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Fantasy PL 09-10 R4 Signups
April 6th, 2010 16:01 GMT
Play Fantasy Proleague! It's fun, easy, and makes watching Proleague much more exciting. You don't need to spend any time on managing your team during the season if you don't want to. If you don't fully understand the rules, don't worry. The basic thing to remember is, pick players for your "Main Team" that you think will do well, and pick players for your "Anti Team" who you think will do poorly.
Previous Champions
08-09 R2 FPL1 | Rankings | Awards - intrigue + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +1. intrigue - 273 2. doubleupgradeobbies! - 213 3. TonyL2 - 212 4. Hot_Bid - 212 5. OneOther - 207 6. ArvickHero - 207 7. Dyno. - 206 8. tiffany - 203 9. IntoTheWow - 202 10. brjdrb - 202 08-09 R3 FPL2 | Rankings | Awards - Nikk + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +1. Nikk - 243 2. Samurai- - 237 3. Carefree Me - 236 3. bumatlarge - 236 5. d(O.o)a - 235 6. ondik - 234 7. ~chut~ - 233 7. Ctoan55 - 233 9. AnyOne - 232 9. Incognitodies - 232 9. miseiler - 232 08-09 R4 FPL3 | Rankings | Awards - doubleupgradeobbies! + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +1. doubleupgradeobbies! - 183 2. SK Telecom T1 - 173 3. Liquid`Zephyr - 171 4. Pizzown - 167 5. brjdrb - 165 5. wtflah - 165 7. BroOd - 164 8. Solidus_315 - 164 9. Initial_H.C.- 159 10. [AhunGrY]MelOn - 157 08-09 R5 FPL4 | Rankings | Awards - pripple + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +1. pripple - 218 2. heygk - 216 3. lazz - 209 4. wiesel - 208 5. DalaiLameR - 207 6. Kaolla - 207 7. supergirl - 206 8. StarKiller- 205 9. pachi - 205 10. Fr33t - 204 09-10 R1 FPL5 | Rankings | Awards - mh.3.9 + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +1. mh.3.9 - 217 2. IntoTheWow - 217 3. DalaiLameR - 216 4. KP_CollectoR - 214 5. the PUNisher - 214 6. Kyuukyuu - 213 7. Neptuneajax - 210 8. Hot_Bid - 208 9. SHr3DD3r - 204 10. Samurai- - 204 09-10 R2 FPL6 | Rankings | Awards - platypuses0 + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +1. platypuses0 - 237 2. DejaVu119 - 234 3. Zanzar - 230 4. Kyuukyuu - 223 5. Pryce - 222 6. Mr Right - 215 7. VictorW - 211 8. thopol - 211 9. DalaiLameR - 209 10. Japakazol - 208 09-10 R3 FPL7 | Rankings | Awards - Radfield + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +1. Radfield - 186 2. mrlie3 - 181 3. CorsairHero - 180 4. RainmanMP - 179 5. jojoquirion - 174 6. Numba - 172 7. Scamp - 172 8. blapsd - 171 8. Crunchums - 171 8. IcMp - 171 8. orcsmash - 171 09-10 R4 FPL8 | Rankings | Awards - Signups Open
Three Top 10 Finishes: DalaiLameR
Two Top 10 Finishes: brjdrb doubleupgradeobbies! Hot_Bid IntoTheWow Kyuukyuu Samurai-
Fantasy Proleague Scoring
Player Scoring: + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] +Lineup Appearance (non-Ace): +1 Point* Game Win (Ace included): +2 Points Game Loss (Ace included): -1 Point Ace Match Appearance: +2 Points 3-Game Win Streak: +1 Point 6-Game Win Streak: +2 Points 9-Game Win Streak: +3 Points Break Another Player's Streak: +1 Point Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point**
*This point is applied even if your player does not play; he only has to appear in the lineup **This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match Team Scoring: + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] +3-0 Victory: 6 Points 3-1 Victory: 4 Points 3-2 Victory: 2 Points 2-3 Defeat: 0 Points 1-3 Defeat: -1 Point 0-3 Defeat: -2 Points Miscellaneous + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] + Scoring Example: + Show Spoiler [Show Example] +Hwaseung OZ 3-2 SK Telecom T1 HiyA > fantasy Young < BeSt Jaedong > Hyuk Lomo < BoxeR Jaedong > BisuHwaseung Oz: 2 Points (+2 for 3-2 Victory) SK Telecom T1: 0 Points (+0 for 2-3 Defeat) Jaedong: 8 Points (+1 for lineup, +4 for 2 wins, +2 for ace selection, +1 for team win) Hiya: 4 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win, +1 for team win) Best: 3 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win) Boxer: 3 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win) Young: 1 Point (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss, +1 for team win) Lomo: 1 Point (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss, +1 for team win) Bisu: 1 Point (+2 for ace selection, -1 for loss) Fantasy: 0 Points (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss) Everyone else on Hwaseung Oz: 1 Point (+1 for team win) Everyone else on SK Telecom T1: 0 Points
How to Play
- You choose 6 players and 1 Pro Team that score points when they play well.
- You pick 3 players that lose you points when they play well.
- Players and teams can be traded between weeks for those valued less than them.
Team Selection
Main Team + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] +- Pick 6 players for your Main Team, including a captain who will be a tiebreaker
- Pick 1 Proleague team (i.e. STX, CJ, SKT, etc.)
- You cannot trade your captain (more on trading later)
- Your 6 players and 1 Proleague team cannot exceed 30 points in cost
- Your Main Team must contain at least one of each race at all times
Anti Team + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] +- Pick 3 players for your Anti Team
- These players score points like Main Team players, but their score counts against you
- Your Anti Team must have a value of at least 13 points (minimum)
Basic Team Selection Strategy + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] +- Pick players for your Main Team who you believe will exceed their point value from last round (underrated or rising players)
- Pick players for your Anti Team who you believe will do worse than they did last round (overrated or slumping players)
- Designate as Captain a player who you believe will be a lock to be good throughout the season, because you can't trade him
Trading
Trading Rules + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] +- Each week you can trade players (swap a player for someone you don't have)
- Every player has a trade value, and you can only trade for players of lower value
- You will be limited to a maximum 2 Main Team and 1 Anti Team trades per week
- Trades do not carry over if unused
- Each time you trade, your team will be assessed a -1 point trade tax
Basic Trading Strategy + Show Spoiler [Click to Show] +- Check lineups each week! Players in the lineup are usually more valuable.
- Don't make trades just for sake of making trades, as they cost you trade tax points and you may get stuck with a player you don't want
- The trade price formula takes into account number of matches remaining -- so players with more matches remaining will have higher prices
- You must trade for players with less value, but try to minimize the value loss. For example, if you trade someone worth 30 for someone worth 20, next week you can only trade the 20 for someone less. It's much better to trade the 30 for someone worth 29.
Groups
You will be able to create and join groups so you can compare your results with a smaller subset of the players, for example there might be a Staff Group, a First Time FPL Group, a USA Players Group, or a group created by you with just your friends.
Good luck, and tell your friends!
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Braavos36374 Posts
Bisu has been added and is available for your teams.
+ Show Spoiler [OLD INFO] +Quick note about Bisu. He has returned to SKT but we are waiting until the lineups come out before estimating his price. He will be available for selection as soon as lineups come out in the next few days, before PL starts this weekend.
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If there is no break then lineups should be out tonight at 13 kst but don't quote me on that.
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Fun fun fun
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United States42255 Posts
After years of being confused about what exactly Fantasy Proleague involved I've finally decided to give it a try. And put JD on my antiteam!
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France2061 Posts
I assume that a player on your anti also scores against you if his team wins, in the same way that a main team player will score in your favor if his team wins?
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yeah i think i'll try it. although i'll probably pick my team and never look at it again till the end
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On April 07 2010 01:49 KwarK wrote: After years of being confused about what exactly Fantasy Proleague involved I've finally decided to give it a try. And put JD on my antiteam! JD on Anti Team O_O
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On April 07 2010 01:49 KwarK wrote: After years of being confused about what exactly Fantasy Proleague involved I've finally decided to give it a try. And put JD on my antiteam! ballsy..
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
273 points baby, world record!!
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Hey, would it be possible in the future to implement trading so that it can be done in batches, rather than one by one?
For example, say I have two players each worth 5 points. I'd like to trade them for a player worth 9 points and a player worth 0 points. Supposedly I should be able to do this since 5 + 5 > 9 + 0, but the way the system is, it isn't possible.
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It gets harder and harder to choose antis every round. Forgg is def going on my team tho
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ack the streak break point is back in? it going away was the best part of the new scoring system ;_;
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This time I tried to find some balance between making a team out of players I like while still trying to maintain reasonable chances in the competition. (apologies to Reach, Sea, free, Iris, Hwasin, Upmagic, Backho, and pretty much the entire ACE team for not getting them ) We'll see how we fare.
Players I Like (And Can Afford)
Main Team 7 Kal (captain) 7 Stork 7 Zero 4 Baby 1 Bogus 1 MVP
3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team 5 Kwanro 5 Roro 3 Hogil
And as usual, I've founded the "no trading" group, I hope we can get more people to join this season
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whens the signup deadline?
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
Wait, where is Bisu?
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On April 07 2010 03:11 Jenia6109 wrote:Wait, where is Bisu?
read 2nd post
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where is bisu?
i cant find it
edit. nvm
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
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When does the proleague season start? There's nothing on the calendar yet.
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United States11637 Posts
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looks good cant wait till it starts my first pool hope my team does decenat
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My anti-team ended up forming the phrase... "Free baby killer." I stuck with it simply because of that. =)
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is it me or is luxury for 2 points just a great deal?^^ also i hope bisu will be there. my alltime fav toss <3
flash for 12 points is sick, could be funny in anti team. :D
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I ROVE TEAMRIQUID
Main Team 4 Baby 2 Hydra 9 Leta (captain) 4 Movie 5 Skyhigh 3 YoonJoong 3 CJ Entus
Anti Team 4 Mind 6 Really 3 Yarnc
IM A CJ FANBOY! I CHOOSE SKYHIGH/MOVIE COMBO OVER STATS AND SEA BECAUSE I LOVE CJ. ITS NOT RIGHT TO NOT HAVE THEM. hehe. i didnt put effort into my anti because i have a feeling hes going to return from his slump because so many people put him on their anti team
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United States17042 Posts
ugh i'm so terrible at this for how much starcraft I watch >.>
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United States11390 Posts
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The last time I put killer @ my anti team after Boxer Nuked him, killer is on fire. Then I put Firebathero as my anti team, he is on fire.
I put Bisu as captain, he disapoint me Actually I put full SKT T1 as team, all fail for me. 
This time I am so confused. Considering put flash as captain, but scare he will slump if I put him as captain.
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On April 07 2010 10:00 XiaoJoyce- wrote:The last time I put killer @ my anti team after Boxer Nuked him, killer is on fire. Then I put Firebathero as my anti team, he is on fire. I put Bisu as captain, he disapoint me  Actually I put full SKT T1 as team, all fail for me.  This time I am so confused. Considering put flash as captain, but scare he will slump if I put him as captain.
Please put Bisu on your anti-team so he starts raping face
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Ares[Effort]
DEMACIA6550 Posts
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hmmm
who will do worse, stork or effort?
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What is wrong with YoonJoong? The guy has an insane pvp (even if it is from a reletively small game pool), and just came off of an 8+ game win streak v zerg, and is an all around beast.
for the record:
Main Team 3 Best 7 Calm 3 ForGG 6 Sea (captain) 3 Stats 3 YoonJoong 5 STX Soul
Anti Team 4 Hoejja 4 Killer 5 Roro
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Can't wait for Saturday, once R4 starts up again :D! So excited.
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The phrase "all of your eggs in one basket" comes to mind...
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On April 07 2010 13:40 hacklebeast wrote:What is wrong with YoonJoong? The guy has an insane pvp (even if it is from a reletively small game pool), and just came off of an 8+ game win streak v zerg, and is an all around beast. for the record: Main Team3 Best7 Calm3 ForGG6 Sea (captain) 3 Stats3 YoonJoong5 STX SoulAnti Team4 Hoejja4 Killer5 Roro
Nothing, I personally think Shuttle (YoongJoon) is one of the best Protoss players right now. He can take out all of the best Protoss players easy, can take out every Zerg player too, but he has some trouble with Terran.
Shuttle (YoongJoon) has amazing macro and storms in PvP, really good shuttle/reaver micro, storms, and harassment in PvZ but his PvT isn't at the same level, although it is not bad. I think Shuttle has shown us amazing skills so far for not so many games, 75% vP, 60% vZ and 48% vT, that is very good.
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anyone else find it funny that stork is on as many main teams as he is on anti ones? Makes me wonder how many people out there want to put him on both.
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Team1994
Main Team 2 815 2 Anytime 4 Baby (captain) 3 ForGG 9 Leta 7 Stork 3 WeMade FOX
Anti Team 4 Movie 5 Roro 5 Skyhigh
815 is just for the sake of getting KT points I'm hoping Anytime can pull through with some wins for ACE Baby is a baller I think ForGG will have a good proleague season. He looked good in MSL RO32 Was considering putting Jaedong instead of Leta, but i needed that extra point for 815. I think Leta will do just as well. Since Grand Line is one of the new maps, I imagine Stork will have a monster time. WeMade was pure hope. they're my 2nd favorite team (next to KT Rolster. but they're too expensive. :<)
as for anti, movie and roro i predict aren't gonna do as well as they have been.
skyhigh might hurt me, but i'm willing to take the risk.
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On April 07 2010 13:40 hacklebeast wrote: What is wrong with YoonJoong? The guy has an insane pvp (even if it is from a reletively small game pool), and just came off of an 8+ game win streak v zerg, and is an all around beast.
In recent games YoonJoong has lost to n.Die_soO, SangHo, and Jaehoon, all players that are only notable for the fact that they're fucking awful at bw, but on shitty enough teams to be put into the a-team. He's also competing with Kal for a protoss spot on the lineup, on a team where the best players are predominantly zerg (Calm, hero, Modesty, July, etc.)
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On April 07 2010 17:44 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 13:40 hacklebeast wrote: What is wrong with YoonJoong? The guy has an insane pvp (even if it is from a reletively small game pool), and just came off of an 8+ game win streak v zerg, and is an all around beast.
In recent games YoonJoong has lost to n.Die_soO, SangHo, and Jaehoon, all players that are only notable for the fact that they're fucking awful at bw, but on shitty enough teams to be put into the a-team. He's also competing with Kal for a protoss spot on the lineup, on a team where the best players are predominantly zerg (Calm, hero, Modesty, July, etc.)
to be fair, kal has also lost to those said players plus hyuk and shine. but i agree that shuttle will be competing against kal so it's hard to put him on the team
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
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Ballsy move there, putting the Dong on your anti.
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look like sea or light is a must for the terran category
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who are the five players in the banner? I think I see jaedong (in the 2nd spot) flash (4th) and savior (5th), but even on those i'm not entierly sure.
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CJ Entus =D. You are brave.
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On April 08 2010 01:01 hacklebeast wrote: who are the five players in the banner? I think I see jaedong (in the 2nd spot) flash (4th) and savior (5th), but even on those i'm not entierly sure.
Jangbi/Jaedong/Luxury/Flash/Leta
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Russian Federation41 Posts
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Now that Proleague rules did change I decided to open my thought why I did pick these guys.
Pressing Hard
Main Team 4 Baby Obvious choice, Showing a lot of skill in MSL and OSL gives my spot for good results for Proleague success too. Have to remember now that they can send more terrans and zergs, Baby is most certain one of they key factors scoring points for Wemade team.
3 Best Cheap choice for strong protoss who I think is much better all-around protoss than other players. So unpredictable and does not afraid anyone. Has good PvZ and PvT and decent PvP but most likely he will face a lot of zergs.
7 Effort Benefits secret lineups. Very versatile player with strong ZvP and decent ZvZ. Still I worry about ZvT because it might be his primary matchup but I have hope that Effort somehow shows how job is done playing those new maps.
3 ForGG For three points ForGG is obvious pick. Almost guaranteed points from KT winning matches and more playtime now that they don't have to play protoss that often.
3 Great (captain) Cheap player for captain that I don't have to change. Great usually has lot of playtime, especially Winnersleague he got good amount. Why not now too? I expect his value go up to 5 points at least.
7 Zero Must pick. Almost guaranteed playing spot now that they don't have to play terrans that often. Though 7 points is costly but he is chosen as ACE player so often that a must pick always for my team.
3 CJ Entus They are out of the slump. Gone is weak protoss players and here comes zergs. Their team is so solid (Winnersleague was fail) and now that players have to earn their spot for lineup I bet there is no fillers anymore.
Anti Team 2 Flying He is not going to get playtime and ESTRO usually doesn't win that often. Good pick for Anti team.
9 Leta I hope that Hite Sparkyz sucks this season and Leta goes horrible slump . I don't think he will do that good now that he might face more zergs than normally he does.
2 SangHo Risky pick as he might get playtime but I can't pick other weak guys from other team because I like to keep Anti team and Normal team guys separated.
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On April 07 2010 00:55 Hot_Bid wrote: Quick note about Bisu. He has returned to SKT but we are waiting until the lineups come out before estimating his price. He will be available for selection as soon as lineups come out in the next few days, before PL starts this weekend.
What did i miss? Where'd he go?
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On April 08 2010 05:06 Spanxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 00:55 Hot_Bid wrote: Quick note about Bisu. He has returned to SKT but we are waiting until the lineups come out before estimating his price. He will be available for selection as soon as lineups come out in the next few days, before PL starts this weekend. What did i miss? Where'd he go? SKT1 sent Bisu on another "paid vacation", like the one they sent him on durring his previous slump. He roard back last time and reasserted himself as a domanant programer. SKT1 is hoping for a simmilar result this time
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Kwanro is almost guaranteed perform at $5 worth, so he might not be good for AT
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I would suggest not putting Kwanro and Shuttle on your anti-team, they will most likely perform well.
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Kwanro and YoonJoong are going to do their job for their price, so they are not fit for AT
For a 1 pointer, choose someone who will be sent out at least since there's no loss for losing. You can also choose a 1 pointer from KTR, MBC, or STX since they will rack up on team win points.
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Idra, Boxer, Tossgirl > All.
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I checked how many games each player played in the recent 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League (I know its not PL but it still shows their recent performances and playtime / importance to their team) and calculated their win percentages. I hope this helps people newer people out. 
+ Show Spoiler +2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League Light 27-9 (36) [75.00%] Flash 22-3 (25) [88.00%] fantasy 15-9 (24) [62.50%] Jaedong 15-8 (23) [65.21%] Leta 14-7 (21) [66.66%] Kal 12-8 (20) [60.00%] HiyA 11-9 (20) [55.00%] Kwanro 9-9 (18) [50.00%] GuemChi 12-5 (17) [70.58%] Really 9-8 (17) [52.94%] firebathero 9-8 (17) [52.94%] EffOrt 7-10 (17) [41.17%] free 9-7 (16) [56.25%] Action 8-8 (16) [50.00%] BaBy 8-8 (16) [50.00%] fOrGG 8-8 (16) [50.00%] sKyHigh 7-9 (16) [43.75%] Sea 10-5 (15) [66.66%] ZerO 8-7 (15) [53.33%] Movie 7-8 (15) [46.66%] Calm 8-6 (14) [57.14%] JangBi 6-8 (14) [42.85%] Stork 7-6 (13) [53.84%] Killer 6-7 (13) [46.15%] RuBy 5-8 (13) [38.46%] YoonJoong 8-4 (12) [66.66%] RorO 6-6 (12) [50.00%] hyvaa 5-7 (12) [41.66%] (Note: I put games played above the win percentages and I only did 12 games played onwards.)
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Ive noticed the team selections are stacked lately... and where is bisu on the selection? I knew he was on break,but for ALL R4 as well? I would select him at a reduced price since we all know hes mega slumping^^ DONKEY KONG MASTER
Main Team 4 Baby 12 Flash (captain) 1 July 6 Sea 1 Soulkey 3 Stats 3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team 6 Jangbi 4 Mind 3 Yarnc
I am really considering changing it up a bunch though... Flash is just too consistent and with the format change he will probably get to play in every set.
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On April 08 2010 14:49 dRaW wrote:Ive noticed the team selections are stacked lately... and where is bisu on the selection? I knew he was on break,but for ALL R4 as well? I would select him at a reduced price since we all know hes mega slumping^^ DONKEY KONG MASTERMain Team4 Baby12 Flash (captain) 1 July6 Sea1 Soulkey3 Stats3 Woongjin StarsAnti Team6 Jangbi4 Mind3 YarncI am really considering changing it up a bunch though... Flash is just too consistent and with the format change he will probably get to play in every set.
Whats the new format exactly?
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Hot_Bid, I love you. I will give your name to my future son. One thing I don't get. Why no Bisu on the list ? Yes he is in leave, but he will very certainly come back. And a lot of players can be select from the list who are not even on their teams rosters and will never come back (July...). Is it only because Bisu is Bisu ?
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CA10825 Posts
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Braavos36374 Posts
Bisu has been added and is available for your teams.
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Thanks Hot_Bid.
7 Points though? Hasn't he been playing really badly lately? 
Man, I <3 Bisu but he's so expensive, I don't know how I could add him to my team without messing everything up.
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I'd say the best 3 pointers besides Shuttle/Stats would be ForGG, Great or Best. The reason is because those 3 players will normally always be played, they are fairly good players and will be used a lot I think.
Players like Firebathero, Action, Shine, Ruby and Jaehoon are not that reliable, they will probably be around 35-50% win rate, where the others might be more like 45-55% win rate.
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Pretty baller team imo.but unfortunately not gonna be good enough.this isn't WL.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Pretty solid team... but I'd reconsider your whole anti-team. free will be getting a lot of matches, and I'm feeling Hwasin. RoRo... eh, he lives to screw over anti-teams.
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On April 08 2010 20:23 flamewheel91 wrote:Pretty solid team... but I'd reconsider your whole anti-team. free will be getting a lot of matches, and I'm feeling Hwasin. RoRo... eh, he lives to screw over anti-teams.
The reason they put Effort (I have also) is because Effort's ZvT has been soooooooo bad lately, he wins like 2 out of 10 ZvT's now, hes horrible at it atm. His ZvP is still hella strong, and his ZvZ is decent, but right now hes kind of slumping, he has been for awhile... That's the reason CJ went bad in WL because Effort normally will carry the team, so if he plays the bad, the team plays bad.
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On April 08 2010 19:44 BloodDrunK wrote:Pretty baller team imo.but unfortunately not gonna be good enough.this isn't WL. Specially, Luxury is out
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Really strong team man, nice job. But that anti-team.. ouch.. Shuttle is playing so amazing lately, I doubt he will drop many games at all. Jangbi's PvZ has been on fire too, his PvT/PvP not as good so you might not regret that as much, and I have Killer on mine too, hopefully he doesn't come out and play great.
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i'd reconsider putting Upmagic in the lineup.he's been removed from the ESTRO R4 roster.
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dude you have a minimum limit of 13 points to spend on your anti team and somehow you decided to choose 25. all i can say,bravo.
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take out lux he's not in the roster
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you might wanna remove Luxury.KT just removed them from the roster.plus idk if CJ is a good choice considering their recent performances.but you never know.
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remove Best and pick Yoonjoong.
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On April 09 2010 01:34 whiterabbit wrote:Here is my team: Jefferson AirplaneMain Team4 Baby3 Best2 Hydra8 Light3 YoonJoong7 Zero (captain) 3 CJ EntusAnti Team2 Flying6 Really5 SkyhighI am playing FantasyPL for first time and I didn't follow the scene much lately, any suggestions would be welcome!  GL HF everyone! ;-)
Really did really well last season and he will probably play every single game for Estro this season, not the best choice for Anti IMO.
Flying will probably see lots of action too. but still, estro will also lose lots of game
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On April 09 2010 01:39 FaCE_1 wrote:Really did really well last season and he will probably play every single game for Estro this season, not the best choice for Anti IMO. Flying will probably see lots of action too. but still, estro will also lose lots of game 
Thank you mate! Gonna reconsider my AT again. :-)
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On April 09 2010 01:37 BloodDrunK wrote:remove Best and pick Yoonjoong.
:o any difference between two of them?
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On April 09 2010 01:34 whiterabbit wrote:Here is my team: Jefferson AirplaneMain Team4 Baby3 Best2 Hydra8 Light3 YoonJoong7 Zero (captain) 3 CJ EntusAnti Team2 Flying6 Really5 SkyhighI am playing FantasyPL for first time and I didn't follow the scene much lately, any suggestions would be welcome!  GL HF everyone! ;-)
CJ Entus has been doing really bad lately and you can afford Woojing Stars for same price and Woonjing Stars has really good roster and has been doing extremely well.
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i've been thinking of having baby on the main team. wouldn't fox want baby to focus more on the osl and msl? i mean they have mind and midas for T's so they might just have baby as their last resort rather than a regular and ace player.
unless baby can manage all 3 leagues like flash/jd have in the past
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Colossus[Dom]
Main Team 3 Action 12 Flash (captain) 5 Free 3 Guemchi 2 Hyvaa 2 Lomo 3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team 7 Bisu 3 Hogil 3 Yarnc
Are all of my Main team players on rosters? I don't know where I can check that sort of thing.
Also im baffled at why some people's anti-teams have all 3 beasts of Jaedong, Flash, and Light on it..
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(Hopefully) Final Draft, unless something crazy happens.
Brown Bears
Main Team 4 Baby (captain) 3 Best 3 ForGG 8 Light 2 Midas 7 Zero 3 WeMade FOX
Anti Team 7 Bisu 4 Movie 2 PerfectMan
Players: Baby's on a mega-hot streak right now, Light's a proleague monster, and Zero is just so gosh-darn adorable. As far as the rest of my team goes, after Midas 2-0'd his MSL group that included Flash of all people, I have a feeling he'll at least get a ton of playing time behind Baby, if nothing else, and for 2 points, he can very easily earn it back with a couple wins. Best is mostly on there because he's a reasonably safe play and I needed a Protoss, and ForGG is there because he'll get playtime, and KT will get wins, and he's cheap.
Team: This is mostly team loyalty more than anything else, but I think behind the surging Baby, resurgent Midas and at least somewhat decent Pure, WeMade is going to be at least respectable this season. We'll see.
Anti: All-Toss anti ftw! Bisu is extremely overpriced for a player who's essentially over the hill, and he performed terribly last Proleague, so I feel pretty safe here. Movie's score also seems artificially inflated due to his ridiculous performance of yesteryear (2nd in the OSL? Wut?), so he also will hopefully disappoint. And to round it out... Perfectman's just terrible. Nuff said.
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Instead of Jaehoon, why not pick some bench player worth 1 point who will never play, for your anti-team? Not to mention he's on MBC, so most likely he will get some team points..
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lol... everyone beating up on Bisu. cant say i blame them with the abysmal performance he showed last night.
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On April 09 2010 05:02 Chen wrote: lol... everyone beating up on Bisu. cant say i blame them with the abysmal performance he showed last night. Well... considering he had a break with probably no practice at all I wouldn`t judge him on this. I guess we`ll see.
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AmazingOopah
Main Team 4 Baby 3 ForGG 6 Really (captain) 4 Violet 3 YoonJoong 7 Zero 3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team 7 Bisu 4 Movie 2 PerfectMan
think I have some nice values with my main team... was originally going with light and sea but they left me with fewer options. Baby, forGG, Violet and Shuttle have a good chance to produce above their values.
bisu is in shambles right now, he's an excellent pick up at 7. PerfectMan should see little play for OZ although he might get his share of team points.
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Heh, after I realized I will be very bad at this FantasyPL thingie (actually I don't know how this is going to work, things like trading etc... well, no biggie, I am playing Fantasy games for the first time) so I decided to go with some crazy / funny setup and see how things will go for a first timer. 
Jefferson Airplane
Main Team 4 Baby 3 ForGG 8 Light 6 Sea 3 YoonJoong 7 Zero (captain) -1 Air Force ACE
Anti Team 7 Bisu 5 Skyhigh 1 UpMagic
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On April 09 2010 03:19 The-Dom wrote:Colossus[Dom]Main Team3 Action12 Flash (captain) 5 Free3 Guemchi2 Hyvaa2 Lomo3 Woongjin StarsAnti Team7 Bisu3 Hogil3 YarncAre all of my Main team players on rosters? I don't know where I can check that sort of thing. Also im baffled at why some people's anti-teams have all 3 beasts of Jaedong, Flash, and Light on it..
Yeah, all of those players should get a lot of games, although Lomo and GuemChi might get a little less then the others but still a lot.
As for the Jaedong/Flash/Light question, its because they are being idiots. They know they'll play fairly good so they are making a losing team...
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Guys .. your thoughts on this please .. IMO bisu played poorly because of the lack of practice when he was in vacation .. will this coming season be any different? or he will be back in his shape? if he doesn't will Khan be a good choice instead of SKT?
Damn it if Bisu Fails
Main Team 7 Bisu 8 Fantasy (captain) 3 Firebathero 5 Kwanro 2 Midas 1 Thezerg 4 SK Telecom T1
Anti Team 7 Effort 10 Jaedong 7 Kal
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On April 09 2010 11:14 aimaimaim wrote:Guys .. your thoughts on this please .. IMO bisu played poorly because of the lack of practice when he was in vacation .. will this coming season be any different? or he will be back in his shape? if he doesn't will Khan be a good choice instead of SKT? Damn it if Bisu FailsMain Team7 Bisu8 Fantasy (captain) 3 Firebathero5 Kwanro2 Midas1 Thezerg4 SK Telecom T1Anti Team7 Effort10 Jaedong7 Kal
You don't have to spend so many point in your anti team man. You only have to make 13 points.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Just watch out for Really, he's going to be playing every match for eSTRO since he's a solid macro terran... Otherwise I think it looks aight.
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flash and jaedon for anti team?
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On April 09 2010 11:28 baeracaed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 11:14 aimaimaim wrote:Guys .. your thoughts on this please .. IMO bisu played poorly because of the lack of practice when he was in vacation .. will this coming season be any different? or he will be back in his shape? if he doesn't will Khan be a good choice instead of SKT? Damn it if Bisu FailsMain Team7 Bisu8 Fantasy (captain) 3 Firebathero5 Kwanro2 Midas1 Thezerg4 SK Telecom T1Anti Team7 Effort10 Jaedong7 Kal You don't have to spend so many point in your anti team man. You only have to make 13 points.
Yeah, rofl.. Jaedong and Kal will both play good, as for Effort I'm not sure about him... Hes been bad lately, he's on my Anti-team too.
As for Bisu, I believe hes past his time.. He's losing everything now even when he was practicing, so I think he'll only win a game here and there, deffinatly not worth 7 points, more like 4-5. So, I think KHAN will do better then SKT because KHAN has Stork/Jangbi/Great who should do pretty well, where SKT only has Fantasy/Hyuk really. (Best has been playing badly lately aswell, and Canata sucks atm, and you know the story on Bisu. Also, Fantasy hasn't been in good shape so hes more like 6 points right now, not 8. Hyuk is only really the player who has been going good on SKT.)
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On April 09 2010 11:57 wysley wrote:flash and jaedon for anti team?
Rofl, yeah.... Flash, Jaedong and Leta anti-team is autolose.
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I think the guys who are putting Flash/Jaedong on their anti-team are competing for last place... isn't that what some people did last season?
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My Legacy
Main Team 3 ForGG 5 Free (captain) 2 Hyuk 8 Light 2 Pure 4 Violet 6 KT Rolster
Anti Team 1 BackHo 10 Jaedong 2 Juni
Here's my new team, ForGG will be a good deal for his price if he keeps up his performance from winner's league. Free is a solid player and star's main toss. Hyuk is a sniper and gets some wins, best 2 point zerg as I need a zerg in my team. Light is a proleague monster. Pure being only worth 2 points is quite a good deal. Violet, I like him and I'm hoping KT sends him out a lot.
As for my Anti Team, I took a bit of a gamble. I'm just hoping that Jaedong doesn't do well and then I just put two random players that don't see much playtime.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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On April 09 2010 10:43 Glowingammo wrote:Yeah, all of those players should get a lot of games, although Lomo and GuemChi might get a little less then the others but still a lot. As for the Jaedong/Flash/Light question, its because they are being idiots. They know they'll play fairly good so they are making a losing team... ok, thanks for the feedback!
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i want to put stork on my main team but i'm gonna wait til after his osl match to really see how well he is atm
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thanks for making Bisu 7, makes antiteam easy this season!
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why the barrack's links is linked to a retired player?? lol~~
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On April 09 2010 13:42 Nemesis wrote:My LegacyMain Team3 ForGG5 Free (captain) 2 Hyuk8 Light2 Pure4 Violet6 KT RolsterAnti Team1 BackHo10 Jaedong2 JuniHere's my new team, ForGG will be a good deal for his price if he keeps up his performance from winner's league. Free is a solid player and star's main toss. Hyuk is a sniper and gets some wins, best 2 point zerg as I need a zerg in my team. Light is a proleague monster. Pure being only worth 2 points is quite a good deal. Violet, I like him and I'm hoping KT sends him out a lot. As for my Anti Team, I took a bit of a gamble. I'm just hoping that Jaedong doesn't do well and then I just put two random players that don't see much playtime. Jaedong may not play too well, but he will sure play a lot and win quite a bit of games. Not sure about Juni, should be fairly save.
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On April 09 2010 16:45 krndandaman wrote:krndandamanMain Team4 Baby1 MVP2 Pure6 Sea (captain) 7 Stork7 Zero3 Woongjin StarsAnti Team7 Bisu3 Modesty3 MuchThis is my team. Any thoughts? Also thinking about switching Modesty/Much on anti to Savior/Hoejja Should I make the switch or stick with Modesty/Much? Modesty - won't be played much, only good at zvz (STX has calm, kal, hwasin, shuttle) will get decent amount of team points >_< Much - will play, but won't win much. won't really get team points either. Savior- will not play at all, if ever. minimal team points Hoejja- won't be played much, and won't win much. KT wins will give him points tho
Very very strong team in my opinion, all the Stork, ZerO, Sea, Baby and Pure should get a lot of games, and MVP might get a few.
As for the Anti-team, Much is the best player on ACE so he will always be played.. But out of your two choices, I'd go with Modesty/Much instead of HoeJJa/Savior.
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Gosuness
Main Team 4 Baby (captain) 3 Firebathero 7 Kal 4 Killer 2 Midas 4 Movie 6 KT Rolster
Anti Team 2 Anytime 7 Bisu 4 Mind
Baby seems very good shape, he is young and up and coming, is there one time he is going to come trough and show his rise in the scene to an S class player it must be now! All of my other players are doing fairly well, aswell as most of them can be considered ACE material. Anti team was an easy pick tbh. Bisu is horrible these days.
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Blue Blink
Main Team 7 Calm 0 Casy 12 Flash (captain) 1 GoRush 10 Jaedong 1 Reach -1 Air Force ACE
Anti Team 7 Bisu 7 Effort 7 Stork
ok I hope this is gonna be final .. please feed back :D
i dont like JD on my team but he delivers so .. meh ..
notice the anti-team .. do i still need to change them? watching how stork earlier and bisu yesterday is a pain ..
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after not qualifying for the MSL .. lost all hope for the revolutionist .. he is too expensive and his condition now is a real pain to watch ..
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Maybe, if Effort can recover from slump.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On April 09 2010 20:02 aimaimaim wrote:Blue BlinkMain Team7 Calm0 Casy12 Flash (captain) 1 GoRush10 Jaedong1 Reach-1 Air Force ACEAnti Team7 Bisu7 Effort7 Storkok I hope this is gonna be final .. please feed back :D i dont like JD on my team but he delivers so .. meh .. notice the anti-team .. do i still need to change them? watching how stork earlier and bisu yesterday is a pain .. Well, your anti-team needs to only be 13 points... even though Bisu and EffOrt are slumping they are still worth a ton, and if they start winning you won't be able to trade them. Best to keep Bisu and trade for a combination of 6 points (3 and 3 methinks) so that if even if those guys start tearing it up, you can trade them back for one of the higher-ups that is slumping.
Also, Jaedong and Flash are both too expensive by expected value formulas (expected point to be won / (5*player cost) to be worth 22 points... and Calm chokes. Your Ace players won't earn you many points, and having ACE as a team might actually cost you points, and you won't be able to trade them away.
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i'm stuck between calm or kal cause i like calm but kal seems to be a better choice =/
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what's up with the Pure train that everyone's hopping on? He went 0-3 last season
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On April 09 2010 20:02 aimaimaim wrote:Blue BlinkMain Team7 Calm0 Casy12 Flash (captain) 1 GoRush10 Jaedong1 Reach-1 Air Force ACEAnti Team7 Bisu7 Effort7 Storkok I hope this is gonna be final .. please feed back :D i dont like JD on my team but he delivers so .. meh .. notice the anti-team .. do i still need to change them? watching how stork earlier and bisu yesterday is a pain .. LOL I really like you're main team style, even willing to take ACE. I hope you do well.
Also, you're anti-team only needs to be 13 points, you have 21, so I would trade out like stork or effort for some lower guys.
For your anti-team: You want players to do worse than last season, but not only relative to themselves, you also want the players to do poorly in general/never play/be on a losing team.
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My first ever fantasy team
Team Awkward
Main Team 4 Baby 8 Fantasy (captain) 5 Free 6 Sea 1 Soulkey 3 YoonJoong 3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team 7 Effort 4 Hoejja 2 Juni
Could maybe be better by switching Fantasy for Zero and then upgrading Soulkey to Firefirst or something. Or maybe switch Free for Action and then Soulkey for either Best/ForGG/Firebathero. But gotte go with my favorite players :D
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Sea plus Really going to net you a lot of points haha. Flying should also see some playing time.
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EDIT:
Deleted my team because I just read the bold red text that you're not supposed to post your team unless you have an insightful, deep, and/or long analysis.
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Well this is the first time Im playing this so I hope my team isnt that bad.
Main Team 12 Flash (Captain) 5 Kwanro 4 BaBy 3 GuemChi 2 Hyuk 1 Barracks 3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team 7 EffOrt 2 Iris 4 HoeJJa
I have a few doubts about my team. First Im not sure if GuemChi is actually good (saw is record and thought that it was worth its 3 pts) but Im not sure about him.
Second I like the rest of my main team but i dont know if the best pick is Barracks or Neo.G.Soulkey. What do you guys think?
My anti hurts me a little bit because im a CJ fan but I believe EffOrt is going to have a bad PL round so thats why he is there. HoeJJa has some potential but I hope he doesnt get to play or win that much >
Any advice for me? Tks in advance! Looking forward to SPL
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On April 07 2010 01:56 C0rrupt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 01:49 KwarK wrote: After years of being confused about what exactly Fantasy Proleague involved I've finally decided to give it a try. And put JD on my antiteam! JD on Anti Team O_O JD on my antiteam as well First ever fantasy choices and i JUST say that they end in three hours. Didn't know they were even up yet haha
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So, I'm looking for some simple advice.
Is my new roster better or worse than my old one? I changed Pure out for Hyuk, and CJ Entus for Woongjin Stars. On my anti-team I changed out Hiya for Bisu, and changed Killer out for Ruby.
Old team: + Show Spoiler + New team: Main Team 4 Baby 3 ForGG 3 Great 2 Hyuk 7 Kal 8 Light (captain) 3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team 7 Bisu 3 Hogil 3 Ruby
I have no idea what I'm doing, but it's fun.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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las few minutes to go~~~~
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i have the same anti team ! EDIT: oh. no i don't. i HAD the same one, then i put violet instead of killer.
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it says fantasy signups are closed, but i can still edit my team... I hope it doesn't actually record the changes since one of the matches has already been finished.
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I think the loser of SAMSUNG in set 3 today should be reality, not rarity
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Braavos36374 Posts
On April 11 2010 15:22 frank0406 wrote:I think the loser of SAMSUNG in set 3 today should be reality, not rarity  sorry about that, will change it as soon as we can
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aaaa, why is trading closed so early this week...
[Mod edit: Updated trading period, open for another 13 hours]
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Special thx! It's really cool
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Netherlands4834 Posts
On April 11 2010 16:59 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 15:22 frank0406 wrote:I think the loser of SAMSUNG in set 3 today should be reality, not rarity  sorry about that, will change it as soon as we can How about the banner? I think Luxury should be taken out/replaced imho...
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On May 25 2010 06:06 andynewin wrote: how do I make a team? You wait until the end of this round and make a team for Round 5. (Which is coming very soon!)
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