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Homecoming: Liquid` to Korea! - Page 19

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Starlink
Profile Joined April 2010
United States35 Posts
August 13 2010 17:41 GMT
#361
I'm so excited!

Good luck, guys!
gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
August 13 2010 17:42 GMT
#362
This is fantastic. You guys are fantastic.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
August 13 2010 17:44 GMT
#363
On August 14 2010 02:39 CTStalker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 02:35 Murderotica wrote:
On August 14 2010 02:28 Lyw9475 wrote:
On August 14 2010 02:17 Murderotica wrote:
But honestly, does anyone else not see the fault in the fact that people who wouldn't ever pass courage tournament are moving to Korea to play SC2? Not saying that they are not good SC2 players, but the fact that SC2 has such a low skill ceiling that players who would get stomped out by any current registered progamer feel that they are strong enough in this game to invest money into playing SC2 in Korea? WTF. Since when have the fans of progaming been okay with this kind of competitive scene? I guess SC2 is to blame but WTF. W T F. I can't express it any better than this.


SC1 and SC2 are totally different game. if you don't pass courage in SC1 absolutely doen't mean than you won't pass the top 32 in GSL.

That's my point exactly. Less skill in progames = less skills necessary to win = less enjoyment from watching.

Then why are you even posting here? If you don't like SC2, don't watch it. You don't need to continually post in SC2 topics about how you think it's a worse game.

edit: oops, didn't see your last post. in any event, stop doing this please.

Because SC2 is what is dominating the headlines now in terms of current TL (team, admin, and poster) time investment. Therefore it is the direction we are heading it. What I am saying is we are jumping head first into this. On the one hand it is not my place to judge people for their dreams and aspirations, but on the other hand I am entitled to an opinion (I don't feel like I am inappropriate in my delivery). Like many opinions of a regressive minority in previous times, it is also true that the fight is futile and in the end people will do what they want to do. I said before that I'd not post in SC2 topics but every newspost that reveals more and more intention to devote resources and manpower to it... it feels like it drains my soul a little more. Sorry for bothering people.

P.S. not watching it is not the problem, I already do that. It's seeing the community I've come to appreciate and enjoy changing to something I disagree with.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
August 13 2010 17:47 GMT
#364
great news. make us proud
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
August 13 2010 17:48 GMT
#365
LIQUID FIGHTING!!!
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
.Soul
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada81 Posts
August 13 2010 17:49 GMT
#366
Good luck in korea guys! Gogogo TL
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 13 2010 17:50 GMT
#367
Ok WOW. Seriously this is THE BIGGEST news I've heard on TL since joining.

Fuck ya guys, *puts on aviators* we're going home...
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
August 13 2010 17:51 GMT
#368
Awesome
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
August 13 2010 17:51 GMT
#369
Also, big thanks to The Little App Factory... Such a kick ass company, I wish I had an apple products so I can buy something from them :D
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 17:52:03
August 13 2010 17:51 GMT
#370
On August 14 2010 02:17 Murderotica wrote:
But honestly, does anyone else not see the fault in the fact that people who wouldn't ever pass courage tournament are moving to Korea to play SC2? Not saying that they are not good SC2 players, but the fact that SC2 has such a low skill ceiling that players who would get stomped out by any current registered progamer feel that they are strong enough in this game to invest money into playing SC2 in Korea? WTF. Since when have the fans of progaming been okay with this kind of competitive scene? I guess SC2 is to blame but WTF. W T F. I can't express it any better than this.

First of all, SC2 is a brand new game.

2nd, Nazgul has been to Korea to play SC1, and he made it onto TV.

3rd, I may not be able to take games in SC1 off korean pros today, but I have done it before I quit playing SC1 in late 2006.

Not like I never played SC1 before you know...
http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/index.php?player1=dream.t)plto&team1_race=&map=&description=&uploader=&player2=&team2_race=&search=1
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Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
August 13 2010 17:52 GMT
#371
On August 14 2010 02:32 Nal_rAwr wrote:
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On August 14 2010 00:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On August 14 2010 00:45 Nal_rAwr wrote:
This is not true.

ESTRO has always been like this, and long ago it had a lot of foreigners, so I wouldn't say its entirely unprecedented

What do you mean it's not true, I was in ESTRO (called AMD) in the period you are talking about, but where is the foreign team in all of this?

wasn't there a lot of foreigners in estro?

Yes there were a lot of foreigners in Estro and so you are correct in the fact that Estro was friendly/supportive towards foreigners as separate players. The important factor here is that the foreigners were part of the Estro team. That however is not what the OP is stating.

The point in the OP is that it's a Foreign Team and a Korean Team (so 2 teams where Estro was only 1 team and a Korean one at that) working this closely together. I would assume oGs management can't dictate what the Liquid` players do and vice versa. Everything will be done in joint cooperation and on mutual agreement. Whereas Estro could completely decide what their foreign players should do as they were an integral part of their team.

You see the difference in the two situations?
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
August 13 2010 17:55 GMT
#372
So great, exciting times! All of TL is behind you guys, don't forget that!
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 13 2010 17:56 GMT
#373
wowowoowowowoowow

Can't wait for GSL. Very exciting!
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
August 13 2010 17:56 GMT
#374
On August 14 2010 02:51 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 02:17 Murderotica wrote:
But honestly, does anyone else not see the fault in the fact that people who wouldn't ever pass courage tournament are moving to Korea to play SC2? Not saying that they are not good SC2 players, but the fact that SC2 has such a low skill ceiling that players who would get stomped out by any current registered progamer feel that they are strong enough in this game to invest money into playing SC2 in Korea? WTF. Since when have the fans of progaming been okay with this kind of competitive scene? I guess SC2 is to blame but WTF. W T F. I can't express it any better than this.

First of all, SC2 is a brand new game.

2nd, Nazgul has been to Korea to play SC1, and he made it onto TV.

3rd, I may not be able to take games in SC1 off korean pros today, but I have done it before I quit playing SC1 in late 2006.

Not like I never played SC1 before you know...
http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/index.php?player1=dream.t)plto&team1_race=&map=&description=&uploader=&player2=&team2_race=&search=1

Of course not. I am well aware of the abilities of the TL staff (especially the founders). This is why TL is such a great site. I tried to make it obvious that I am not hating on you for your lack of abilities. But there is a reason why you guys aren't playing in the OSL right now, and why you are going to Korea for SC2 and not SC1. I didn't mean to come off as disrespectful to you, Nazgul, and other players that used to be in Korea playing the game that I love. I have a lot of respect for you. Also Nony, Rekrul, Leg, Idra, Rek, and every other player that has. But I find it hard to support this move to SC2. That's my main problem. Your 3rd point is the one that is most exemplary of my stance - SC is very different now than it was in 2006, or 2001, or SC2.

I said in an earlier post in this thread, GL to all of you. I really do wish you the best. But more than anything I wish for SC to live on forever and to not lose any steam. SC2 is a direct enemy of this.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
August 13 2010 17:58 GMT
#375
Amazing, I never thought this would happen. Good luck in Korea guys! Now if you get IdrA rage, you can actually walk over to his place and sock him one! J/K, best of luck and have fun! We'll be watching and HWAITING!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
August 13 2010 18:01 GMT
#376
oGs + TL = world domination ^^
glhf guys win it all.
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
August 13 2010 18:01 GMT
#377
awesome news glhf in korea =)
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 13 2010 18:01 GMT
#378
OMG... this is awesome news. Good luck over there in Korea!
thatguy431
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
August 13 2010 18:03 GMT
#379
This is the coolest thing I've read in a long time! Good luck to the players and have fun and be respectful!
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
August 13 2010 18:03 GMT
#380
On August 14 2010 02:44 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 02:39 CTStalker wrote:
On August 14 2010 02:35 Murderotica wrote:
On August 14 2010 02:28 Lyw9475 wrote:
On August 14 2010 02:17 Murderotica wrote:
But honestly, does anyone else not see the fault in the fact that people who wouldn't ever pass courage tournament are moving to Korea to play SC2? Not saying that they are not good SC2 players, but the fact that SC2 has such a low skill ceiling that players who would get stomped out by any current registered progamer feel that they are strong enough in this game to invest money into playing SC2 in Korea? WTF. Since when have the fans of progaming been okay with this kind of competitive scene? I guess SC2 is to blame but WTF. W T F. I can't express it any better than this.


SC1 and SC2 are totally different game. if you don't pass courage in SC1 absolutely doen't mean than you won't pass the top 32 in GSL.

That's my point exactly. Less skill in progames = less skills necessary to win = less enjoyment from watching.

Then why are you even posting here? If you don't like SC2, don't watch it. You don't need to continually post in SC2 topics about how you think it's a worse game.

edit: oops, didn't see your last post. in any event, stop doing this please.

Because SC2 is what is dominating the headlines now in terms of current TL (team, admin, and poster) time investment. Therefore it is the direction we are heading it. What I am saying is we are jumping head first into this. On the one hand it is not my place to judge people for their dreams and aspirations, but on the other hand I am entitled to an opinion (I don't feel like I am inappropriate in my delivery). Like many opinions of a regressive minority in previous times, it is also true that the fight is futile and in the end people will do what they want to do. I said before that I'd not post in SC2 topics but every newspost that reveals more and more intention to devote resources and manpower to it... it feels like it drains my soul a little more. Sorry for bothering people.

P.S. not watching it is not the problem, I already do that. It's seeing the community I've come to appreciate and enjoy changing to something I disagree with.


still honestly not seeing why you are posting then. If you still disagree with the game and the scene, why are you still following? There are so many games that you can follow, why is team-liquid forcing you to like SC2. If you disagree with their move to Korea, it might be the best just to keep it to yourself instead of starting an unneeded shit storm on their glorious parade.
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