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Backseat Broodwar - Vol. I - Page 6

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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 18 2009 23:23 GMT
#101
On October 19 2009 04:57 Kennigit wrote:
Can we also ban the use of "TL"
TL does this, TL does that.....TL is tens of thousands of users....how can you possible say "TL is stuck in the past"?


The same way in that Plexa/hotbid so boldly state:

On October 18 2009 14:13 Plexa wrote:
Team Liquid is not the bazillions of Bisu-Jaedong-Flash bandwaggoning fans you see everyday in Live Report threads (or, as it turns out, everywhere the B word is used). No, Team Liquid, and its outlook on progaming is summed up best in the Final Edits, the site's elitist opinion columns, an arena that is home to articles like Only Until Midnight, Slivers of Perfection and The Storm Zerg. These are what represent TL and its views on progaming, not the combined jibbering of a few thousand crazed fanboys.


If "TL" isn't the tens of thousands of "crazed fanboys", but the people who disdain them, then I think it's pretty accurate to say that "TL" is stuck in the past. Personally, I'd have been glad for this conversation - and it's sweeping generalizations - to never have happened in the first place. My reply was mostly surprise at the condescending attitude shown toward starcraft fans in a front page article...
Oh, my eSports
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
October 18 2009 23:34 GMT
#102
Yeah lets just not use it anymore - everyone.
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
October 18 2009 23:56 GMT
#103
Thanks Plexa <3
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 19 2009 00:41 GMT
#104
On October 19 2009 08:23 QibingZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 04:57 Kennigit wrote:
Can we also ban the use of "TL"
TL does this, TL does that.....TL is tens of thousands of users....how can you possible say "TL is stuck in the past"?


The same way in that Plexa/hotbid so boldly state:

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2009 14:13 Plexa wrote:
Team Liquid is not the bazillions of Bisu-Jaedong-Flash bandwaggoning fans you see everyday in Live Report threads (or, as it turns out, everywhere the B word is used). No, Team Liquid, and its outlook on progaming is summed up best in the Final Edits, the site's elitist opinion columns, an arena that is home to articles like Only Until Midnight, Slivers of Perfection and The Storm Zerg. These are what represent TL and its views on progaming, not the combined jibbering of a few thousand crazed fanboys.


If "TL" isn't the tens of thousands of "crazed fanboys", but the people who disdain them, then I think it's pretty accurate to say that "TL" is stuck in the past. Personally, I'd have been glad for this conversation - and it's sweeping generalizations - to never have happened in the first place. My reply was mostly surprise at the condescending attitude shown toward starcraft fans in a front page article...



I agree, I love TL and this kind of stuff should not be on the front page.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
October 19 2009 00:52 GMT
#105
On October 18 2009 14:13 Plexa wrote:
As I (Plexa) maintain, for once Backho didn't look confused or pathetic (or cheesy) and instead looked incredibly sexy as he smashed Calm from wall to wall with impressive Dark Templar play. I know Artosis hates DTs, but surely he has to give Backho credit for pulling it off.

In fact, the whole Backho vs Calm series is pretty non-standard and really interesting and entertaining. Backho is starting to emerge as an intelligent player (never thought I'd have to say that)

I thought game 1 was vintage backho: more stubborn than intelligent. The fact that he managed to sneak a DT in at last and actually win the game was awesome of course, but Backho's games have always been entertaining.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
October 19 2009 01:11 GMT
#106
I can't believe people get so bent out of shape from an article with a little slant on it. Don't you people read ESPN or any sports journalism? Relax yo.
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Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
October 19 2009 01:22 GMT
#107
but in today's environment with JulyZerg wearing skinny jeans and Woongjin wearing polos this is a refreshing move in the right direction.

I like the polo shirts...
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 01:39:27
October 19 2009 01:35 GMT
#108
Can we use the B-word in reference to people who have already, in the past, been established as worthy of the B-word (like Boxer, Nada, Oov, Savior) or is this ban, "Don't mention it in any context, period." Can someone enlighten me?

Edit: I skimmed the article and comments and saw no clarification on this point. Although I did see people using the B-word.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 19 2009 01:59 GMT
#109
On October 19 2009 10:35 Mortality wrote:
Can we use the B-word in reference to people who have already, in the past, been established as worthy of the B-word (like Boxer, Nada, Oov, Savior) or is this ban, "Don't mention it in any context, period." Can someone enlighten me?

Edit: I skimmed the article and comments and saw no clarification on this point. Although I did see people using the B-word.


Just ignore the article, honestly
natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
October 19 2009 02:06 GMT
#110
banning the word "bonjwa"? that's just silly.
This nigga done stole my bike.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
October 19 2009 03:53 GMT
#111
Do people really not understand that the word "bonjwa" isn't banned, Plexa just said that he wished it were banned?

Also, good heavens, theres news that carries an opinion and generates thoughts and discussion, whatever shall we do!?!?
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
October 19 2009 04:14 GMT
#112
You don't have to agree...but to suggest an opinion piece shouldn't be published rofl...have you ever read a magazine or newspaper?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 19 2009 04:26 GMT
#113
I like the "it's just opinions!" backpedaling. Let's see how many of these quotes would be in a newspaper (with different subject material obviously)

Of course, a majority of those views are crap.


We don't claim to be an authority on SC. We are one.


See, noobs are like most pre teens - they're always angsty, seldom capable of original thought and will constantly express the desire to copulate furiously with whatever bandwagon is passing their bedroom window.


Nothing screams I'M A TOOL WITH ABSOLUTELY NO GRASP OF PROGAMING than a post that even begins to compare players of two eras


Finally, an appropriate, if ironic one:

Opinions are opinions, and everyone is entitled to them, even idiots.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 19 2009 04:34 GMT
#114
On October 19 2009 10:11 Manifesto7 wrote:
I can't believe people get so bent out of shape from an article with a little slant on it. Don't you people read ESPN or any sports journalism? Relax yo.


hahahahahaha

you think that the people who write articles for ESPN go into their comment threads (which are far worse than TL's) and call the people who disagree with them idiots?

even ESPN is not that classless.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 19 2009 04:51 GMT
#115
There is discussion of contradicting opinions on these forums everyday, this is true and it's what forums are all about.

I just expect the immature ones to be buried away some where in a matter of minutes, as opposed to being on the front page of a website as awesome as TL.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
October 19 2009 06:21 GMT
#116
Sexy article from sexy Kiwi :D

On October 19 2009 13:34 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 10:11 Manifesto7 wrote:
I can't believe people get so bent out of shape from an article with a little slant on it. Don't you people read ESPN or any sports journalism? Relax yo.


hahahahahaha

you think that the people who write articles for ESPN go into their comment threads (which are far worse than TL's) and call the people who disagree with them idiots?

even ESPN is not that classless.


they write for money not for the pleasure, here you get the love for the work and the slaping from redman, so enjoy it. Feel the heartbeat
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 08:51:29
October 19 2009 08:44 GMT
#117
I don't see anything wrong with this article. The first time I read it it was just like an opinionated article but there was nothing that really bugged me about it.

People comparing mechanics from different eras are tools. However liking Bisu/Jaedong/Flash because they are dominant right now there's absolutely nothing wrong with that and nowhere in the article it says it is. Read it again if you feel offended because you like those guys because they might not be talking about you at all. Sports have a lot of shallow fans attracted to current winners. They also have a lot of non-shallow fans attracted to current winners.

jalstar you could find quotes that aren't appropriate for newspapers concerning every single article that gets written on TL. It's because we word things differently from newspapers to appeal to (fellow) SC-nerds. The opinions themselves are no stronger than common stuff you find in newspapers and magazines.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
October 19 2009 09:31 GMT
#118
As a Jaedong fan I am offended!

If you are going to make ranting about forum behavior a recurring theme I want encourage Uraeus' suggestion:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103892&currentpage=3#55
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 19 2009 09:59 GMT
#119
On October 19 2009 10:59 eMbrace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 10:35 Mortality wrote:
Can we use the B-word in reference to people who have already, in the past, been established as worthy of the B-word (like Boxer, Nada, Oov, Savior) or is this ban, "Don't mention it in any context, period." Can someone enlighten me?

Edit: I skimmed the article and comments and saw no clarification on this point. Although I did see people using the B-word.


Just ignore the article, honestly
Why have you posted 4 times in the thread? I thought you didn't like the article?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
October 19 2009 13:09 GMT
#120
bad article for a newspost, should have been a blog or smth. displaying an elitist attitude and offending a large fraction of TLs userbase doesnt seem like a smart thing to do imo. For me, TL is a community of all members of the site and not the views of a few mods who really think they are "authorities" on progaming who cant even hit B on iccup.
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