Backseat Broodwar - Vol. I - Page 7
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
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errol1001
454 Posts
Feels like a false sense of superiority coming out of being one of the 'bazillions of bandwagonning fans' from a past generation. Or did the superior writer, when he was a new fan of starcraft, choose to not be a fan of then current greats because that was cool and non-mainstream? I don't believe teamliquid has to be 'professional' or anything. I think it's good to have the staff be other fans and say what they want.. so go for it, but I find this distasteful so I'm saying what I want to as well. | ||
errol1001
454 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
It also says that the author of this thread shouldn't be so upset because every sport has new fans who mindlessly support the winning players without too much knowledge about the history of the sport, which is an accurate statement to make. The vent, which clearly says it's a vent is directed at people who compare mechanics from the past with players on top today. Now, a vent. Dear fanboys comparing Jaedong/Bisu/Flash mechanics to those of The Emperor, The Dreamer and The Maestro - stop it. Nothing screams I'M A TOOL WITH ABSOLUTELY NO GRASP OF PROGAMING than a post that even begins to compare players of two eras, especially in terms of mechanics. Judging any of the old pros based on how they play now (or how other people play now) is like comparing the mars rover to Apollo 11. BUT BUT BUT THE MARS ROVER IS THE MOST ADVANCED... | ||
revy
United States1524 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Being arrogant and elitistic is a dangerous thing, because when you slip and notice that you are NOT more intelligent than everyone else, people will eat you up. While you, Plexa, are a great writer, you are quite the SC noob still. You found SC what, 2 years ago? Please don't treat people who have been with the game for 8 years like retards, that just makes you look like a true moron. Anyways, the later portion of the article was good as usual, but ease up on the egos. | ||
Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Talking about elitism | ||
BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On October 20 2009 01:36 Foucault wrote: The beginning of the article was utter trash. You think you are some sort of SC superstars, and being condenscending and calling people noobs is just retarded. Seriously, that was just some BS. I have no idea how you failed to mention Nada either, especially when talking about mechanics and for some reason including Nal_Ra. While he hasn't got bad mechanics, Nada's are way better. So who's the noob? Being arrogant and elitistic is a dangerous thing, because when you slip and notice that you are NOT more intelligent than everyone else, people will eat you up. While you, Plexa, are a great writer, you are quite the SC noob still. You found SC what, 2 years ago? Please don't treat people who have been with the game for 8 years like retards, that just makes you look like a true moron. Anyways, the later portion of the article was good as usual, but ease up on the egos. You are one dense individual if you actually read the beginning of the article and you still believe in what you just posted. Go back and read it again, and check out Nazgul's post, posted above ^. I don't even know how you could interpret the OP as saying what you think it said. English comprehension isn't that difficult yo... EDIT: OH GOD, I only read the first paragraph of your post and thought you were an idiot but THEN I read the rest of it. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that your parents dropped you and you hit your head on something very hard. | ||
Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
ah what I'd give for one of those ... | ||
Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On October 20 2009 02:19 BanZu wrote: You are one dense individual if you actually read the beginning of the article and you still believe in what you just posted. Go back and read it again, and check out Nazgul's post, posted above ^. I don't even know how you could interpret the OP as saying what you think it said. English comprehension isn't that difficult yo... EDIT: OH GOD, I only read the first paragraph of your post and thought you were an idiot but THEN I read the rest of it. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that your parents dropped you and you hit your head on something very hard. I wonder how many points this post earns you, fanboy. | ||
FakeKisser
United States159 Posts
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errol1001
454 Posts
On October 19 2009 23:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: If you think that you're mis-reading the OP. Nowhere does it say this. The biggest misunderstanding stems from the fact that you read "noobs like the players Bisu/Jaedong/Flash" as "people who like Bisu/Jaedong/Flash are noobs". It's not close to the same thing at all. The first part is what they said, and is also completely true. The second would not be. It also says that the author of this thread shouldn't be so upset because every sport has new fans who mindlessly support the winning players without too much knowledge about the history of the sport, which is an accurate statement to make. The vent, which clearly says it's a vent is directed at people who compare mechanics from the past with players on top today. The misunderstanding here is about what you think I'm reading.. I have no issue with the quote you posted. Let me point out the sections.. See, noobs are like most pre teens - they're always angsty, seldom capable of original thought and will constantly express the desire to copulate furiously with whatever bandwagon is passing their bedroom window. Two years ago it was Bisu, now it's Jaedong, tomorrow it could be Backho or Lomo. The point is, it shouldn't bother you. Every sport has shallow fans who are attracted to current winners - they're an occupational hazard and you have to learn to deal with them. Having said that, it's time to now chide the OP for saying that Team Liquid doesn't respect old gamers. Are you kidding us, sir? Team Liquid is not the bazillions of Bisu-Jaedong-Flash bandwaggoning fans you see everyday in Live Report threads (or, as it turns out, everywhere the B word is used) . Put these two quotes together. Teamliquid has bazillions of bandwagonning fans, you see them every day in live report threads! They are angsty, seldom capable of original thought, and love the latest greatest players. They are shallow and a hazard. Now, tell me this, how many people posting in live report threads do you think are people who are comparing the mechanics of Boxer to Flash? Not so many.. this is very clearly lumping a whole lot of people together with genuine idiots (the people who compare boxer's mechanics to flash's). And how is the author lumping them together? Most likely, because they are new fans, who like the current greats. Post count < x && fan of Jaedong/Bisu/Flash = look at the shallow bandwagonning retard! No, Team Liquid, and its outlook on progaming is summed up best in the Final Edits, the site's elitist opinion columns, an arena that is home to articles like Only Until Midnight, Slivers of Perfection and The Storm Zerg. These are what represent TL and its views on progaming, not the combined jibbering of a few thousand crazed fanboys. Disassociating TL with it's user base. We are the few, the proud, the elite! Look at our repository of articles about progamers of yesteryear. I love them too , but what is this crap? I'm not reading something that isn't in the article. Spare me any less-than-witty remarks about english comprehension. This is like that 'critical thinking' section after the text. I don't really care if everyone other than the authors says that they didn't mean that. I don't really care if they themselves say it either. | ||
BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On October 20 2009 02:54 Foucault wrote: I wonder how many points this post earns you, fanboy. Thank you for considering my points and admitting defeat by not offering any rebuttal. | ||
MrHickoryHam54
United States208 Posts
On October 20 2009 02:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Pmg it's the KTF black jackets! -orgasm- ah what I'd give for one of those ... dude what about the eSTRO jackets?! if the team didnt have such a sucky reputation based on past seasons, ppl would be all over those | ||
Sentient66
United States651 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 20 2009 12:29 Froadac wrote: Good luck to ![]() Pusan is even a oldschooler ;(, far from new face | ||
Cyrox
Sweden147 Posts
Bonnnjjjjwaaaaaaaaa! Good article! | ||
diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On October 20 2009 06:30 errol1001 wrote: The misunderstanding here is about what you think I'm reading.. I have no issue with the quote you posted. Let me point out the sections.. . Put these two quotes together. Teamliquid has bazillions of bandwagonning fans, you see them every day in live report threads! They are angsty, seldom capable of original thought, and love the latest greatest players. They are shallow and a hazard. Now, tell me this, how many people posting in live report threads do you think are people who are comparing the mechanics of Boxer to Flash? Not so many.. this is very clearly lumping a whole lot of people together with genuine idiots (the people who compare boxer's mechanics to flash's). And how is the author lumping them together? Most likely, because they are new fans, who like the current greats. Post count < x && fan of Jaedong/Bisu/Flash = look at the shallow bandwagonning retard! Disassociating TL with it's user base. We are the few, the proud, the elite! Look at our repository of articles about progamers of yesteryear. I love them too , but what is this crap? I'm not reading something that isn't in the article. Spare me any less-than-witty remarks about english comprehension. This is like that 'critical thinking' section after the text. I don't really care if everyone other than the authors says that they didn't mean that. I don't really care if they themselves say it either. yep nazgul, I understand the need for mods to help out one another, but if you really dont see the elitist dick attitude shown in the paragraphs quoted by errol and generally in the whole op your really overdoing it. Every dutch person is good enough in English to get that much out of the post and if it wasn't posted by a mod you wouldn't defend it like you do, everybody with half a brain, english comprehension and some experience with TL mods sees through that. | ||
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