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HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
November 12 2004 13:34 GMT
#41
On November 12 2004 22:18 uhjoo wrote:
actually, i think game 1 was pretty different than games 2 and 3 (both of which ended with yellow's inability to beat the scv/rine rush). so i'll just recap quickly what i remember.

yellow actually had a shot in game 1 on pellennor ever, although he clearly was at a disadvantage from boxer's devastating scv rush. if i recall the game correctly, when boxer came in with the rush, yellow cancelled his hatch right before it finished (and boxer correspondingly also cancelled his bunker almost simultaneously). boxer then went a fast acad build and retreated back home and started massing m and m. yellow went *3 hatch*, taking his gas expo. this is where i think yellow could have just decided to get faster lurker out of 2 hatch, so he could actually play more aggressively. i suppose this decision of yellow was partly because of the map imbalance (as it's too easy for zerg to get pinned in if terran takes that cliff area where the gas expo is). but in any case, as yellow went a very hungry 3 hatch, boxer massed m and m outside yellow's base and teched to tank/vessel. yellow went lurker and boxer very importantly made a wraith from his port which really was a thorn in yellow's side-- not only hunting overlords, but forcing yellow to cancel a morphing lurker as well and demanding more micro from yellow. In the meantime boxer set up shop outside yellow's choke with m&m/tank, slowly building turret/bunker to solidify that position. yellow could have tried to research drop but instead chose to try to break the gauntlet with link/lurk from three different directions. but ~ 6 lurk/20 ling vs. 2 well-placed bunkers, turrets, 3~4 tanks, and at least 1 control group of m&m meant that he failed to break boxer's hold on his choke, and yellow's subsequent attempt around 45 seconds later with around 12 lings and 5 lurks was also a failure. that's when yellow gg'ed.

i think yellow had a few opportunities to win or at least extend the game further-- i personally think it was a big mistake to take his gas natural before getting lurkers, and also to try to force his way out of his base through a pretty much invincible tank/bunker/turret/m&m line instead of researching ovie drop/speed. but of course, it's easier said than done and hindsight is 20/20 ;P


thanks for the good report.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
sacrificetheory
Profile Joined September 2004
United States98 Posts
November 12 2004 13:41 GMT
#42
i think that boxer is dishonor himself, and yellow also should be ashamed by not handling it after 3 times///... i just think it was stupid because any body could have done that i dont think just boxer, just like how newbs can sometimes catch people who are better offguard when you dont expect an all out ling rush or you dont expect that you need to build a terran wall.. just as most pros dont build walls, a newb might be able to catch them offguard with such cheapness,.... godammit im so pissed both people i wanted to win lost from dumbness Reach playing wierd, and Yellow getting cheased!
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
November 12 2004 14:59 GMT
#43
On November 12 2004 22:41 sacrificetheory wrote:
i think that boxer is dishonor himself, and yellow also should be ashamed by not handling it after 3 times///... i just think it was stupid because any body could have done that i dont think just boxer, just like how newbs can sometimes catch people who are better offguard when you dont expect an all out ling rush or you dont expect that you need to build a terran wall.. just as most pros dont build walls, a newb might be able to catch them offguard with such cheapness,.... godammit im so pissed both people i wanted to win lost from dumbness Reach playing wierd, and Yellow getting cheased!


Our pros are built to handle almost anything, be it rushes or surprises. But from what Im reading, Boxers cheese works because the timing is so critical, and he nails that. But Yellow had to be stubborn and went with the same build.
Moonlight Shadow
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 12 2004 15:01 GMT
#44
i hope oov crushes boxer even tho i hate oov and love boxer.
yellow is probably getting pretty fucked up right about now.
jagermeister or a banana cognac orsomething.
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
Zoom
Profile Joined January 2004
1111 Posts
November 12 2004 15:08 GMT
#45
"boxers mom has got it goin on"
There's no producing this perfect pose, hit the streets in the freshest clothes. Rip the stage, and bless the shows. Spit the flows and hit the do'
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
November 12 2004 16:05 GMT
#46
no way he did that
no way he does it again
no way he does it again
fuk
JAM THE FUCKER!
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
November 12 2004 16:12 GMT
#47
What is that saying...
something like:
fool me once and ...
fool me twice and ...
fool me thrice and....

I just can't wait for Oov to pull out his "secret strat" against BoxeR. BoxeR will have to win his TvT games very fast b/c he can't keep up with Oov's macro.
If anyone has any serious prayer requests please PM me. Thx.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
November 12 2004 16:25 GMT
#48
omg...stop complaining. the guy won 3:0 vs his archrival.
also.... who else would ever do the same strat 3 times in an osl semi? BOXER BABY!
die oov.
AMDme
Profile Joined November 2004
84 Posts
November 12 2004 17:05 GMT
#49
boxer's rush is perfect, like his micro control
BoxeR 4ever
(orky)oTTeR
Profile Joined April 2004
France180 Posts
November 12 2004 17:44 GMT
#50
Boxer is the man.
No Banning yo, I want to react.
eR25-JoeyRay
Profile Joined September 2004
Poland3 Posts
November 12 2004 17:45 GMT
#51
argh i hate bunker rush but boxer has shown once again that he's extremly unordinary player, respect for him. I'm dissapointed though, that we could have had a superb spectacle and instead the were only 3 crappy games :/
mr.FiSt
Profile Joined October 2004
Czech Republic97 Posts
November 12 2004 18:50 GMT
#52
Oov > Boxer
gL hF
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
November 12 2004 18:59 GMT
#53
zerg is getting too good, even boxer has to rush to beat the zerg players -.-a
Bergkamp ftw!
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
November 12 2004 19:00 GMT
#54
if u let zerg fast expand on a gas map...he will take another gas expansion later on...make swarm rush with lurker and then make ultras meanwhile...i think even boxer realise the most effective strategy against zerg is rush..hoho
Bergkamp ftw!
BroLLy
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia11 Posts
November 12 2004 19:12 GMT
#55
Meh, I don't think that zergy is getting too good, it's just that boxer knew that if he could surprise yellow with an offbeat strategy then that's a better idea than playing into what yellow has prepared for. The thing is that each player must have had strats prepared for the other, so boxer just figured 'HAHA, i'll get my prep in first!' This just shows the good logical thinking of Boxer & his awersome ability in micro. But i think that yellow's stubborness not to adjust to Boxer's strats is shocking. I remember yellow as the most flexible player ever, i find it hard to beleive that he got creamed x3 in a row by the same strat, he must have been so demorilised by the 1st game...
Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm.
yOOysi
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland726 Posts
November 12 2004 19:15 GMT
#56
For me this strategy was awensome.

Boxer use his mind, he knows that yellow wouldn't expect this strategy and he will play to make advetage on the start.
Lee Yun Yeol Fighting~!! // Since December 2002 with TL.net
thelucas
Profile Joined October 2004
Slovakia285 Posts
November 12 2004 19:17 GMT
#57
Man unbelievable. I really can believe it. Their chairs must be still cold, when they stop the tournament. Unbelievable.
this is possibility to show what is perfection
Amfey
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4 Posts
November 12 2004 20:32 GMT
#58
Yellow go 5 spawn^^
5 spawn is the best
2ndFoundation
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany212 Posts
November 12 2004 20:58 GMT
#59
argh wtf this is so sad 8[. hate boxer now.
USMCgamer
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)255 Posts
November 12 2004 21:40 GMT
#60
I hope yellow pwns the living crap out of reach at least :/
Being a marine is great and all but I really wish that I could be a zergling...
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