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201118 Notoriety... Well he's widely regarded as the best 2v2 player in the world. He's won PTSL S2 over teams like Destiny + Minigun, AxSlav + Strifecro, Inori + GuMiho and some others. The results are lacking only because of the lack of 2v2 tournaments but when you take into consideration the limited amount compared to his results and the fact that he's remained #1 in world on Sc2ranks.com for 2v2 for the past few seasons it really puts it into perspective I think. StarCraft 2 Season 1 Rankings: #1 2v2 Random Team (Global) [haCkProTech] #1 2v2 Arranged Team (NA) [haCkProTech & Power] #2 2v2 Arranged Team (Global) [haCkProTech & Power] StarCraft 2 Season 2 Rankings: #1 2v2 Random Team (Global) [haCkProTech] #2 2v2 Random Team (Global) [Catalyst] #5 2v2 Random Team (EU) [untamed] #3 2v2 Arranged Team (NA) [haCkProTech & Power] And he's currently 1st place 2v2 Random team right now. http://sc2ranks.com/ranks/am/master/2R On top of all this he streams more than most people and is mic'd. I understand if you don't want to keep the same guidelines throughout all streamers but if TL has 2v2 featured stream section he would undoubtedly be the first person to be added. Damn son, powerful writeup.  | ||
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Zidane
United States1692 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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bro_fenix
United States132 Posts
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xiver
Serbia18 Posts
I really think you should reconsider, because there is a lot more positive then negative feedback, and those bitter guys are only proving how good he is (they are watching his stream, obviously, since they know so much about it). Moral nazis should take a good look at the mirror before starting to bash someone who doesn't deserve it. Good site changes BTW | ||
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Bleb
Croatia278 Posts
I didn't even need to get used to them, they feel so natural. now that you've spoiled me I feel obligated to ask for me ; ) what I'd like to see is "personalised featured"... I like to watch few unfeatured stream and it's annoying to look for them everytime I log. Is there a way for me to make them appear featured? just for my profile not TL in general. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On November 02 2011 20:42 NathanEO wrote: Yeah I don't like flash (not because of appearance), but what's just as bad, if not worse, is javascript. I could care less that the banners don't look nice on the website — In fact I don't even think that they look bad. I do not like any 3rd-party javascript running on my computer. As far as I know, Google uses all sorts of tracking, which they can even associate with your google account so that it's not "anonymous" information — I don't like that. Other agencies do the same thing (bugs), except at least it's "anonymous" due to them not having accounts for services.I have been using Firefox with Adblock for many years now. Whenever I sit at a computer without Adblock I realize how annoying the internet really is. In the past I gladly made an exception in blocking ads on TL. The old ads were usually unobtrusive, even fun at times. After the changes my browser turned back into a disco with lots of blinky super-annoying stuff. Sorry but this means adjusting Adblock to turn off flash shit. Also I do not like the banner placement on the frontpage. My web developer senses tickle in a negative way. No tickling on the subpages though. I use noscript, which happens to block javascript (and objects) from things like Google and doubleclick and quantserve, which disables the ads. If the advertisements were just images hosted by the 3rd party, then noscript would not be blocking these ads. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 03 2011 03:21 eNtitY~ wrote: Notoriety... Well he's widely regarded as the best 2v2 player in the world. ummm, who regards him as the best 2v2 player in the world? what a joke. korean 2v2 teams would roflstomp protech; they are the cheesemasters. protech's american cheese aint shit compared to their gouda. =) | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
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snejstorm
Germany52 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:41 dAPhREAk wrote: ummm, who regards him as the best 2v2 player in the world? what a joke. korean 2v2 teams would roflstomp protech; they are the cheesemasters. protech's american cheese aint shit compared to their gouda. =) I don't even know a good Korean 2v2 team and so far Team PowerTech is the best 2v2 team of NA and EU. Proof? -> First place PTSL S2. Yes, sir! And ProTech is undisputed "at least" one of the best if not "the best" 2v2 RT players plus the only one streaming regularly/daily. Thanks for reading. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 03 2011 06:08 snejstorm wrote: I don't even know a good Korean 2v2 team and so far Team PowerTech is the best 2v2 team of NA and EU. Proof? -> First place PTSL S2. Yes, sir! And ProTech is undisputed "at least" one of the best if not "the best" 2v2 RT players plus the only one streaming regularly/daily. Thanks for reading. highest on ladder does not equal best (nor is he even the highest on the ladder this season); nor does one tournament win make you the best (he wasn't first in PTSL season 1 so technically under your logic the teams that placed higher than him in that season would be better than him). you are correct that he is the only one streaming regularly/daily, so i will give you that. | ||
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xiver
Serbia18 Posts
On November 03 2011 06:15 dAPhREAk wrote: highest on ladder does not equal best (nor is he even the highest on the ladder this season); nor does one tournament win make you the best (he wasn't first in PTSL season 1 so technically under your logic the teams that placed higher than him in that season would be better than him). you are correct that he is the only one streaming regularly/daily, so i will give you that. get a life and leave man alone, he is done more than you for community... go watch some religious channel you fake moralist User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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snejstorm
Germany52 Posts
On what criteria do you base your statement, "ProTech is not the best 2v2 player - he would get roflstomped by Koreans" ? There is nothing like MLG or GSL for 2v2 so you have to judge based on given criteria. Here, at least from my point of view, the only available criteria is PTSL1 #4th, PTSL2 #1st place and many high placements on ladder. Or what else can I take into consideration? | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 03 2011 06:23 xiver wrote: get a life and leave man alone, he is done more than you for community... go watch some religious channel you fake moralist very well stated. i guess i was wrong to question you. On November 03 2011 06:25 snejstorm wrote: I never equated "highest on ladder" with "best of the world". If you think so, please read my post again. On what criteria do you base your statement, "ProTech is not the best 2v2 player - he would get roflstomped by Koreans" ? There is nothing like MLG or GSL for 2v2 so you have to judge based on given criteria. Here, at least from my point of view, the only available criteria is PTSL1 #4th, PTSL2 #1st place and many high placements on ladder. Or what else can I take into consideration? your "best of the world" was based on his ptsl win and ladder ranking. considering the ladder is the only thing that relates to the "world," i think its a fair assumption that is what you are basing best in the world on. how else would you compare him to people who didnt participate in ptsl? i based my korean statement on my own bias that korean 2v2 teams are awesome. no better or worse than any of the statements i have seen concerning protech. ptsl is not the only 2v2 tournament. there are ESL 2v2 tournaments and the z33k tournaments. why are you ignoring those? the z33k tournament is weekly. | ||
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