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October 27th, 2009 07:54 GMT
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The Legend of the Fall survives. Two Protosses have made it to the Ro16. One is a grizzled old veteran at this point, an intelligent, inconsistent player who has scores of fans who hope he's done messing with their heads this time around. Another is the hope of a race, and possibly the only Protoss who knows how to play PvZ right now. Without further ado, let's take a look at how two Protosses made it and another one fell.

Ro36 map order:
1. Eye of the Storm
2. El Niño
3. Heartbreak Ridge

Recommended games have a * in front of them.


Group D - Recap


(P)JangBi > (T)Barracks
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*(P)JangBi < (T)Barracks
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(P)JangBi > (T)Barracks
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(Z)Kwanro > (P)JangBi
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(Z)Kwanro > (P)JangBi
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Group D was all about (P)JangBi and his continuing slump. Even though Jangbi's best matchup is PvT by far (check TLPD... it's something like 15% better than the two other matchups), he dropped a game to (T)Barracks, a player making his first appearance in any individual league. That's actually for the best, though, since that game was by far the most entertaining of the ones in the set! If you enjoyed Lomo vs Best in the PL playoffs, Jangbi vs Barracks game 2 is worth a watch. Game 3 might be worth watching if only to witness the worst 2 factory build ever executed.

If someone were inclined to make excuses for Jangbi losing that single game, he might claim that Jangbi was simply spending all his practice time on preparing for (Z)Kwanro, a more experienced and probably more dangerous opponent. Kwanro is in a deep slump (he said after the match that he "played... with the determination that I would jump off a bridge if I lost... I desperately needed a win") but his aggressive style is very dangerous for someone who doesn't prepare specifically for it. Kwanro actually departed from his usual style in Game 1. He used an airtight method of positioning his forces to defend all his expansions from Jangbi's main army, and Jangbi played right into it by attacking Kwanro's natural again and again instead of expanding and strengthening his position with reavers or cannons, an oversight that came back to bite him when Kwanro denied his 4th with ease over and over and was able to mount an attack on his third to end the game.

If you like Kwanro's usual style, watch game 2. Kwanro simply made zerglings and won.


Group E - Recap


*(T)sKyHigh < (Z)ggaemo
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(T)sKyHigh < (Z)ggaemo
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(P)Stork > (Z)ggaemo
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*(P)Stork > (Z)ggaemo
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Two royal road candidates went up against each other in the first round of this group. (T)sKyHigh is a player who has only really been consistently good against one race, and that's Terran. Most people figured that he'd beat the no-name zerg (Z)ggaemo and then fall to Stork's monstrous PvT. ggaemo is probably best known for being lampooned in Atrioc's Hwaseung House comic recently... for apparently terrible reasons. While Atrioc implies that ggaemo (what's up with that name, anyway?) doesn't scout or show flexibility in his play, that's exactly what won him the match against skyhigh. In game 1, when skyhigh pulled an Idra by overextending himself and sending two armies one at a time to try and break ggaemo's natural, ggaemo gladly played the role of Xiaozi and backstabbed skyhigh with about 6 lings, which did about 400 mins worth of damage. It was a crucial mistake for skyhigh to send all of his forces out. It's true that he had to send some of them out to keep the fast lurkers from getting out and creating stop lurker madness but he really should have defended better against the backstab.

Skyhigh evened things up by utilizing his first dropship very well, stopping mining for quite a while at one of ggaemo's bases. But dropships would eventually be the death of skyhigh, as none of his later drops did enough damage to justify their cost. If he had spent his later starport production capabilities on vessels, he would have been much better off. But skyhigh impressed me by getting vults with mines as a deterrent against Ultras; they were quite cost effective.

Skyhigh bunkered up hard at his third, which seemed dumb to me. Wouldn't one dark swarm bring all that preparation to naught? Hell, ggaemo didn't even end up using defilers to break that expansion, just ultras and lings.

All in all, it was a really bad TvZ from skyhigh, though worth watching as a spectator. To be honest, he was the one who showed inflexibility in his play, not ggaemo.

In game 2, skyhigh went center rax into failed bunker rush (scouted maphack-early and shut down with great micro by ggaemo) into mech into loss. Skyhigh should have canceled his bunker rush once it was scouted. It seems that he only practiced for the eventuality that everything would go right for him. Of course, maybe he had only been practicing for Stork, in the hopes that ggaemo would pursue a similar practice regimen.

Speaking of (P)Stork, he must have been practicing mainly for skyhigh, so it was interesting to see the relative ease with which he handled ggaemo. DT seems to be the unit of choice for Protosses on Eye of the Storm, probably because the zerg's third is very far away from his main by default. After Stork made an OK incursion with DTs and a good zealot push, I was waiting for ggaemo to make the thematic muta tech switch that has been indispensable in recent PvZ... but it never came. Stork's HTs survived and played a powerful role in the game-ending break of ggaemo's nat. Perhaps ggaemo felt that he really needed a bigger hydra force in order to replenish the losses incurred in Stork's excellent first push. But it doesn't matter how many hydras you make if they all die to storm!

Game 2 was better for OZ's third best zerg. After some good muta harass (which offset losing about 10 drones to DTs earlier), ggaemo turned back Stork's first push . He showed smart play when he split up his army and used misdirection to take out Stork's 4th base. But while ggaemo needed a complex misdirection scheme to stop Stork from expanding, all Stork needed to stymie his opponent was a single zealot, which delayed zerg's 5th base by about a minute. Stork also made up for his delayed expos by making an ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS storm drop and following that up by taking out one of ggaemo's min-onlys. He also took advantage of ggaemo's late hive by cannoning up at his expos hardcore, to prevent zerglings from easily taking them out and evening up the game. All in all, very smart play from Stork... and isn't it that trait that defines him? Maybe he should play EVE instead of WoW.

Wow, I spent a lot of time recapping this group. However, I think every game was worth watching, some for entertainment and some for worthwhile strategic analysis.


Group F - Recap


(T)Light < (P)Movie
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**(T)Light < (P)Movie
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(Z)hero < (P)Movie
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(Z)hero > (P)Movie
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*(Z)hero < (P)Movie
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I actually picked (P)Movie to win this group, and was probably the only non-CJ fan to do so. I liked his chances in the map pool, and thought that if he could beat (T)Light then he could definitely beat hero. Things went bad for Light early... he responded to Movie's double nexus with a half-hearted bunker rush, as if he were simply going through the motions (stimulus: double nex... response: bunker rush). Movie rolled the dice and got away with it: with Light at cross positions, a 2fac wouldn't have worked, so there was effectively no counter. Light just needed to expand ASAP and hope for the best. And he did (after the bunker rush), going expand into fast vessel, a tech that I REALLY liked given Movie's well-known love for arbs.

I thought that the midgame was going to revolve around denying Light's third, but Movie was content to tech up hard with his 2 stargates, hoping that he'd be able to take out Light's third with a recall from one of his many, many arbs. And in fact that is what happened: Movie recalled into, target-fired, and killed the cc. After this, the game was effectively over. Light was on only his nat and main at the 16 minute mark, whereas Movie had ManyBasesYes? A subsequent recall was completely unable to be cleaned up by Light, and he gged even though he had siege control over Movie's gateways.

In game 2, Light was able to gain an advantage early by guessing Movie's tech correctly: he got an early academy and e-bay in response to Movie's fast DTs. Light completely shut down Movie's DTs; they did almost zero damage. Movie went reaver next, which I like on El Niño because of the nat design, and did some significant damage, forcing 2 maynards and killing a few SCVs. Light hard-countered with a wraith and that was the end of that, but not before some sloppy cleanup by Light led to the loss of a couple more SCVs and a tank.

Movie was still appreciably behind at this point: 2 base vs 2 base in PvT is not a good position when tech is equal. Light did his best to hand the game back when he botched a drop, wasting absolutely crucial units that could have been used to defend his third from harass. As it was, Movie shut down Light's third with a shuttle/reaver and a few goons, despite Movie's wraith that was still in action. He killed a few tanks and SCVs in the process and was able to expand in comfort, once after the bad drop and once after the attack on Light's third.

The game moved into a standard Outsider-style PvT, with harass being the name of the game. Movie at one point went for a direct attack on Light's sieged up nat, and it was hard to say who came out ahead: predictably, many goons died, but Movie also weakened Light's tank force significantly using storm.

At this point I'd like to talk about El Niño. I like this map a lot. Like, a lot a lot. Better than Outsider, although it's a little early to be saying that for sure. Many of the little touches make this map special to me, like the unique open design of the nat, and the way that Terran can defend the base opposite his main from his nat with siege tanks, but not lock it down completely a la Destination. Something as simple as that makes for more exciting games, as you'll witness if you watch this VOD.

Anyway, back to the game. Movie made carriers. He also made proxy gates, proxy cannons, does storm drops, and generally abused Protoss the way you have to in order to win PvT. He won and Light was left wondering what the hell happened to his early game advantage.

To be honest, Light showed incredible ineptitude while losing his very large advantage. He seemed to be a player trying to copy Fantasy-style TvP and failing fairly hard. I won't ever liquibet Light if he's playing a decent Protoss from now on. I very much liked Movie's non-use of arbiters in this game: it seems like they're totally unnecessary for harass on this map. In fact, if Movie hadn't gone for any stargate units in this game, I think he might have been better off.

On to (Z)hero! On Eye of the Storm, Protosses can FE very tightly with fast nex, a cannon and a gate, which is tight against 9 pool in cross positions. Not sure about close positions. Regardless, this has led a few zergs to 12 hatch on this map, but that's obviously dangerous because of the threat of 2 gate. I trust Calm to always choose the correct build on any map; he chose to 9 pool and so did his STX teammate hero.

Unfortunately he made a crucial mistake, losing his third to sair/dt. He could have morphed an ovie at the relevant expansion, but instead he morphed 4 hydras with his larvae. A game-ending mistake.

Game 2 I've got to skimp on because I've written too much about this damn group. Movie went heavy sair and it didn't do much. Hero went multidrop into muta tech switch into hydra break into victory.

Game 3 was on Heartbreak Ridge, a map which has been pretty much "figured out" PvZ. Zerg must find a way to either kill Protoss off 3 bases or defend a 4th that is open to attack from multiple angles. Usually this latter task is done with lurkers on the relevant ridge, so Protoss must protect his high templars, and, when he goes for the Zerg's 4th, he must protect his observers from being sniped. Meanwhile, he must protect his own third from rampaging lings.

Of course, all of that goes out the window if Protoss goes corsair/reaver! And that's exactly what Movie did. Early on, he traded a shuttle and a reaver for an expansion-worth of drones. Then he attacked with a bunch of zealots and a shuttle/reaver for anti-hydra support. Hero wisely sent about 10 scourge to kill the shuttle, but he didn't follow up and the slow reaver crawled along with the attack, killing a bunch of hydras and making the attack successful where it otherwise wouldn't have been. After a semi-successful HT drop, Movie pushed with goon temp. Hero made the thematic muta tech switch but Movie, with an absolutely beautiful sequence of storms, made sure that hero lost all of his mutas for 3 of his 5 temps. After that, steadily reinforcing zealots and temps were enough to force the gg from hero.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kr7qxdKp24#t=15m10s
the attack


Phew! That was an extensive writeup, but I'm lucky to get such interesting games to write about. I might as well make the most of it, right? On to the previews!


Group G - Preview


(T)Mind vs (Z)HoGiL
(T)Flash vs Match 1 Winner

Flash is going to win this group. Why should I even write a preview for it? Flash has a 12 game win streak against Terran and has looked AMAZING against zerg lately. I'm sure you've seen Flash vs hero by now, and if you haven't, I invite you to watch it now. I include it here in lieu of a second paragraph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCCSsVi-Yg0



Group H - Preview


(T)firebathero vs (P)Jaehoon
(Z)ZerO vs Match 1 Winner

This is probably the weakest group of the OSL Ro36. The perception is that firebathero is in a major slump, but I'm not so sure that's still true. What has he done that is so bad this season? He lost a close (and very good, go watch it) TvT to Flash, and also lost to Mind, who's best MU is TvT. However, regardless of whether he's still slumping or not, he remains completely terrible at TvP. He recently said this:
- What does Protoss mean to you?
▲ An obstacle in my life ㅡㅡ. StarCraft should have only had Zerg and Terran like WarCraft 2. I don't really want to complain to Blizzard though.

His winrate in TvP is a ridiculously low 37%. He has hope, though, as Jaehoon is simply bad. How a perpetual starter on MBC (though this is changing with the resurgence of (P)Pusan) has such a bad winrate overall (35%) is beyond me. It will be interesting to see which player will out-bad the other.

Zero definitely has the advantage here. He'll be able to practice mostly for FBH, since a) Jaehoon is bad and b) ZerO's best MU is ZvP. FBH seems to be weak to an aggressive zerg style, so I think ZerO will be able to knock him out and avenge MVP, who got eliminated by FBH in the OSL prelims.


Group I - Preview


(Z)Luxury vs (P)GuemChi
(T)Hwasin vs Match 1 Winner

This group looks very interesting compared to the last two. Luxury seems to have broken out of his slump, with only 1 loss in PL since the beginning of the season. GuemChi, on the other hand, has only been sent out once this year, and lost that game. I know because I have him on my Fantasy PL team (FML). I'll use this match to decide whether or not to trade him for Justin or something.

Assuming Luxury beats GuemChi, we'll be seeing Hwasin vs Luxury. Again. These guys are going to meet (probably) for yet another epic (hopefully) Bo3. I'm excited as heck and I hope you are too. Don't pull a Jung Laden, GuemChi!
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
October 27 2009 11:39 GMT
#2
thanks for the recap!

oh man I'm so happy movie made it. with such style too, awesome games
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
October 27 2009 11:44 GMT
#3
Mind is going to roll both HoGiL and FlaSh, You all see, guy has balls :D
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Australia3316 Posts
October 27 2009 11:49 GMT
#4
Yay Movie!!

Awesome writeup thanks a bunch!
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United States5775 Posts
October 27 2009 11:49 GMT
#5
Nice article! Too bad Jangbi didn't make it
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Israel2097 Posts
October 27 2009 12:04 GMT
#6
great write up
really fun reviewing games you saw and read what you guys think about them
luxury vs hwasin should be awesome
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Israel6248 Posts
October 27 2009 12:05 GMT
#7
sweet writeup. hope mind wins
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Singapore66161 Posts
October 27 2009 12:17 GMT
#8
Great read, Movie's games were good. Sad that Skyhigh is still so bad at TvZ T__T

Looking forward to a terrible terrible rape by Flash.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
October 27 2009 12:18 GMT
#9
I'm not sure you can count out Guemchi in the last group...not because he's good, but because if he's not preparing *only* for the OSL, what the hell else is he doing in Woongjin house?

Great writeup as always.
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Australia1764 Posts
October 27 2009 12:33 GMT
#10
Movie played so well. Very impressive.
Looking forward to flash's games and who can out-bad eachother I recon FBH
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United States4324 Posts
October 27 2009 12:47 GMT
#11
Your Flash prediction scares me more for Flash than anything objective I can point to. That much confidence is just asking for an upset.
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United States3111 Posts
October 27 2009 12:57 GMT
#12
On October 27 2009 21:17 konadora wrote:
Great read, Movie's games were good. Sad that Skyhigh is still so bad at TvZ T__T

Looking forward to a terrible terrible rape by Flash.


ugh, how can anyone be bad at TvZ. it's the most imba matchup of all time.
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United States12546 Posts
October 27 2009 13:00 GMT
#13
On October 27 2009 21:57 danl9rm wrote:
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On October 27 2009 21:17 konadora wrote:
Great read, Movie's games were good. Sad that Skyhigh is still so bad at TvZ T__T

Looking forward to a terrible terrible rape by Flash.


ugh, how can anyone be bad at TvZ. it's the most imba matchup of all time.

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Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 27 2009 13:00 GMT
#14
I thought hero was on fire =(
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Thailand7699 Posts
October 27 2009 13:31 GMT
#15
All I know is that Flash will win

I don't know about other groups.
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 27 2009 13:34 GMT
#16
Good article. I really dislike protoss, but id feel pretty bad if all were knocked out of this league. Good to see Stork winning. Hoping FlaSh will walk all over em.
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United States159 Posts
October 27 2009 13:50 GMT
#17
Great write-up! I'm glad to see (P)Movie doing well, though I really hated to see (T)sKyHigh knocked out. JangBi better focus on Proleague now. So far, he's the worst performer on my Fantasly PL Team!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
October 27 2009 13:59 GMT
#18
Everybody shits on ggaemo's name :[ its just his nickname, and probably came from his real name. His name is 김경모 (Kim Kyung Mo or Gim Gyung Mo) and his friends probably called him gaemo alot (I had a friend called 노경모 = No Kyung Mo and we called him Gaengmo) so he just went with gaemo and last initial to make ggaemo. or maybe he thought it would be funny to put an extra g to make it read 'gg' either way dont see why its such a terrible name and ppl should stop giving him crap for that
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10319 Posts
October 27 2009 14:29 GMT
#19
Thanks for the lengthy match descriptions they were much appreciated n_n;
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10319 Posts
October 27 2009 14:30 GMT
#20
On October 27 2009 22:59 rotinegg wrote:
Everybody shits on ggaemo's name :[ its just his nickname, and probably came from his real name. His name is 김경모 (Kim Kyung Mo or Gim Gyung Mo) and his friends probably called him gaemo alot (I had a friend called 노경모 = No Kyung Mo and we called him Gaengmo) so he just went with gaemo and last initial to make ggaemo. or maybe he thought it would be funny to put an extra g to make it read 'gg' either way dont see why its such a terrible name and ppl should stop giving him crap for that

It's more simple than that

Gim Gyung Mo

where the ae comes from I don't know, probably just a filler sound right?
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Latvia2350 Posts
October 27 2009 14:44 GMT
#21
On October 27 2009 22:59 rotinegg wrote:
Everybody shits on ggaemo's name :[ its just his nickname, and probably came from his real name. His name is 김경모 (Kim Kyung Mo or Gim Gyung Mo) and his friends probably called him gaemo alot (I had a friend called 노경모 = No Kyung Mo and we called him Gaengmo) so he just went with gaemo and last initial to make ggaemo. or maybe he thought it would be funny to put an extra g to make it read 'gg' either way dont see why its such a terrible name and ppl should stop giving him crap for that


Its boring and hard to pronounce.
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United States12546 Posts
October 27 2009 14:55 GMT
#22
and it's hell on us semi-dyslexic folks
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9109 Posts
October 27 2009 16:55 GMT
#23
I really want to see Hwasin vs Luxury.
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United States11047 Posts
October 27 2009 17:13 GMT
#24
lol. Wheres that FBH interview. That's absolute quality.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
October 27 2009 17:34 GMT
#25
I like ggaemo's name lol.

Nice writeup, only watched first movie vs light game but second one sounded pretty amusing in your article.
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Netherlands19135 Posts
October 27 2009 19:00 GMT
#26
Haha nice writeup y0, cheers .
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984 Posts
October 27 2009 19:00 GMT
#27
i like to pretend it's spoken with a heavy stutter, it makes the name way better.
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Japan4560 Posts
October 27 2009 19:08 GMT
#28
On October 28 2009 04:00 tedster wrote:
i like to pretend it's spoken with a heavy stutter, it makes the name way better.

Likewise.

Flash is gonna bag this tonight, no question. His only legit opponent is in his best matchup. If Hogil wins it'll be even better for him. Flash's TvZ is phenomenal right now. He's going to break 70% winrate soon....
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United States6233 Posts
October 27 2009 19:18 GMT
#29
Movie next neo-Protoss King?
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 27 2009 19:33 GMT
#30
i believe in Stork. 2nd OSL gogo
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
October 27 2009 19:35 GMT
#31
Astounding recap. So sad about SkyHigh though
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
October 27 2009 19:47 GMT
#32
Am I the only one who pronounces ggameo like Guillermo?
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
October 27 2009 21:10 GMT
#33
Jaehoon will trounce FBH, easily.
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 27 2009 21:15 GMT
#34
I like to pronounce it as

Ge gaemo

not GG aemo

or whatever :_
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 22:02:13
October 27 2009 21:26 GMT
#35
jee-gaymo

I'm predicting that Mind destroys Hogil then destroys Flash. You heard it here first.
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oN_Silva
Profile Joined October 2009
197 Posts
October 27 2009 21:32 GMT
#36
g ga-e-mo ._.

i like urs (lordweird) alot aswell tho

the name sounds faggy boring, suiting him being a bad player and being a boring protoss, who i hate (when not bisu or stork vs good enemy) to watch.

yes agree, flash gonna do his job, his tvz rox latly alot, the first mm push already deadly
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 27 2009 21:37 GMT
#37
FBH vs Jaehoon gonna be so bad, i have to watch that. It will be painful
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Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 22:25:03
October 27 2009 22:24 GMT
#38
FBH vs Jaehoon!

It better makes me laugh or else it's just not worth watching.
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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 22:29:09
October 27 2009 22:27 GMT
#39
By bad, you mean your gonna feel so bad for jaehoon after he gets owned? Also to the OP, 3 protoss have made it into the OSL, you forgot Pusan.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
October 27 2009 23:10 GMT
#40
On October 27 2009 23:44 Jakalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2009 22:59 rotinegg wrote:
Everybody shits on ggaemo's name :[ its just his nickname, and probably came from his real name. His name is 김경모 (Kim Kyung Mo or Gim Gyung Mo) and his friends probably called him gaemo alot (I had a friend called 노경모 = No Kyung Mo and we called him Gaengmo) so he just went with gaemo and last initial to make ggaemo. or maybe he thought it would be funny to put an extra g to make it read 'gg' either way dont see why its such a terrible name and ppl should stop giving him crap for that


Its boring and hard to pronounce.

Language differences.
Jaedong
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 23:13:53
October 27 2009 23:12 GMT
#41
Even if Jaehoon does get owned, with FBH's current playing level (and judging by the game against Yellow, he hasn't improved yet) the game is going to be hilariously awful from both sides. Just how bad they are will be even more apparent by Group G (Mind + Flash).

Seriously, Group G and H today is a must watch just to see the stark contrast in current playing level.
Bormac
Profile Joined May 2008
Belgium122 Posts
October 27 2009 23:38 GMT
#42
Looks like Chill was right on the money with his Kwanrolled sign this time. ^^
Nice work.

Some very nice recommended games, and love for EVE in the recaps. I approve of this thread.
Thx motbob! Keep up the good work.
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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
October 27 2009 23:45 GMT
#43
Thanks, nice recap.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 28 2009 00:14 GMT
#44
I sense fail in Group H....

Anyhow, thanks for the writeup
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 28 2009 00:32 GMT
#45
all that matters is hwasin is gonna ROLL LUXURY!
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
October 28 2009 01:09 GMT
#46
On October 27 2009 21:18 miseiler wrote:
I'm not sure you can count out Guemchi in the last group...not because he's good, but because if he's not preparing *only* for the OSL, what the hell else is he doing in Woongjin house?

Great writeup as always.

I'm sure Penguin can think of a reason and then use that to make a ridiculous new image to use for next time he plays.
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
October 28 2009 01:15 GMT
#47
haha i <3 fbh not liking protoss
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
October 28 2009 01:45 GMT
#48
Rage. Wanted hero to make it T.T
TranslatorBaa!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 28 2009 02:07 GMT
#49
Was Barracks vs Jangbi 2 fac worse than Hwasin vs Bisu 2 factory on Outsider?
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 28 2009 02:23 GMT
#50
Nice writeup. GGaemo is shaping up to be an interesting player, bit by bit.

And I like how you referred to Stork as a grizzled veteran.
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the nooby SC kid
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada14 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 03:45:50
October 28 2009 03:44 GMT
#51
flash is gonna roll his group. geumchi lose against luxury so we can see the epic hwasin vs luxury!! sry geumchi but luxury and hwasin are desitned rivals. you should not interfere them.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 04:01:40
October 28 2009 04:01 GMT
#52
On October 28 2009 11:07 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Was Barracks vs Jangbi 2 fac worse than Hwasin vs Bisu 2 factory on Outsider?

Was that worse than Horang2 vs DarkElf FD on Match Point?

I hope not.
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
October 28 2009 04:55 GMT
#53
I have faith in Mind~
But if I have to think realistically, I'm going to go with Flash because, well, nobody really needs a reason.
I still have hope. :[

Luxury looks like he is going to have an easy time in his group because it consists of Guemchi, a Protoss in a time where Protoss is struggling against Zergs, and a slumping Hwasin.

Firebathero is slumping so badly that I think Zero will win. However, if Firebathero manages to get by Jaehoon, he may have a shot because his TvZ is good.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
October 28 2009 05:37 GMT
#54
I will always remember FBH as the man who ripped Jaedong is pieces with battle cruisers and made him sweat fear then followed it up with a bunker rush ftw a few games later.

With that in mind, FBH is gonna Rip Zero Good.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
October 28 2009 06:05 GMT
#55
People shouldn't be so quick to dismiss Mind.
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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
October 28 2009 06:19 GMT
#56
Flash is a beast and I really hope he wins, but I definitely think Mind is one of the very few current Terran that can actually take Flash in Bo3 or Bo5. This set should produce some great TvT.
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
October 28 2009 12:38 GMT
#57
On October 27 2009 23:44 Jakalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2009 22:59 rotinegg wrote:
Everybody shits on ggaemo's name :[ its just his nickname, and probably came from his real name. His name is 김경모 (Kim Kyung Mo or Gim Gyung Mo) and his friends probably called him gaemo alot (I had a friend called 노경모 = No Kyung Mo and we called him Gaengmo) so he just went with gaemo and last initial to make ggaemo. or maybe he thought it would be funny to put an extra g to make it read 'gg' either way dont see why its such a terrible name and ppl should stop giving him crap for that


Its boring and hard to pronounce.


jakalo 자갈로 means 'with/using small rocks.' boring ass name, who uses an adverbial clause as his name
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
October 29 2009 02:42 GMT
#58
Stork for osl and msl champion
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monolith94
Profile Joined September 2009
United States47 Posts
October 29 2009 04:19 GMT
#59
Anyone else think that + Show Spoiler +
Game 1 of FBH vs. Zero was fun? Nice mix of units, some back and forth battles, and a yamatoed defiler...
the nooby SC kid
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada14 Posts
October 30 2009 04:34 GMT
#60
WOOT FLASH REACHED 70% GO GO FLASH CRUSH UR ENEMIES. stomp zerg
hi people
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
October 30 2009 21:41 GMT
#61
finally got to read this, i like your style of writing motbob!
+ Show Spoiler +
2 out of 3 predictions correct aswell
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
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