• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:53
CEST 03:53
KST 10:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)54Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Grand Finals SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ] ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Fantasy returning? BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7484 users

[NASL] Grand Finals Preview / Playoffs Recap - Page 11

Forum Index > News
248 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 08 2011 16:45 GMT
#201
Great write up :D
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
July 08 2011 17:11 GMT
#202
big shit is coming :D go foreigners!
xd
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 08 2011 17:12 GMT
#203
On July 08 2011 13:04 confusedcrib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 12:53 twndomn wrote:
I dislike the person who makes reference to Zenio vs Idra. Idra is simply an inappropriate reference to draw from. A win is a win, macro or 10 pool or 6 pool matters not. Idra did that to Sen and won that game, though lost the series. Please don't play the what-if-xyz-scouted game. Cheese is legi., regardless you like it or not.

Sen also did a Muta play against Zenio but Zenio's lone infestor missed the only available fungal and lost the game as a result. You can dislike a player's method of using certain unit, but that does not mean that player's wrong for that instance. As long as he wins, that's all that matters.


I never say Zenio is a bad player at all in the write up. All I said is that he "He took a lot of risks and relied on surprise tactics for almost every ZvZ. I wouldn't expect him to beat Sen in the grand finals." but apparently that means that I think he is a terrible player :/


Don't worry, people who understand ZvZ know why you have your opinion ^^
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
July 08 2011 17:22 GMT
#204
Shit just got real.
Kyouya
Profile Joined January 2008
Mexico318 Posts
July 08 2011 18:00 GMT
#205
the Koreans may have faced some disadvantages such as playing their games at 4am through unpredictable latency conditions

OMG lolwat

C'mon Boxer you got this!!!
Strike First, Strike Hard, Show No Mercy.
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
July 08 2011 18:36 GMT
#206
This should be a great event, I admit I didn't really follow the NASL at all but with this being a huge LAN+big prize money+Tastosis, NASL is really stepping up.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
July 08 2011 20:25 GMT
#207
So...how 'bout those finals, eh?

Pros:
+ Show Spoiler +
Huge Venue
Huge Audience
Great Casters
Great Players


Cons:
+ Show Spoiler +
Production Quality
Sound Quality
Camera Quality
Quality in general
Lack of Preparation
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
July 08 2011 20:39 GMT
#208
NASL FAILED HARD.

People MUST understand that if you ask money for a service you have to deliver the service. I, as a client, don't have to be happy just because I get to see StarCraft2 games.

So, a to do list for future events:

- don't start an event 2 hours late
- don't start an event 2 hours late AND ignore the 35k of people like nothing is happening.
- check the whole system and make sure it works.
- AUDIO IS VERY IMPORTANT
- commentators must be heard
- don't make 10 minutes long intros
- PREPARE FOR INTERVIEWS
- focus the camers and don't move them
- don't be aggressive with upset clients. THEY HAVE RIGHTS!


The list can go on. NASL has disappointed me. I don't want to tolerate anything. I want progress so I give feedback. With so many tournaments out there the competition gets higher and higher. Pump up the quality.

And people, remember, when you pay 25$ to see Transformers 3 on IMAX, a 300 million dollars movie, they never make you wait, they never have problems. This is business. You give money we give you service/products.

This post is meant to be useful, not for trolling. I am not hating, I am helping.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
ziomek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland18 Posts
July 08 2011 20:58 GMT
#209
nice games coming:D
Bucht
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden7 Posts
July 08 2011 21:37 GMT
#210
On July 09 2011 05:39 ceaRshaf wrote:
NASL FAILED HARD.

People MUST understand that if you ask money for a service you have to deliver the service. I, as a client, don't have to be happy just because I get to see StarCraft2 games.

So, a to do list for future events:

- don't start an event 2 hours late
- don't start an event 2 hours late AND ignore the 35k of people like nothing is happening.
- check the whole system and make sure it works.
- AUDIO IS VERY IMPORTANT
- commentators must be heard
- don't make 10 minutes long intros
- PREPARE FOR INTERVIEWS
- focus the camers and don't move them
- don't be aggressive with upset clients. THEY HAVE RIGHTS!


The list can go on. NASL has disappointed me. I don't want to tolerate anything. I want progress so I give feedback. With so many tournaments out there the competition gets higher and higher. Pump up the quality.

And people, remember, when you pay 25$ to see Transformers 3 on IMAX, a 300 million dollars movie, they never make you wait, they never have problems. This is business. You give money we give you service/products.

This post is meant to be useful, not for trolling. I am not hating, I am helping.

Kinda agree with your points, except for the likeness to Transformers. Movies by Michael Bay is not a good example of money well spent.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
July 08 2011 21:52 GMT
#211
morrow the desinfected terran
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Stil
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
July 08 2011 22:45 GMT
#212
On July 09 2011 05:39 ceaRshaf wrote:
NASL FAILED HARD.

People MUST understand that if you ask money for a service you have to deliver the service. I, as a client, don't have to be happy just because I get to see StarCraft2 games.

So, a to do list for future events:

- don't start an event 2 hours late
- don't start an event 2 hours late AND ignore the 35k of people like nothing is happening.
- check the whole system and make sure it works.
- AUDIO IS VERY IMPORTANT
- commentators must be heard
- don't make 10 minutes long intros
- PREPARE FOR INTERVIEWS
- focus the camers and don't move them
- don't be aggressive with upset clients. THEY HAVE RIGHTS!


The list can go on. NASL has disappointed me. I don't want to tolerate anything. I want progress so I give feedback. With so many tournaments out there the competition gets higher and higher. Pump up the quality.

And people, remember, when you pay 25$ to see Transformers 3 on IMAX, a 300 million dollars movie, they never make you wait, they never have problems. This is business. You give money we give you service/products.

This post is meant to be useful, not for trolling. I am not hating, I am helping.


Also this - and a little sad that Sean and Dan were dangled in front of us and they are not casting all the games
dorsch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3 Posts
July 08 2011 22:54 GMT
#213
On July 09 2011 05:39 ceaRshaf wrote:
NASL FAILED HARD.

People MUST understand that if you ask money for a service you have to deliver the service. I, as a client, don't have to be happy just because I get to see StarCraft2 games.

So, a to do list for future events:

- don't start an event 2 hours late
- don't start an event 2 hours late AND ignore the 35k of people like nothing is happening.
- check the whole system and make sure it works.
- AUDIO IS VERY IMPORTANT
- commentators must be heard
- don't make 10 minutes long intros
- PREPARE FOR INTERVIEWS
- focus the camers and don't move them
- don't be aggressive with upset clients. THEY HAVE RIGHTS!


The list can go on. NASL has disappointed me. I don't want to tolerate anything. I want progress so I give feedback. With so many tournaments out there the competition gets higher and higher. Pump up the quality.

And people, remember, when you pay 25$ to see Transformers 3 on IMAX, a 300 million dollars movie, they never make you wait, they never have problems. This is business. You give money we give you service/products.

This post is meant to be useful, not for trolling. I am not hating, I am helping.


Absolutely right. They really can't to anything against the one-sided games we've seen so far BUT they have to present it better.

Everything you said is true but I have to disagree with you about the intros. I'm actually not too fond of them, but they are pretty good for casual viewers who just tuned in for the grand finals. BUT they probably lost all of them by now because of all the other mistakes. So: good idea but well, wasted.

And WHAT the FUCK did the chick in red do with her microphone? It's okay to be nervous (which she obvously was) but did she think she was a fucking gangstar-rapper, strangling the microphone? Just let Artosis or someone more experienced do the intweviews instead.

Well, let's hope for some good games.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33704 Posts
July 08 2011 22:56 GMT
#214
eh, give 'em two more days :o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
JuTsU
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
July 08 2011 23:00 GMT
#215
umm is the stream down?
You cant touch this ish!
dorsch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3 Posts
July 08 2011 23:07 GMT
#216
yeah i really hope they will improve in the next days. would make it much more enjoyable to watch! (not that I'm not watching it anyways)

oh and they should place that ad banner in the background between the commentators so they can get a closer shot of them. i think that would make the work of the (pretty shaky :D) cameraguy much easier and produce a nicer picture.

does anyone know how big the team (in authority of the streaming) is?
and/or what kind of equipment they are using?
Stil
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
July 08 2011 23:20 GMT
#217
Getting annoyed at all the 'junk' on the screen - the banner on top of the players names is terribad (they have one built in guys!), I don't like the FINALS SEASON 1 JULY 8-10 text in the corner, and the screen cycling ads (come on!) covering more space where the replay bar would be. The booth cams are a good idea, but too dark to be worth while.
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
July 08 2011 23:28 GMT
#218
My Quality has been impeccable the whole time. DO NOT understand what people are upset about at all.... are you people watching this through headsets? what a horrible way to watch live events

Production has been awesome. PROPS to NASL
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
iamtheoneneo
Profile Joined April 2011
144 Posts
July 08 2011 23:35 GMT
#219
On July 09 2011 08:28 Jepsyn wrote:
My Quality has been impeccable the whole time. DO NOT understand what people are upset about at all.... are you people watching this through headsets? what a horrible way to watch live events

Production has been awesome. PROPS to NASL


I hear a troll creeping through the woods.....and his name is Jepsyn.

lets address your points in detail shall we:

1) really? so you paid $25 for this POS? id ask for my money back.
2) do not understand what peole are on about? go and read the 600 pages explaining in great detail all the problems - to name a few - late start, bad vid, bad sound (mono), massive delays between games, terrible obs, incorrect VT;s - we could go on.
3)your headset statement is pure ineptitude....and actually deserves no counter argument since your clearly living in some b+w, 60s style world where headsets are seemingly inferior to what i could probably guess at your $10 pc speakers you got from some mass chain pc store.
4) production has been awesome? i can only guess that you are actually blind, and clearly deaf.

Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 08 2011 23:42 GMT
#220
On July 09 2011 08:35 iamtheoneneo wrote:
I hear a troll creeping through the woods.....and his name is Jepsyn.

lets address your points in detail shall we:

1) really? so you paid $25 for this POS? id ask for my money back.
2) do not understand what peole are on about? go and read the 600 pages explaining in great detail all the problems - to name a few - late start, bad vid, bad sound (mono), massive delays between games, terrible obs, incorrect VT;s - we could go on.
3)your headset statement is pure ineptitude....and actually deserves no counter argument since your clearly living in some b+w, 60s style world where headsets are seemingly inferior to what i could probably guess at your $10 pc speakers you got from some mass chain pc store.
4) production has been awesome? i can only guess that you are actually blind, and clearly deaf.



Or you're just childishly overreacting.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
CranKy Ducklings74
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 149
RuFF_SC2 127
ProTech105
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14911
Rain 2244
Artosis 603
NaDa 25
Bale 16
League of Legends
Doublelift3851
Counter-Strike
taco 349
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox659
Mew2King107
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor952
Other Games
summit1g8722
Day[9].tv702
JimRising 594
PiGStarcraft320
C9.Mang0315
ArmadaUGS64
ViBE54
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV277
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream89
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 129
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP73
• Letter142
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv702
• Scarra633
• Shiphtur224
Upcoming Events
Stellar Fest
11h 7m
OSC
20h 7m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
Online Event
1d 9h
FEL
1d 14h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 15h
BSL: Ladder Tournament
1d 17h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
INu's Battles
2 days
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
4 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
INu's Battles
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.