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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 02 2011 11:55 GMT
#61
read most of it, thanks for the article ^-^
ace hwaiting!!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 11:57:50
September 02 2011 11:55 GMT
#62
On September 02 2011 17:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 15:41 baubo wrote:
On September 02 2011 15:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I absolutely love Kwark's analysis. I absolutely hate Riptide's single minded view of the most aggressive player in broodwar by calling him boring -- and that's when I realized he's a REALLY good troll.


...
...
...

I've got nothing.


Flash's success is primarily due to him making fifty bajillion timing attacks. It's like people haven't realized that 80% of his games are him doing a timing push or something. He had a short stint in late 08 to early 09 where all he would do was turtle and it didn't work as much as he wanted, and has since over the past 2 years been incredibly aggressive. I might should clarify by saying he's the most aggressive terran around, and one of the most aggressive gamers overall (You might chalk Bisu up to being more aggressive since he gets to play pvp instead of tvt, etc).

Basically you'd have to have not watched Flash play TvZ and TvP for the past couple of years to think he's a turtle.


"Aggressive" is a mindset. It's the idea that you always pressure your opponent to keep him in a defensive stance. To keep him off keel. To keep him in a reactionary state because it's much harder to defend than to attack.

This is not Flash's normal mindset. And if you watch BW in general instead of just Flash games, you'd see these things. In fact, Flash's style is generally a defensive/counterattack style.

Obviously he uses timing attack. You know what? So does 100% of other professional BW players. The whole game rely heavily on timing. The reason why Flash succeeds in his attacks in manners other terrans fail isn't because he's more aggressive. It's because he's better. Similar to how an iccup A player can do the same stuff a B player can do and win more because he's simply a superior player.
Meh
thanhbao86
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada199 Posts
September 02 2011 12:24 GMT
#63
BW staffs never disappoint.Great write-up.
Fat Dragoon
Holy Check
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Romania155 Posts
September 02 2011 12:31 GMT
#64
On September 02 2011 20:23 J1.au wrote:
Hmm, I wonder who you are...


Isn't it obvious from my post? I'm Boxer. And I'm jealous Flash has been doing so well while I had to switch to SC2.
Trololol.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
September 02 2011 12:52 GMT
#65
Anaylsis
Anaylsis
Anaylsis


Typos~
#TeamBuLba
TG_Lelouch
Profile Joined August 2011
United States134 Posts
September 02 2011 13:16 GMT
#66
Great write up on how Jangbi smash flash in the face >
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
September 02 2011 13:19 GMT
#67
The moment finally came, and the Terran tank line came to life and pushed forwards


Really liked this line Kwark ^

As much as I like Flash, I like seeing him lose even more ;p

Goo Jangbi
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
September 02 2011 13:34 GMT
#68
Really nice read. Keep it up. (you will anyways but i wanted to encourage you :-P)
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
September 02 2011 14:28 GMT
#69
Great read, interesting as always.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
September 02 2011 15:01 GMT
#70
On September 02 2011 18:41 Holy Check wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 13:34 Waxangel wrote:
Lee Young Ho.

Do you remember when this guy was a cheesy KT newbie who could only do <a href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/10263_BoxeR_vs_Flash/vod">dumb stuff like this</a>?

Not many of you do, but the player he evolved into over time makes me almost wish he stayed that way. Flash, in essence, killed Broodwar. No, I'm not talking about <a href="http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=258396#1">conspiracy theories</a>. Flash destroyed Broodwar with the 14cc/1rax FE. This is not to say that he pioneered those builds. Oh, no, nothing as ground breaking as that. He just used them <strike>ad infinitum</strike> ad nauseam, and in the process squeezed any semblance of beauty, creativity and grace from all Terran matchups.



That's exactly what separates Flash from the other bonjwas. Bonjwa isn't a cold-hearted term which stands for dominance, it's something that comes as much from the heart as it comes from the brain.

Boxer took a boring defensive race and made it dynamic, aggressive, innovative, beautiful. Some might say he is responsible for the birth of competitive Starcraft. Flash took a boring defensive race and made it more boring, more defensive and more predictable. Some might say he is responsible for the downfall of competitive Starcraft.


I went and watched the Flash games, and it did a very good job of reminding me why I liked BW better before he rose to dominance </hipster>. If you plant your wheat seeds at the start of a Flash game, you can have a sandwich for when he moves out.

So, yeah, JangBi earned a fan. Anyone who beats Flash is saving BW. Even if they beat Flash at something else.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
September 02 2011 15:14 GMT
#71
Love the join dates of people preferring BW pre-Flash!
arcfyr
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada121 Posts
September 02 2011 15:15 GMT
#72
Multiple Jangbangs incoming.

Awesome articles as always. The quality is superb!
GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
September 02 2011 15:25 GMT
#73
i soooooo want jangbi to win the osl. plzzzz
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
September 02 2011 15:31 GMT
#74
Oh God I died laughing at the bonjwa build order. Very nice writeup!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11818 Posts
September 02 2011 15:52 GMT
#75

JangBi, you’ve shattered everyone’s expectations by getting this far at all, but the hardest part of your journey is yet ahead of you (Editor’s note: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA).

So brilliant. ^^ Thanks for another nice news post.
Holy Check
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Romania155 Posts
September 02 2011 15:59 GMT
#76
On September 03 2011 00:14 J1.au wrote:
Love the join dates of people preferring BW pre-Flash!


Love Flash fanboys being Flash fanboys.
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
September 02 2011 16:10 GMT
#77
jangbi needs to call up bisu for pvz tips. Out of bisu, stork, kal...jangbi is the last protoss hope, god help us all
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 16:17:04
September 02 2011 16:16 GMT
#78
On September 03 2011 00:14 J1.au wrote:
Love the join dates of people preferring BW pre-Flash!

Not everyone's enjoyment of the BW scene directly lines up with the date they joined, though. :|

JANGBI. FUCK. YES. Please make me wrong in my complete and utter loss of hope for you, please. I've not wanted to be wrong more in a LONG time.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
September 02 2011 16:35 GMT
#79
Nice article... I love you all.

And Jangbi you are da best... fucking amazing and PLS... PPPPPPLLLLLLSSSSS rape that Soo guy.
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
September 02 2011 16:37 GMT
#80
Sad that Flash wont get to win his 7th starleague but happy to see a protoss finally doing well
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
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