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lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
May 02 2011 02:01 GMT
#81
Huk better than Inca? Zero chance. Sorry, but he's not in the top 16, and I'm doubtful to whether we'll be seeing him in Code S again. I know he's a member of TL but unless he's hiding something, he's simply not putting out the level of play that he should if he wants to make Ro16 or Ro8.
duracell
Profile Joined April 2011
53 Posts
May 02 2011 02:52 GMT
#82
Since the grouping ensures that players aren't given an equal chance to begin with (groups of death) it's a bit silly to complain about small inequalities within the group. Huk got a really good group to begin with, which more than offsets the small disadvantage claimed.

Not saying you shouldn't complain about a system with huge flaws, but if the flaws are recognized but more realistic and efficient to implement (time and money), then complaining about small flaws only when you have personal interest in them reasonably attracts backlash.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 17:30:18
May 02 2011 17:29 GMT
#83
lol great writeup i immediately had to check out the tassadar, choya, and the rain games. poor rain, he choked.

i agree that there needs to be a way to denote a game being so terrible its good. like a bad horror movie.
ipx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia34 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 03:23:57
May 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#84
LMAO i thought the thread said [GSL] Masturbation... Now I'm slightly disappointed.

Anyway as a long time subscriber of every GSL season it doesn't seem that... Exciting anymore even if it has got better. I'd rather spend my time watching the NA players who have more personality even if the standard is a little lower.
Liquid`HayprO
Profile Joined March 2003
Iraq1230 Posts
May 03 2011 03:34 GMT
#85
very strange analysis
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
May 03 2011 06:23 GMT
#86
On May 03 2011 02:29 fishjie wrote:
lol great writeup i immediately had to check out the tassadar, choya, and the rain games. poor rain, he choked.

i agree that there needs to be a way to denote a game being so terrible its good. like a bad horror movie.

yeh they give it 0/5 stars, which generally means its soo bad its worth watching!
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sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
May 03 2011 07:46 GMT
#87
On May 01 2011 06:16 Musou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 05:59 Scribble wrote:
On May 01 2011 04:50 andrea20 wrote:
The reason they don't do round robin is that two players may end up 2-1 and two may end up 1-2. Plus there's six games minimum, and if the 2-1/1-2 split happens, they'll have to play even more games.

The MSL format is a hard 5 games, while the GSL format may have 5 or 6. Both may cause one player to miss another in the group.


They could just go by the head-to-head to settle tie-breakers.

And what happens if someone goes 3-0 and the other three are 1-2 or someone goes 0-3 and the others are 2-1? You can't use head to head, because each of them will have beaten another person. Look at the previous OSL formats which were round-robin. There have been cases of tiebreakers that lasted for 5+ hours because people kept tying.


The problem with GOM system is that it favour people that selected earlier too much

1st player is seeded, he will then pick somebody he sure can beat during the selection (July pick Rain)

2nd player (Rain) then assume that he will lose, pick somebody that he can beat twice (since he will need to play the winner of set 2) so he pick Inca

3rd player (Inca) would then pick somebody that he sure he can beat (Huk)

4th player (Huk) is then in a tough spot because he would play somebody that confidence can beat him (Inca) and if he does lose he will most likely play the 1st player (July) and got 0-2 immediately

while if you think about it, there is no merit for Rain to be picked 2nd and have a say on how his next games will be other than the fact that July think he can beat him easily

So I would really think that there should be 3 different pot based on points where player number 9-16 will be in pot 2, 17-24 will be in pot 3 and 25-32 will be in pot 4

then 1st player can only choose player from pot 2, 2nd player can choose from pot 3 and 3rd player choose from pot 4.

This way you will avoid 'stronger' player being placed in the unfavourable 4th spot of the group

imho though



Put quote here for readability
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
May 05 2011 16:04 GMT
#88
On May 03 2011 12:34 Liquid`HayprO wrote:
very strange analysis


How so Haypro?
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Fiddlah
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada18 Posts
May 05 2011 23:25 GMT
#89
I don't agree with what you said about Huk being the second best player in his group. I personally have a Bias towards Huk because he is my favourite player at the moment but I've been watching him play in tournaments and his livestream and honestly I think he was the worst player in his group. July is a GSL Code S Semi Finalist and one of the best and most aggressive zergs in the world. Inca is probably a top 3 Protoss and Rain is a GSL Finalist although after seeing Rains results maybe Huk was 3rd best in his group. Regardless Huks results did not surprise me. I was cheering for him when he made it to the round of 8 in Code A and getting to Code S was amazing but since then he has not performed at all. In Dreamhack, GSL World Championship, TSL and now GSL May he has been knocked out in every first round last I checked (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). The only place I really saw him perform was MLG but it seemed like he was just having fun there which is cool. Again I am a HUGE Huk fan but do I think he deserves to be in Code S? Not at all. I would rather see him perform in Code A and make it to the finals. Besides that I love Huk and he is a great player.

I really like the thread though.

*This is my first post*
clouda
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2 Posts
May 08 2011 17:58 GMT
#90
First post for me. Love this site but find this comment ridiculous:

"HuK should be angry after these games. Despite being clearly the second best player in the group, he will now only have one chance in the up/down matches."

Funny how Inca rolled his way into the finals after the group stages. A little less bias in the write-ups would be nice.
Fuoeh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands486 Posts
May 08 2011 20:08 GMT
#91
GSL best tournament in the world. Nestea fs sCfou was crazy!!!
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