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The Liquipedia Review - Volume VI

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The Liquipedia Review - Volume VI

Text byImperator
February 18th, 2010 11:13 GMT
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The Liquipedia Review - Volume VI

Brought to you by mikeymoo and Imperator

Howdy folks! It's been quite some time. Settle in, grab a mug of hot chocolate (If you're in the Northern Hemisphere), and find out what's going on in our world of puzzle pieces. If you didn't already know, the SC2 Beta is live, and this will be the final Review that limits itself to SC1.

1. Puzzle Pieces!

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You may have seen some cool looking icons around! These neat little icons are for the Liquipedia team members who joined in after Liquipedia's inception. They are good people to go to if you have any questions about Liquipedia. So congratulations to (Wiki)Pholon, (Wiki)Imperator, (Wiki)Mystlord, and (Wiki)Ver.

Also, most of us are still available for questions in channel #liquipedia. The guide on how to hop onto IRC is located (Wiki)here. Drop us a line if you have any questions whatsoever about the wiki. We get lonely sometimes, too.

2. Maps by the Year

We are so close to completion! We've looked everywhere for two maps: Fire Ground and Isaac Newton. Even the Korean members of TL are having difficulties tracking these down! Please, does anybody have either of these maps?

If not, just enjoy this article on which maps have been used over the years. Even the best of the best can't catch them all. (Wiki)Click me!

Most of the thanks go to (Wiki)Butterbrain and (Wiki)Slugbreath.

3. Liquipidization
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And in a (Wiki)Flash of (Wiki)Yellow (Wiki)Light, (Wiki)Jaedong made the (Wiki)Silver (Wiki)Sea (Wiki)Calm. Try out the new wiki button! A (Wiki)Major thanks to resident coder PoP! You (Wiki)Rock! Check it out. (Wiki)Really.

What if the Liquipedia page doesn't match exactly what you want to type? Check it out:
[wiki]Boxer[/wiki]
[wiki=Boxer]Emperor[/wiki]

(Wiki)Boxer
(Wiki)Emperor

We have also added a Liquipedia link on all TLPD Player pages. This enables you to access the Liquipedia article of any player from their TLPD page.

Take a look:

+ Show Spoiler [TLPD] +

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4. User in Spotlight

An interview with Nonduc. Get to know the guy behind the (Wiki)Jaedong article!
+ Show Spoiler [Interview] +

LP: First, give us an overview of yourself.

Nonduc: I'm from St. Petersburg, Russia. I am a few years older than the OnGameNet trio of Jeon Yong Jun, Kim Do Hyoung, and Um Jaek Young.

I played Starcraft back in 1998, but my gaming was quite limited and I did not participate in the ladders or in LAN competitions. I actually play very few computer games at all, except for StarCraft. However, I have a lot of experience as a fan. For many many years I watched football, boxing and other sports. I have been interested in the Korean pro-scene since the days of Lim Yo Hwan in WCG, but not as closely as in the past two or three years. The overall level of play has risen significantly (as it has for me). VODs are also of higher quality, something which is important to the fans, who do not have access to Korean cable TV.

LP: How did you find Teamliquid and Liquipedia?

Nonduc: It was not difficult, considering how few good news sites and forums there are devoted to professional StarСraft outside of Korea. It is hard to pass Reps.Ru when you want to read something in Russian, and you can not get past TL.Net if you are interested in the opinion of the international community or in fresh translations.

I watched Liquipedia from the moment of its foundation. Generally speaking, I look at wiki projects with a fair amount of distrust when it comes to science, art or history. StarCraft is significantly different. It requires a certain level of preparation on the part of the audience — the higher the understanding, the better one understands not only the subtleties of play, but the overall game picture. It is a mixture of joy, fear, hope, wonder and a million other emotions which create the miracle of "good game". But knowledge without knowledge of emotions is meaningless. I am always annoyed to see a disparaging assessment of some mirror matchup because it shows the limited culture of fans. Thus, knowledge is needed. However, the forum is not suited to make this knowledge easily changable and conveniently accessable.Liquipedia deos what the forum and the database can not do separately, i.e. provide general, special or statistical data and their interpretation together.

LP: Why did you decide to work on the Jaedong article?

Nonduc: It was by accident rather than intentional. On the one hand, I have had some statistical compilations, which I used in the OP “501 Games: Jaedong vs. Progamers”. On the other hand, I was greatly troubled that the section “Rivalries” has not even a hint of Song Byung Goo. And I add something… and then another… and a little bit. That’s all.

LP: Do you have any other projects in mind on Liquipedia? Other players, perhaps?

Nonduc: I think that Jaedong’s article would be a good starting point for me in order to improve the other articles, no matter whether they are devoted to the players, maps, strategy, or tournaments. In any encyclopedia everything is interconnected. As in the game, all the constituent parts interact with one another, beginning with the skills of players and finishing with the reactions of the public. If I think of something new for the article, and it receives support and approval from the Liquipedia team, then it can be used to develop the project as a whole. And I hope that this will not only attract new readers, but new staff too. Liquipedia is doomed without development and success.

LP: What advice do you have for new users looking to contribute to the wiki?

Nonduc: All you need is attention and the desire to improve. If you like Starcraft, then try to make articles more accessable to new fans. If you see that on any page, something is missing, just add this. Just do it. Hmm, I have not turned out advice, but appeal.

LP: And that concludes the interview. Do you have any final thoughts?

Nonduc: Only that the project is just beginning and we have a lot of work ahead.


5. Promotions

Throughout the last month, we have welcomed three new editors to our fold: Nonduc, Butterbrain, and Julmust. Each has contributed to Liquipedia in big ways. (Wiki)Nonduc made the (Wiki)Jaedong article (Wiki)great with his actively updated statictics and demostration games. We have (Wiki)Julmust to thank for the majority of the content in the (Wiki)TSL and the (Wiki)ESL (Wiki)Majors pages, as well as making a page for our very own (Wiki)Chill. (Wiki)Butterbrain has added much to the map sections and given the (Wiki)mapmakers the recognition they deserve.

Poll!

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Poll: How many Games of the Day have you seen?
(Vote): None.
(Vote): 1-3
(Vote): 4-7
(Vote): 8-10
(Vote): All of them.

Cheers, Liquipedia Staff


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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 18 2010 11:20 GMT
#2
These forum-features are really great and Nonduc is amazing.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8079 Posts
February 18 2010 11:26 GMT
#3
I always wondered what Isaac Newton looked like.. hopefully someone out there has it.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9050 Posts
February 18 2010 11:43 GMT
#4
Where to watch game of the year?
Kenpachi
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United States9908 Posts
February 18 2010 11:46 GMT
#5
i love (Wiki)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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February 18 2010 12:17 GMT
#6
sick update
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Australia6120 Posts
February 18 2010 12:31 GMT
#7
Awesome!
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Poland17831 Posts
February 18 2010 12:32 GMT
#8
Damn, TL.net has gone a long way this past 6 years. My hat is off to you, gentlemen.
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Australia1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 12:43:12
February 18 2010 12:40 GMT
#9
I know it's a very very minor thing, but the menu bar is broken in Google Chrome browser, it shifts waaay down the page (on the left hand side of course) If you want a screenie let me know.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 18 2010 12:41 GMT
#10
On February 18 2010 21:40 Duckvillelol wrote:
I know it's a very very minor thing, but the menu bar is broken in Google Chrome browser, it shifts waaay down the page (on the left hand side of course)

We are aware of this issue and will try to fix it over the weekend.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 18 2010 12:43 GMT
#11
Sweet thanks
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Vibes
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany144 Posts
February 18 2010 12:55 GMT
#12
What about Couleen?+ Show Spoiler +
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I don't see this map in the list either.
Just another Jaedong fanboy <3
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
February 18 2010 13:14 GMT
#13
(Wiki)Coulee as well as the other maps released for the (Wiki)Mystery Map Invitational aren't on the list since that tournament isn't listed in the TLPD.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 18 2010 13:27 GMT
#14
On February 18 2010 22:14 Slugbreath wrote:
(Wiki)Coulee as well as the other maps released for the (Wiki)Mystery Map Invitational aren't on the list since that tournament isn't listed in the TLPD.

Wtf, we have an article on the Mystery Map Invitational??
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
February 18 2010 15:13 GMT
#15
Liquipedia: Larger than even Aesop knows.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 18 2010 15:18 GMT
#16
On February 18 2010 22:27 Aesop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2010 22:14 Slugbreath wrote:
(Wiki)Coulee as well as the other maps released for the (Wiki)Mystery Map Invitational aren't on the list since that tournament isn't listed in the TLPD.

Wtf, we have an article on the Mystery Map Invitational??


slugbreath is on the ball.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
February 18 2010 15:40 GMT
#17
you guys rock
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 18 2010 15:40 GMT
#18
the jaedong article is such a mosnter
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
February 18 2010 15:44 GMT
#19
On February 19 2010 00:40 alffla wrote:
the jaedong article is such a mosnter
not yet
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 18 2010 17:39 GMT
#20
im a star!!!!!
this is awesome =]
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Ideas
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United States8174 Posts
February 18 2010 17:59 GMT
#21
sigh, I wish I still had time to keep writing stuff in there like I did during the summer :\
Free Palestine
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
February 18 2010 18:12 GMT
#22
On February 19 2010 02:59 Ideas wrote:
sigh, I wish I still had time to keep writing stuff in there like I did during the summer :\


I'm thinking that SCII is going to bring everyone out of retirement
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
February 18 2010 21:14 GMT
#23
On February 19 2010 02:39 Chill wrote:
im a star!!!!!
this is awesome =]

No dawg you're a beér
In the woods, there lurks..
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 18 2010 22:12 GMT
#24
On February 19 2010 06:14 Iplaythings wrote:
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On February 19 2010 02:39 Chill wrote:
im a star!!!!!
this is awesome =]

No dawg you're a beér

ok so it's not just me that thought it was supposed to be a beer...
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 18 2010 23:14 GMT
#25
FML. No one is checking the game of the day. Makes me sad.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
February 18 2010 23:45 GMT
#26
On February 19 2010 08:14 Mystlord wrote:
FML. No one is checking the game of the day. Makes me sad.

It's not that bad. After all roughly 50% of those who have answered thus far have watched at least one of them. Given that one doesn't have to frequent Liquipedia to take the poll I don't think that the results are that bad.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
February 19 2010 02:24 GMT
#27
wow great work!!!
nice touch on the trivia of jaedong never did notice flash never beat jaedong in a best of 5
hmmmm cause for a celebration if the 2 reach a final
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 19 2010 04:54 GMT
#28
A bit off topic, but are you guys starting sc2 articles?
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
February 19 2010 08:35 GMT
#29
On February 19 2010 13:54 Chairman Ray wrote:
A bit off topic, but are you guys starting sc2 articles?

Don't know if I'm allowed to say, my good friend. (Where did you get 35 posts?)
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