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On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_-
because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do.
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too bad im fucking terrible at the game and wouldnt be able to commentate cause that jacket is cool as fuck
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Uhh, the only thing that will affect if I will try this or not is if you will release the casted games to the rest here on TL after the Contest?
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On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do.
LOL I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
Anyways, looking forward to this. Good luck all participants.
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On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do.
You say that with such confidence..
I can't help but like those guys (diggity, moletrap, etc), but a person like Day9 who is witty, a great speaker, strategically way beyond Moletrap & friends (because he actually plays the game at a high level).. how do you beat the perfect combo? You don't, unless your audience doesn't know the game well enough to tell good analysis from mediocre insight..
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On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do.
Ahaha, now restrain from posting =]
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Yess I will definitely do this  Ty TL.
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On January 08 2010 08:09 wadadde wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do. You say that with such confidence.. I can't help but like those guys (diggity, moletrap, etc), but a person like Day9 who is witty, a great speaker, strategically way beyond Moletrap & friends (because he actually plays the game at a high level).. how do you beat the perfect combo? You don't, unless your audience doesn't know the game well enough to tell good analysis from mediocre insight..
What does playing the game at a high level have to do with anything? They're commentating starcraft, not playing it. All you need for a great commentary is a nice voice and positive energy. Diggity has both. Sure he may not be the highest ranked ICCUP player but he can still understand 90% of what goes on in a progaming match just from having so much experience, reading forums and thinking about strategical issues.
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On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_-
Easy: because they constantly introduce a lot of new people to the game, who would never pick up on following korean starcraft if it was only accessible to them with korean casting. (and Day[9] has only started commentating as of late as far as i know.)
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On January 08 2010 08:20 jkim89 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 08:09 wadadde wrote:On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do. You say that with such confidence.. I can't help but like those guys (diggity, moletrap, etc), but a person like Day9 who is witty, a great speaker, strategically way beyond Moletrap & friends (because he actually plays the game at a high level).. how do you beat the perfect combo? You don't, unless your audience doesn't know the game well enough to tell good analysis from mediocre insight.. What does playing the game at a high level have to do with anything? They're commentating starcraft, not playing it. All you need for a great commentary is a nice voice and positive energy. Diggity has both. Sure he may not be the highest ranked ICCUP player but he can still understand 90% of what goes on in a progaming match just from having so much experience, reading forums and thinking about strategical issues. I like Diggity and Moletrap a lot, but I don't see how anyone reasonable can say that they understand what's going on even half as well as Day[9] does.
Day's analysis is simply on another level.
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On January 08 2010 07:44 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 07:40 micronesia wrote:On January 08 2010 07:38 Response wrote:
can we do dual commentaries? I'd assume yes but that makes the prize tricky if there is more than one tl user! Mod answer? Dual commentaries are okay, but we're not giving you two prizes 
Cholera and Rise please participate in this contest!
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IMO Cholera would win it, but he's been inactive for over a month...
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On January 08 2010 08:27 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 08:20 jkim89 wrote:On January 08 2010 08:09 wadadde wrote:On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do. You say that with such confidence.. I can't help but like those guys (diggity, moletrap, etc), but a person like Day9 who is witty, a great speaker, strategically way beyond Moletrap & friends (because he actually plays the game at a high level).. how do you beat the perfect combo? You don't, unless your audience doesn't know the game well enough to tell good analysis from mediocre insight.. What does playing the game at a high level have to do with anything? They're commentating starcraft, not playing it. All you need for a great commentary is a nice voice and positive energy. Diggity has both. Sure he may not be the highest ranked ICCUP player but he can still understand 90% of what goes on in a progaming match just from having so much experience, reading forums and thinking about strategical issues. I like Diggity and Moletrap a lot, but I don't see how anyone reasonable can say that they understand what's going on even half as well as Day[9] does. Day's analysis is simply on another level.
Yeah, but Moletrap/Diggity mostly do play by play. Isn't there a difference?
No, they dont massive amounts of A level knowledge like Day, but they are pretty damn good at talking about the game as opposed to analyzation.
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On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_-
haha seriously
On January 08 2010 08:20 jkim89 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 08:09 wadadde wrote:On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do. You say that with such confidence.. I can't help but like those guys (diggity, moletrap, etc), but a person like Day9 who is witty, a great speaker, strategically way beyond Moletrap & friends (because he actually plays the game at a high level).. how do you beat the perfect combo? You don't, unless your audience doesn't know the game well enough to tell good analysis from mediocre insight.. What does playing the game at a high level have to do with anything? They're commentating starcraft, not playing it. All you need for a great commentary is a nice voice and positive energy. Diggity has both. Sure he may not be the highest ranked ICCUP player but he can still understand 90% of what goes on in a progaming match just from having so much experience, reading forums and thinking about strategical issues.
It's tough to talk about those "90%" since you just pulled that number out of your ass but the fact is that commentators like day9 and artosis add SO much more strategical depth to their commentaries and people like diggity and moletrap often dont even just lack the strategical depth but simply say things that are wrong.
I still like them.. well maybe not moletrap but I like diggity and cholera in terms of voice and speaking skills, and I think the fact that they do what they do is great because it brings more people to starcraft, hell I'm probably one of them, but it's just frustrating when they say things that are wrong or make it sound like they dont know anything about the game.
Anyways we dont need another sc2gg discussion thread and I'm sorry for derailing, it's just.. when somebody talks about how they are miles ahead of someone like day9 thats just.. ugh..
(I bet the guy who said day9 is horribly unprofessional was a combat-ex fan)
I hope that when diggity and others enter they dont automatically get the win cause their famous, would seem wrong to not allow them to participate though.
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Really looking forward to watching this one, gogogo!
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Wohoo! This is going to be fun. I'm actually decent at talking, but have very shallow knowledge of Starcraft, I'm participating just for the lulz anyway=).
GL and HF!
edit: probably, maybe participating
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I find most casting like listening to football on the radio, lots of excitement and play by play reporting but that's about it. And given that I watch vods rather than listen to them I don't really need that. If something is exciting I'll get excited without someone telling me to. If something happens on screen I'll see it for myself. Because of this I never really got into casting. I can appreciate that they're good at what they're doing but it's just not for me. Whereas Day9 is interesting because he breaks shit down. He combines all the passion and fluidity of other commentators with the knowledge of the metagame and ability to explain it. That's way more interesting for me.
I suspect it's just a personal preference issue though.
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On January 08 2010 06:48 Diggity wrote:
Would it be unfair to enter?
Yeah, don't make it too easy for everyone else. It's supposed to be a contest, not a domination.
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i would really like if this event would bring back Cholera.
Klazart doesnt have a chanse, there' s a huge anti-fan club of him here around TL.
Diggity should take it.
And those who say the sc2gg casters are better than the professional ones, just don't know what are they talking about. I love all of them, but it's just stupid to compare a ~ B iccup ranked (or even former WCG USA winners) professional/experienced caster with those who do this just for fun and arent very good at starcraft.
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On January 08 2010 07:22 Crt wrote:
Not sure how everyone thinks that day9 commentating is good. His tips might be good but the way he comments is utterly unprofessional, ie. making fun of players, making rude and cruel jokes, bashing them, turning camera in the middle to feature his face, offering biased viewpoints, blah blah. Jeez, can't stand it.
For example, Olympics games's commentators are very professional, offering unbiased views, and never do any of such childish acts.
Another example is that when Tasteless and/or Artosis were commentating GOMTV games, they were very professional. Imagine if they make childish jokes, they would never get hired in the first place.
But that's what we like about Day[9] I don't watch SC with commentary to hear professionalism it's to be entertained and sometimes learn some stuff with which Day[9] does a superb job.
On January 08 2010 08:20 jkim89 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 08:09 wadadde wrote:On January 08 2010 07:59 jkim89 wrote:On January 08 2010 07:50 foeffa wrote:
Why is it that every time someone drops the word "commentator" a bunch of 5-post people crawl out of the woodwork to profess their love for Diggity/Moletrap/Klazart and the likes and compare them to awesome casters like Day[9]. -_- because they are the best around? Don't like Klazart personally but Diggity/Moletrap are the absolute best at what they do. You say that with such confidence.. I can't help but like those guys (diggity, moletrap, etc), but a person like Day9 who is witty, a great speaker, strategically way beyond Moletrap & friends (because he actually plays the game at a high level).. how do you beat the perfect combo? You don't, unless your audience doesn't know the game well enough to tell good analysis from mediocre insight.. What does playing the game at a high level have to do with anything? They're commentating starcraft, not playing it. All you need for a great commentary is a nice voice and positive energy. Diggity has both. Sure he may not be the highest ranked ICCUP player but he can still understand 90% of what goes on in a progaming match just from having so much experience, reading forums and thinking about strategical issues.
Yes they know what's going on but who couldn't say 'we have some vultures moving over to 9 o clock those will likely be trying to harass the protoss' economy by killing some probes' but with Day[9] you'd hear something more along the lines of 'now here we see Hiya's vultures going to 9 o clock and as you can see on the minimap the mines here are not only to hold back the protoss from reaching the vultures but also are in a premium position for him to take a 4th base behind them etc. etc. etc.'
It's just so much more in depth and as opposed to saying just what's happening he can explain why it's happening and what they intend to do because of it. I feel like I worded this horribly but what I'm basically trying to say is it's just so much more in depth.
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