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LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
June 16 2011 05:33 GMT
#41
Great articles! Thanks for all the time and effort put into this. Looking forward to Motbob revamped stats (if they are forthcoming).
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Znoz
Profile Joined January 2011
Latvia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 05:55:28
June 16 2011 05:55 GMT
#42
On June 16 2011 09:40 motbob wrote:
(P)ACE vs. (T)BRAT_OK – The Obvious Winner vs. The Comeback

I may be just an ignorant American, but I have heard almost nothing about BRAT_OK since the beta. If he manages to beat Ace, then it can mean the beginning of a beautiful resurgence of popularity. Ace has a habit of winning foreign tournaments, and if BRAT_OK can stop him now, then consider me a renewed fan.This is the kind of match you have to tune into just to see if BRAT_OK wins/

Looks like you missed some games in league:
http://nasl.tv/Match/Details/bratok-vs-ace-season-1-week-4-match-4

It's more like "Regame or Revenge match" ^_^.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
June 16 2011 06:10 GMT
#43
I like the suggestion that they not cast all the games, and instead release the more lop-sided games as replays. This is especially good, I think, because sometimes the best games to analyze the replays of are the ones that are the most lop-sided
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 06:17:37
June 16 2011 06:15 GMT
#44
Great article. 3 things I feel strongly against.

- Ret vs. Open tournament winner is just plain stupid.

- I think it is not logical to take top 2 from each division to the main bracket, but for qualifiers, you will base on win-lose for all divisions. They should just take the next top 4 ranks in the division to play for qualifiers. And players who already qualify that throw away matches will upset the whole balance.

- I really don't understand how a player is ranked 9 in his division (9/10) but can still qualify automatically for next season. Somebody please enlighten me.
✿◕‿◕✿ Taeng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#45
1) Not casting a terrible game is a great idea.
2) The American Select rant was hilarious.
3) Artosis is still the best player in the world. He should get an auto-invite for next season.
4 & 5) Artosis is still the best player in the world. He should get an auto-invite for next season.
I had a good night of sleep.
manloveman
Profile Joined April 2011
424 Posts
June 16 2011 07:10 GMT
#46
Where is white-ra in all this. Cant see him anywhere, but i see tt1 which was below him in his devision
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
June 16 2011 07:15 GMT
#47
Nice read.
I think the group stage of this tournament has done a good job of separating the men from the boys to a certain extent. I can only imagine season 2 being that much more competitive.
Can't wait for the playoffs!
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 16 2011 07:24 GMT
#48
Amazing write up. Unlike most people I really liked the casual casting done by gretorp and incontrol by week 3+. A lot of the inside jokes, and the comfortable way they do it. Just like mr.bitter + gretorp was a great combo. I definitely felt that gretorp had way too many games to cast as well. So possibly 4 "regular" casters, 2pairs doing different matches, and then have guest casters w/ one of the originals.
liftlift > tsm
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10374 Posts
June 16 2011 07:24 GMT
#49
Wow super long and nice read, thanks!

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ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
June 16 2011 08:15 GMT
#50
On June 16 2011 09:47 Mateo0 wrote:
Show nested quote +

[image loading] (P)MaNa vs. (T)IdrA – Man Who's Been Silent vs. The Gracken


You put Idra as terran there =)

Otherwise, I'm so excited about those playoff!


Didn't you know IdrA race switched?... taking his macro mechanics power to the terran pieces...
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Swap
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
June 16 2011 08:25 GMT
#51
The Jim Lloyd write-up were superb!
he he... ja
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
June 16 2011 08:45 GMT
#52
I really love the part about "The Good, The Bad, and The Outclassed"!
Really well article in gerneral!
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 08:52:52
June 16 2011 08:46 GMT
#53
On June 16 2011 14:55 Znoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 09:40 motbob wrote:
(P)ACE vs. (T)BRAT_OK – The Obvious Winner vs. The Comeback

I may be just an ignorant American, but I have heard almost nothing about BRAT_OK since the beta. If he manages to beat Ace, then it can mean the beginning of a beautiful resurgence of popularity. Ace has a habit of winning foreign tournaments, and if BRAT_OK can stop him now, then consider me a renewed fan.This is the kind of match you have to tune into just to see if BRAT_OK wins/

Looks like you missed some games in league:
http://nasl.tv/Match/Details/bratok-vs-ace-season-1-week-4-match-4

It's more like "Regame or Revenge match" ^_^.


Don't forget he used "ignorant american" excuse! As if it means anything more like "i-don't-follow-any-eu-tournaments-except-lans" :p

P.s. Although i can say who won already because i know which is brat's NA acc and he uses it to play only NASL games, it seems ^^
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 16 2011 09:16 GMT
#54
Some really tough match ups left after a considerably hard route to get this far. Once again expecting some really great games.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
June 16 2011 09:24 GMT
#55
Thanks TL and NASL writers and drawers, great read and good work.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
June 16 2011 09:26 GMT
#56
"the person is aware of the general geographic location of the United States"
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 09:52:05
June 16 2011 09:50 GMT
#57
I must say I kinda like the 10-20-4-16 format. It makes more games matter when theres more arbitrary lines drawn here and there. Right now theres 3 lines, making it 4 groups, tbh i think it could be more. The biggest group, the 20, could definitely use another line to distinguish between 3rd place finishers and 6th place finishers. Obviously the seeding is the difference, but depending a bit on seeding luck you might end up in a situation where someone going 7-2 and placing 3rd in his group gets roughly the same treatment as someone going 4-5 and placing 6th.

I kinda like the GSL up/down matches where Code S 3rd place finishers gets two shots at staying in Code S where 4th place only gets one. I wouldnt mind something similar, like rather than playing a stright up 4player mini playoff, you could make it so that the 7-2 and 3rd place finisher enters that mini-playoff last game and only has to win one game, where others have to win 2 or 3 games.

Obviously you could make it in plenty of ways, but thats why I kinda would like even more arbitrary lines. Ideally finishing 4th instead of 5th or finishing 8th insetad of 9th would all be notable advantages, but maybe thats asking a bit too much.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 16 2011 09:55 GMT
#58
To be fair to the NASL Prospectus, TLO did make the playoffs, he just forfeited his spot due to injury. But um, you listed Incontrol in the playoffs as a correct pick rather than Moman. So I guess it's a wash.

My beef with the Artosis/Grubby thing isn't that they invited them (it's an invite system, what can you do). But that they put them in the same group. Sure they had a category for up-and-comers, but at least those were people who had competed in major tournaments. Sticking Artosis and Grubby as two almost complete unknowns (yes Artosis streams and Grubby did have some showing in Europe, but nothing major I believe?) together was just asking for a skewed division.
Voltus
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia30 Posts
June 16 2011 10:03 GMT
#59
When did NASL stop giving 480p viewing for free?
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
June 16 2011 10:28 GMT
#60
Awesome, awesome write-up. Special shoutout to JimLloyd: The guy knows how to write a great article, seriously.
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