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[OSL] Not Your Father's ZvZ - Page 5

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asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 06:32:13
August 21 2009 06:15 GMT
#81
Great write-up!

I don't agree with you when you said Yarnc was essentially handed his OSL finals opportunity on a silver platter. He definitely had his share of work getting through the Ro16 Group A, which was the group of death (Yarnc, Effort, Jaedong, and Flash). Getting past Light in the round before isn't exactly a pushover either b/c TvZ happens to be Light's best matchup. Even if Yarnc did have to face off against Leta instead of type-b I would still have called out to Yarnc as a favorite because he has the best ZvT in the league (debatable with Jaedong). Either way you look at it Yarnc definitely has a chance to take this OSL and future leagues. I'm a big Jaedong fan especially everything he's been going through but deep down inside I will be cheering for Yarnc...he deserves to win.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 21 2009 06:26 GMT
#82
Nice write-up JWD~!
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
August 21 2009 06:27 GMT
#83
If JD wins, he is the youngest Golden Mouse, right ?
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
August 21 2009 06:44 GMT
#84
On August 21 2009 15:27 MK wrote:
If JD wins, he is the youngest Golden Mouse, right ?

yep, by two years
Yhamm is the god of predictions
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
August 21 2009 07:31 GMT
#85
On August 21 2009 05:48 Itachii wrote:
something died inside me when i realized we will have 2 ZvZ finals

zvz is the shit
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
August 21 2009 08:09 GMT
#86
yep, am hyped for this! Let's go JD!
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
August 21 2009 08:15 GMT
#87
Nice article, keep up the good work!
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 21 2009 09:49 GMT
#88
i have reasons to doubt that it will be the greatest zvz of all time.
jaedong knows that the win will be hard when he meets the twins muta micro.
thats why he will 5 times zergling rush.
and knowing that yarnc will try to defence the zergling rushes, maybe succeeding 2 times...
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 21 2009 10:05 GMT
#89
Go Yarnc!!
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
ony
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany39 Posts
August 21 2009 10:19 GMT
#90
'Hell it's about time' i am so fucking exited about those games comin' up! IMO everything leads to JD to be the winner after all! Sure he sucked hard in past and specially in PL but he had some time to calm down and get his nerves back to propper work. If Yellow wants to win he must put his A+ game on the table and for JD he just needs to back up his extrem ZvZ dominance he still will win this damn title if he wont play his best games, sure that would be some really close games. JD need to stick to his roots and will win!
look behind you, a three-headed NaDa!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 21 2009 10:21 GMT
#91
*gives a pat on the back*

i'm excited, nice article, but i really don't think Calm vs JD was an excelent series, since as JD stated he could not give his best and even his win wasnt fully deserved
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Alsar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States130 Posts
August 21 2009 11:33 GMT
#92
I'm really excited to see jaedong get his golden mouse ^__^

I've never really found ZvZ that boring (maybe since I play zerg haha), though it is really disappointing when a Bo5 is over in like an hour. I just hope that all of the games are epic and that there's some longer ones at least.
moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
August 21 2009 12:25 GMT
#93
Lee Jaedong Fighting!

Great writeup!
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like pandabearguy.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 12:37:36
August 21 2009 12:36 GMT
#94
I would say Jaedong is going to win this.
PS: In the spirit of hyping this finals, you guys should check this out:


Oh boy, so much hype! a ZvZ finals is going to be awesome!!

Edit: That video is from NukeTheStars, by the way. If you don't know his hype videos, check him out.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
August 21 2009 13:34 GMT
#95
LOL I read it like this and thought there was some secret message hidden.
On August 21 2009 05:51 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2009 05:46 SilverskY wrote:
JWD, I posted another version of the splash in the GFX forum, you can quickly go check it out, and replace it with that one if you like it better.

Daniel! Looks super, thanks man.

Can't wait these finals :/
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
colonel_west
Profile Joined June 2008
Sweden7 Posts
August 21 2009 13:59 GMT
#96
great article, love the "not your fathers zvz" part
ei forever
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
August 21 2009 17:10 GMT
#97
On August 21 2009 22:34 Tuke wrote:
LOL I read it like this and thought there was some secret message hidden.
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2009 05:51 JWD wrote:
On August 21 2009 05:46 SilverskY wrote:
JWD, I posted another version of the splash in the GFX forum, you can quickly go check it out, and replace it with that one if you like it better.

Daniel! Looks super, thanks man.

Can't wait these finals :/

Hahaha, there is definitely a hidden message there.
Hieros
Profile Joined June 2009
United States83 Posts
August 21 2009 19:01 GMT
#98
On August 21 2009 15:15 asdfTT123 wrote:
Great write-up!

I don't agree with you when you said Yarnc was essentially handed his OSL finals opportunity on a silver platter. He definitely had his share of work getting through the Ro16 Group A, which was the group of death (Yarnc, Effort, Jaedong, and Flash). Getting past Light in the round before isn't exactly a pushover either b/c TvZ happens to be Light's best matchup. Even if Yarnc did have to face off against Leta instead of type-b I would still have called out to Yarnc as a favorite because he has the best ZvT in the league (debatable with Jaedong). Either way you look at it Yarnc definitely has a chance to take this OSL and future leagues. I'm a big Jaedong fan especially everything he's been going through but deep down inside I will be cheering for Yarnc...he deserves to win.


Maybe. It depends how you want to view the sheer lack of Protoss players in this OSL. Yarnc definitely did not need to play any tough TvPs this tournament, so in that regard, one might think that this is his golden opportunity, or the tournament is handed on a silver platter, or whatever metal + noun combination you wish to use. So you might want to say that since his weakness has not been truly tested, the Fates have provided him this possibility.

...but then again one might well say that the lack of Protoss simply represents their own failures, and should not enter into our evaluation of Yarnc's performance at all. Frankly I'm not sure which side I agree with.
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
August 21 2009 19:29 GMT
#99
great article
Enjoy the game
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 21 2009 23:01 GMT
#100
I think the tell-tale of the opening message is "And here's four reasons why." I figure you could do way more than that if either Leta or Fantasy won and it were a TvZ. It'll be a good match, I'm sure, for ZvZ, but it will still be an unsatisfying finals because, no matter what, it'll be over early.
Remember Violet.
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