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On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream:
The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.
Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.
All those complaints come from like 4 people who repeatedly post the same thing in 2-3 different topics. Hell, they even go as far as to nonstop trash his User Stream thread constantly just for the sake of trashing/trolling, which puts off a lot of people. (would love to see it modded, tbh)
As far as results, there's been 2 major 2v2 Tournaments, of which he has won half/one of them, so I'd say that's fairly significant. There's the z33k weekly, but that's a monetary issue afaik.
2v2 doesn't get near the amount of exposure of 1v1, so pulling 300+ people almost all day every day is pretty high, which is about as much as the z33k weekly gets.
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On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream:
The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.
Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.
As someone who actually watches his stream consistently, I have to say that the complaints about his behaviour are either unfounded, exaggerated, or reflect some sort of bias against him. His behaviour is no worse than many other streamers (destiny, idra). If you dont feel his contributions to the 2v2 landscape warrant a featured stream, that is unfortunate.
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On November 02 2011 13:02 Kavdragon wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NyBUB.png) Will the buttons at the top be re-sized so that they fit the wider format? I don't see why they need to fit the entire width of the page — WTF is the point? That could also only be done if the webpage is fixed-width, which it happens to be now, but it really shouldn't be. People should be able to choose their own width of the webpage based off the window size they choose for their browser.
For me the buttons are already too wide. It causes them to push the search bar to the next line because I have a minimum font size set. At least it's not as bad as it was before though, where I think even 1 button may have been pushed to the next line.
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On November 02 2011 15:25 Peas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream:
The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.
Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. As someone who actually watches his stream consistently, I have to say that the complaints about his behaviour are either unfounded, exaggerated, or reflect some sort of bias against him. His behaviour is no worse than many other streamers (destiny, idra). If you dont feel his contributions to the 2v2 landscape warrant a featured stream, that is unfortunate.
They are ridiculously exaggerated. If they were only slightly so, then it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But "EVERY TIME he loses, he does this/that bm/accusation" and so on.
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Finally some good news. Calender was really ugly place... Now it's empty. yay
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On November 02 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:- Re-featured iNkA. His numbers were decent and after running the latest October numbers it is enough to justify a spot in featured.
Grats to him. 
On November 02 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
[*]We're keep Attero, sYz, optikzero and ViBE defeatured for November but we will give them a trial month of featured status in December to prove that they can make it work (numbers). If you're a fan of these guys please show them your support by watching.
Will definitely support Attero and Vibe in December to help them out.
On November 02 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
[*]We've gone over ProTech again and decided against featuring him, again.
Good choice.
On November 02 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
[*]We looked at putting the race logos on the left but it doesn't look good. Main issue is that these logos weren't designed to look of similar size when small, so being aligned looks bad. They will stay on the right.
Oh that's too bad. They don't look bad on the right, so no biggie.
On November 02 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
[*]Trump, Takesen, TotalBiscuit all added to Others
yay!
yay!
yay!
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Love the new layout, minus the new ad where poll basically used to be, but you do what you gotta do
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This is a bit weird on the laptop but is a great change on my desktop.
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Out of a more curiosity question how many viewers are you guys looking for mainly? For some of the people you guys de-featured whenever I saw them stream they always seemed to have 100+ viewers constantly so that obviously is not enough. Are you looking for guys who get 170+ viewers or what? This is again just a curiosity as I am curious on what TL counts as a lot of viewers to qualify.
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Might expain why the site was down for maintanance a few days ago.
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Why you defeature Phoenix and Cloud is still featured. I like Cloud but he doesnt win anything at the moment and you guys will only archieve that famous people stay famous and unfamous people that win sometimes Go4Sc2 will be unknown forever...
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On November 02 2011 15:25 Peas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream:
The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.
Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. As someone who actually watches his stream consistently, I have to say that the complaints about his behaviour are either unfounded, exaggerated, or reflect some sort of bias against him. His behaviour is no worse than many other streamers (destiny, idra). If you dont feel his contributions to the 2v2 landscape warrant a featured stream, that is unfortunate.
Yeah, I agree, as is obvious when you take a look at the filth in his user stream. It's the same complainers. But let's not give up, I think this decision cannot be final, but I've switched to PM's.
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YES, YES!!!!
Something I've wanted for a long time, the ability to sort streams based on game then name!
Now I can easily open all the people playing certain games. A smorgasbord of content!
Just a question, can we get separate game tags on streams for HON? I asked R1ch about it earlier and was told it was something that is being looked into. I know really specific stuff like MW3 or BF3 would be pushing it, but HON seems fairly popular, enough to distinguish it from LoL streams. If not, no big deal (again the sorting is nice).
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love it. only TL can change something perfect to more perfect 
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Here is a lot of disinformation about ProTech's channel. Many people who posted stuff about him have a personal vendetta with him. Like Azide, Mannerchomp and many more. They are just as bad or worse than they say ProTech would be.
Sadly, you already decided against ProTech.
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The only thing I don't like is Elly giving me a false guilt trip about ad block just because it takes 5 seconds to load a flash ad.
Crying elephant false positive!
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Dakota_Fanning
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Awesome job with the wider layout! It was long needed.
And on a side note: I saw Protech's stream mentioned. I root for him if my words count something. I know him from the SC-BW age, and he was and is an extremely skilled player his mind set to team games. If we want team games to evolve, his stream is a good source. He might not be the most good mannered or well known player, but he certainly brings enough to the table to be noted.
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its sad to hear that the only good 2v2 player with a very active stream wont be longer featured, disappointed in TL on this one 
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Great work, much appreciated!
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