A question to any of the TL guys, do you think as a team you can set up training conditions in europe that are anywhere close in quality to what you have in Korea? I am just wondering if there is a realistic chance for "foreigners" to win large tournaments in europe or the USA in the future if several koreans take part.

PartyBiscuit

Canada4525 Posts

March 07 2011 22:24 GMT

#102

Just realized barring upsets, Tyler might have to roll through all GSL champions to win TSL lol.

Kazzabiss

1006 Posts

March 07 2011 22:49 GMT

#103

There's a grudge between Crucher and Idra, and Ret and Naniwa? (so many and's)
Not that surprising though, given IdrA and Naniwa's personalities

onara

Netherlands12 Posts

March 07 2011 23:34 GMT

#104

First IdrA... now my fellow dutchman Ret... y bother watching GSL at all? I'm going to miss the good old times... Ret gl with moving back and stuff.. My 2 favorite Zerg..

not represented at the highest level

Succes Jos, je blijft een held!

Canucklehead

Canada5074 Posts

March 07 2011 23:48 GMT

#105

No surprise ret left cause he got his korean training which puts him over 9000 now and will have no trouble winning the easier money such as assembly. No shame in that and I give him props for going to korea not once, but twice in his career.

I respect anyone that goes to korea to give it a shot cause even if they're not successful, the training they get from playing so many good opponents on ladder or in practice is invaluable and can't really be replicated anywhere else in the world. Just look at moonglade, only 1 month korean training and 4th at IEM.

Team houses in the foreign scene could be a start, but the average skill level needs to rise if they want to reach the korean level. To use an extreme example, a bunch of bronze leaguers could start a team house, but they wouldn't get that much better playing each other all the time cause you need to play players better than you to improve. Just look at morrow, his zvz is good by euro standards but blows compared to top zergs as shown by his losses to ret, idra and moonglade and the main reason for that is he has no good zergs to practice with.

kvn4444

1510 Posts

March 08 2011 00:44 GMT

#106

he sounded real miserable in korea hehe. Hard though to be away from family/friends, and out of your comfort zone. I think the move is good in his case, better to practice in a situation where your happy mentally.

hidiliho

Canada685 Posts

March 08 2011 01:08 GMT

#107

There's not enough tournaments in Korea for Ret. He'll tear it up in Euroamerican tournaments

spaZzNx-`

Hong Kong1221 Posts

March 08 2011 02:18 GMT

#108

Judging by the matches, can a NaDa v MVP happen? Epic Nerdgasm~

krisss

Luxembourg305 Posts

March 08 2011 03:15 GMT

#109

well i wish ret gl n the future.
im a bit sad, since from the beginning of sc2 i saw the chance of europeans that can compete with the "korean power". But TLO Idra and ret leaving... i just guess the gap will grow bigger and bigger again, and there wil be a split from the "Koreans" and the others.

Sprouter

United States1724 Posts

March 08 2011 03:28 GMT

#110

tyler thinks he will be overcome the three corners of the gsl. we shall see :D

ret going home

. hwaitingggggg!

Leviance

Germany4079 Posts

March 08 2011 04:33 GMT

#111

Awesome to have ret back in Europe!!! Welcome home, I hope to also see you participating in the smaller weekly tournaments like Go4Sc2, Zotac and such regularly, one can also accumulate quite some money in those and more important - we can see you play more often :D I wish TLO played in those sometimes as well. And as some guy mentioned above: HomeStory Cup #3!!!!!

DropTester

Australia608 Posts

March 08 2011 08:23 GMT

#112

sad to see ret leave korea

no more watching him on gsl but hopefully will see him play in more tournaments now that he is at home.

wish there was a replay pack but still a great weekly as always

Ghad

Norway2551 Posts

March 08 2011 09:00 GMT

#113

I think living in Korea is maybe not worthwhile for foreigners because there are so few competitive matches to actually play over there.

It is a major sacrifice to live with no privacy like that over extended periods of time, for sure.

krembollen

Norway18 Posts

March 08 2011 12:41 GMT

#114

Welcome back ret!
I can totally understand your need for privacy. Imagine jerking of while gorrila terran is in the room. Say no more...

tdp

Netherlands10 Posts

March 08 2011 15:53 GMT

#115

Welcome home Ret.

Good luck in the european and american tourneys!

(but sersiously, they ask for dutch food and you come up with chicken and rice? /o\)

Bagi

Germany6799 Posts

March 08 2011 16:10 GMT

#116

Welcome back, Ret

ZUR1CH

United States108 Posts

March 08 2011 19:04 GMT

#117

OMFG that bracket.

Champi

1422 Posts

March 08 2011 22:18 GMT

#118

gl ret best of luck back home

GreenFaction

United States82 Posts

March 09 2011 06:20 GMT

#119

Ret~ as an avid fan, who has learned so much from you, I appreciate your message of confidence in yourself. A man of your talents could be easily discouraged by the difficulties you encountered in the GSL, but such a man has no reason to despair. I am especially proud of your victory at Assembly (a fond memory I recall whenever I feel bullied by protoss), and I can't wait to see you dismember the NASL with what you have learned in Korea.

Also, your focus on balanced living is inspiring.

JayDee_

548 Posts

March 09 2011 10:27 GMT

#120

Bummer to hear about ret. I was hoping he would eventually make a break through, whether it was next season or a while from now. I understand his reasoning though. I wouldn't be happy living in a foreign country, cramped into a gaming house and sleeping on bunk beds. GL ret!