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Note: Ver will be helping me co-mod the game. If you have any questions you can contact him as well as me.
Intro:
Welcome to the first mini mafia game. While the objectives of the game are the same as those of the larger games previously hosted on here on TL.net, the setup of this game will be slightly different. As usual, the game will alternate between the day cycle, where the town will be able to discuss and vote to lynch one member of the town, and the night cycle, where the mafia will get to decide which player to kill. Also, all blue roles with night actions may act via PM during the night cycle only. A mafia player count greater than or equal to the innocent player count results in a mafia win, while the elimination of all mafia players results in a town win. If neither of these conditions are met, the day/night cycle continues as usual.
What is different about this game? Well, for one, mafia operate on 1 KP rules. This means that mafia get 1 KP per night throughout the game regardless of the number of mafia alive. Secondly, the voting rules have been slightly altered. If at any point a single player has the majority of votes, the day will end whether we have reached the time limit for the day cycle. Therefore, a day might be cut short if the town reaches a consensus quickly. Thirdly, all tie votes end with a no lynch. There is no tiebreaker in this game. Finally, the role setup is hidden. I will post a list of the possible roles that are in the game. Each role may or may not be used in the game setup. However mafia number will stay consistent at 3 for an 11 player game. Apart from the fact that the days/nights will be shorter and the game will be very fast paced, these are the main changes from the large games we are used to playing here on TL.net.
Rules: (Subject to change, please check frequently, although I will post if a rule change has been made).
Voting:
1. You must post your vote in the separate voting thread in bold.
2. Votes should be made in this format:
I vote for (insert player name here)
3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon.
4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game.
5. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: "I abstain from voting".
6. If the final vote count shows a tie between the top two candidates, the day ends with a no lynch.
7. If at any point during the day any candidate has received a majority of all possible votes, the day ends immediately with that candidate's lynch.
8. You may vote for a no lynch. If a majority of the people vote for a no lynch, the day ends without anyone's death.
Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to) the following and will get you banned from future games:
1. Creating or using an alternate ("smurf") account to play/post in this game. Players are getting very sick of this. Don't do it to have two characters in the game. Don't do it to post/PM anonymously. Don't do it for anything.
2. Posting after death. One polite goodbye post is acceptable but please do not post anything which could POSSIBLY affect the game.
3. Betraying your role and ruining the game for everyone by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
4. Logging on to someone else's account / checking their PMs / looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
5. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
6. Posting screenshots of your inbox. This is not a photoshop competition.
7. No post editing. Do not do it for any reason.
Clues:
There are no clues. So don't look for them.
Time cycle:
Day/Night cycle will be 15/5 minutes. As this is the first short speed game, this cycle is not concrete and can be adjusted at mod discretion.
Ban List:
A banlist will be used at mod's discretion.
Credits:
Chuiu, Ace, Tracil, Caller, BloodyC0bbler, Qatol, LTT, Pyrrhuloxia, and Plexa for taking the time to run mafia games for us. Also to Chuiu for the TL Mafia banner.
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Roles:
Remember, all role counts are hidden. So just because a role is listed here does not mean it is necessarily in the game!
Town Aligned Roles
Townie:
You have no special powers other than the ability to vote. But you are necessary for a town victory! So help purify the town and be active!
Detective:
You have the ability to ask for the role of a specific player. You may only use your ability once per night and you may only act at night. However, you may use your ability every night.
Medic:
You have the ability to prevent one hit on a player of your choice during the night. As 1 KP rules apply, mafia cannot kill the person you choose to protect. However, neither you nor the person you have protected will be notified if you have made a successful save. If you protect a veteran, your ability overrides the veteran's extra life. You are allowed to protect yourself if you so choose.
Vigilante:
You may, only once during the game, kill a player of your choice during the night. If your hit overlaps with mafia, your hit will be canceled and you will be able to use your hit at any future night.
Veteran:
You've been around the block a few times and know how to escape an attack on your life. You have an additional night life, which means that you must be hit twice in order to die (these two hits may either be both mafia hits or a mafia and a vigilante hit). You will also know if your extra life has been activated. If you are being protected by a medic, the medic's ability will override yours.
Mafia Aligned Roles
Mafia:
Your goal is to eliminate everyone else in the town. Your ability, as a group, is killing off whomever you decide on at night and knowing the role of each other player in the mafia. You MAY kill other mafia. As a whole, your KP is 1 throughout the whole game, so choose wisely!
Godfather:
You are the head of the mafia, and when role checked, will show up as any role of your choice. You must choose before Day 1 is over, otherwise I will randomly choose for you.
Player List:
1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM (Medic)
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
5 of 11 players remain
? of ? Detectives remain
? of ? Medics remain
? of ? Vigilante remain
? of ? Veterans remain
? of ? Miller remains
2 of 3 Mafia remain (this includes the Godfather)
1 of 1 Godfather remains
3 of 8 Townies remain (This includes all town-aligned players)
Role PM Examples:
+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to Mini Mafia I! Your role is: TowniePM Incognito if you have any questions about your role. Welcome to Mini Mafia I! Your role is: DetectivePM Incognito if you have any questions about your role. Welcome to Mini Mafia I! Your role is: MedicPM Incognito if you have any questions about your role. Welcome to Mini Mafia I! Your role is: VigilantePM Incognito if you have any questions about your role. Welcome to Mini Mafia I! Your role is: VeteranPM Incognito if you have any questions about your role. Welcome to Mini Mafia I! Your role is: MafiaYour team consists of: 1. Godfather - Ver2. Incognito3. ChuiuPM Incognito if you have any questions about your role. Welcome to Mini Mafia I! Your role is: GodfatherYour team consists of: 1. Godfather - Ver2. Incognito3. ChuiuPM Incognito if you have any questions about your role.
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Signups begin now. 11 spots are open. The game will run on Sunday night, August 16, from 7 PM PDT (11 KST) onwards.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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I'll play 
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I'll sign up, hope I can be active.
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aww one day too early for me to play
gl hf
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On August 15 2009 10:00 c.ngeK wrote:
On on on.
Should I assume this is a signup post?
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I'll get in if there's room in this tiny game
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i shall try my hand at the mini game
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Game starts in less than 2 hours and there's still 3 spots open. Is this gonna happen?
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On August 17 2009 09:17 Zato-1 wrote:
Game starts in less than 2 hours and there's still 3 spots open. Is this gonna happen?
Well, since there have not been enough signups, the game will be postponed. I will send out pms later to all who have signed up to confirm that you guys can play at a different time.
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kk, thanks for the update.
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oh I'll sign up. Speed games are more of my style.
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On August 17 2009 10:50 Ace wrote:
oh I'll sign up. Speed games are more of my style.
Ah there you are! I was considering pming you since I thought you would want to play
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I think I will give this a try. Sign me up please.
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The game commences in 5 hours.
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yay I'll be here for this. Vroooooooooooooooooooooom!
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Ace, you know I'm always here for you..
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2 v 7 dang. This gonna be hard lol.
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If it starts in 30mins, I'm not going to that lecture.
Edit: Scratch that, I looked at it wrong.
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On August 20 2009 08:17 Ace wrote:
2 v 7 dang. This gonna be hard lol.
Don't see why it would be particularly harder than 3 v 8, which was the original format :p
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I've never been mafia a game with shared KP (i.e. anything other than Caller's game). If I happen to be mafia, how do mafia coordinate who to hit? They designate someone who sends Incognito a PM, do they vote by each sending Incognito a PM, or what?
EDIT: Also, is it allowed / recommended for mafia to communicate through IRC?
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On August 20 2009 08:49 Zato-1 wrote:
I've never been mafia a game with shared KP (i.e. anything other than Caller's game). If I happen to be mafia, how do mafia coordinate who to hit? They designate someone who sends Incognito a PM, do they vote by each sending Incognito a PM, or what?
EDIT: Also, is it allowed / recommended for mafia to communicate through IRC?
Usually the mafia can discuss and the godfather sends in the hits. But I guess it doesn't have to be that way? Thats just tradition I guess.
IRC is allowed. But I'd be careful when using it. Just make sure you have the proper password protection/other precautions to make sure you don't get infiltrated
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aight I am in. I need to go eat sometime so hopefully it doesnt run too long...
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With the addition of a player and an extra mafia member, I am removing the miller role from the list. There is no miller this game.
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Role PMs sent. Day post in 20 minutes.
Rule clarifications:
No lynches.
8. You may vote for a no lynch. If a majority of the people vote for a no lynch, the day ends without anyone's death.
Medics:
You are allowed to protect yourself if you so choose.
Veterans:
You will also know if your extra life has been activated.
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No clues?! 
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:O Can't wait. Wonder how close this will be to the IRC ones I always played a year ago.
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Day 1
He had heard that the mafia were back in town. But he did not know where or when they would strike. So he decided that he would call his trusty informant, Ver.
"Hello?"
"Ver, this is urgent. I've heard some strange rumors going around about the mafia being back in town. I wanted to see if I could get access to some of your old files. I could use a hand as I'm completely in the dark here."
"Oh, hi Incognito. The files I have are a bit old, probably from the last attack a couple years ago, but I'm sure they could be of use."
Suddenly Incognito heard a loud screech and the sound of two bullets coming through Ver's open window. Fearing that the mafia had killed Ver and destroyed the files, Incognito immediately grabbed his gun and rushed to his car. But not long after he got into his car, he heard a raspy voice behind him.
"Drive. To Ver's house of course." He chuckled.
Incognito knew something was wrong, and he tried to think fast. He sped out of his driveway and noticed the lamp post not far off in the distance. So as not to attract the man's suspicion, Incognito slowly accelerated.
"Slow down and turn left here!" the man barked, pushing his gun deeper into Incognito's shoulder.
But Incognito wasn't listening. He made the hard left turn a little earlier than the intersection, slamming directly into the lamp post. The change in inertia caught the man off guard, and the gunshot that followed missed Incognito and shattered the windshield. Quickly drawing his gun to turn around, Incognito noticed that Amber[Light] was already dead.
Incognito continued on foot to Ver's house, slinking in the shadows to avoid the detection of any possible mafia members. When he arrived at Ver's house, he found Ver gasping for breath, with two bullet holes in his chest. Ver attempted to make out a few words to Incognito, but his strength had left him and Ver, the Detective, collapsed dead on the floor. Incognito snuck around the house trying to see if any mafia remained in Ver's house. Looking down the hallway, he saw a light in Ver's office. Making sure nobody was waiting to trap him in the other room, he entered the office to see Ver's files all up in flames. But a shocked Incognito was too slow to respond to the dagger that slit his throat and ended his life.
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Day 1 begins here. You may vote in the voting thread here.
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Ok, so are we good for no lynch the first day.
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So with no clues where shall we begin?
Do we just start randomly voting xD
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:02 Jimtudor wrote:
Ok, so are we good for no lynch the first day.
Why?
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 09:58 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:No clues?!
Uh oh. Pyrry's out of a job!
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On August 20 2009 10:03 SugiuraMidori wrote:
So with no clues where shall we begin?
Do we just start randomly voting xD
We begin by not reading the day post because it isn't worth it. Actually, I might read it anyways,
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Eh.. we got 15 minutes to see people stress out first and bungle their roles.
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Just go back from work at the right time, looks like. Taking a shower first!
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Important: Ver will be taking over the administration for the game as of now. If you have any questions/want to use your ability pm it to Ver.
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On August 20 2009 10:04 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:02 Jimtudor wrote:
Ok, so are we good for no lynch the first day.
Why?
Because we have no clues to work on, and a no lynch is better than a missed lynch.
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With no clues, mafia will want to lurk in the shadows. If you don't post, I will suspect you are mafia. Consider yourselves warned.
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Eh, I read it hoping for some laughs.. oh well though..
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I dunno what we are supposed to talk about either.
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Qatol hasn't posted yet and I know he's active.. get him!
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I dunno what we are supposed to talk about either.
JimTudor's illogical reasoning would be a good place to start.
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On August 20 2009 10:07 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I dunno what we are supposed to talk about either. JimTudor's illogical reasoning would be a good place to start.
How is it illogical? Please explain.
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Posted = striked out
1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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Mafia is too busy PM'ing each other and trying to coordinate. Post what you think of this game! I think that behavioral analysis will be fundamental to catching mafia, so they're gonna try to stay quiet. Look at the list of players, and at those who are posting.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:07 Jimtudor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:07 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 10:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I dunno what we are supposed to talk about either. JimTudor's illogical reasoning would be a good place to start. How is it illogical? Please explain.
In the absence of vigilante and medic protections, the town has 3 chances to kill a mafia before it's game over. Voting for no lynch is tanking that down to 2 chances.
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United States2186 Posts
Reminder: Mafia need to send me their godfather choice before the day ends. Otherwise I will randomly choose it.
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On August 20 2009 10:07 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I dunno what we are supposed to talk about either. JimTudor's illogical reasoning would be a good place to start.
I agree. Wasting KP never helps the town. All we gain from letting the day pass without a lynch is info about 1 dead player and who the mafia may fear/think is blue. We have to talk about suspects and force the mafia to post/make a stand.
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Just so you know, Ace is BROWN!! oh wait...mafia can still be brown...But brown is awesome none the less and I will not vote for him.
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On August 20 2009 10:07 Jimtudor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:07 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 10:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I dunno what we are supposed to talk about either. JimTudor's illogical reasoning would be a good place to start. How is it illogical? Please explain.
Why do we want to no-lynch on Day 1? (I'm neutral/undecided on this question, haven't really considered it, but would like your reasoning.)
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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Posted = striked out
1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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Just did a random number generator and got #1.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:12 Chezinu wrote:
Just did a random number generator and got #1.
I just did a random number generator and got #1 as well.
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I did it three times total: 1, 3, 11.
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LOL.. rand() to pick our target?
Why not just get rid of one of the three that haven't posted yet.
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United States2186 Posts
Because it took a little time for everyone to arrive the first day will end in 7 minutes (10:21).
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Alright folks, pick someone who hasn't posted and vote. No time left.
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Well, nevermind that. I thought the day was about to end.
Man, I hate not being able to edit my messages :p
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Yeh we wouldn't want inactives in a fast paced game anyhow.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:15 Zato-1 wrote:
Well, nevermind that. I thought the day was about to end.
Man, I hate not being able to edit my messages :p
This is a terrible idea! Don't succumb to the bandwagon guys!
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suspect list:
Zato-1
SugiuraMidori
Why Ace? Why not Vivi57?
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Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends? 
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:17 Chezinu wrote:
suspect list:
Zato-1
SugiuraMidori
Why Ace? Why not Vivi57?
Why not someone who has yet to respond after I called him out?
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On August 20 2009 10:17 Chezinu wrote:
suspect list:
Zato-1
SugiuraMidori
Why Ace? Why not Vivi57?
Because we all know Ace would love the attention of being voted out first thing.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends?
There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies.
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On August 20 2009 10:18 SugiuraMidori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:17 Chezinu wrote:
suspect list:
Zato-1
SugiuraMidori
Why Ace? Why not Vivi57? Because we all know Ace would love the attention of being voted out first thing.
oh ok! If Ace would love it then I'm for it!
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On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends? There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies.
What about guilty townies?
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On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends? There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies.
But how would you know their roles yet? I know the bandwagon in our noob game resulted in such, but we don't have that long to assess others.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:19 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends? There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies. What about guilty townies?
No thanks
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I'm not really sure what to suspect except maybe JimTudor for trying to not lynch?
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United States2186 Posts
Because nobody has voted I'm extending it one last time till 10:25.
If you don't vote by then you're out of luck.
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On August 20 2009 10:16 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:15 Zato-1 wrote:
Well, nevermind that. I thought the day was about to end.
Man, I hate not being able to edit my messages :p This is a terrible idea! Don't succumb to the bandwagon guys!
I agree, don't listen to the bandwagon , everyone! If anything that makes you look really suspicious starting that randomly on a player who hasn't even defended himself yet
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On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends? There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies.
Foolishness your math doesn't make sense, we will have more than three chances to hit mafia as long as we hit correctly if we vote no on the first day and get them right anyways, but if you get it wrong on first day it gets reduced to one mislynch. We do not have 3 mis lynches to give either way.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:20 SugiuraMidori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends? There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies. But how would you know their roles yet? I know the bandwagon in our noob game resulted in such, but we don't have that long to assess others.
I called JimTudor out because his logic seemed mafia like. He has yet to respond or say anything. Sounds like a much safer bet than some random inactive.
Edit: nvm, he posted right above me!
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On August 20 2009 10:17 Chezinu wrote:
suspect list:
Zato-1
SugiuraMidori
Why Ace? Why not Vivi57?
Among those who've posted, so far Chezinu is going up my suspect list- neither me nor SugiuraMidori have done anything worth being suspicious about, so I'm concerned as to why he's pointing us out.
No particular reason why I chose Ace out of the inactives. Presumably SugiuraMidori just voted for what I did so we wouldn't get a tie > no lynch.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:21 Jimtudor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends? There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies. Foolishness your math doesn't make sense, we will have more than three chances to hit mafia as long as we hit correctly if we vote no on the first day and get them right anyways, but if you get it wrong on first day it gets reduced to one mislynch. We do not have 3 mis lynches to give either way.
Really? I beg to differ. If there was no vigilante or medic protections, and if the veteran does not get hit, the town has 3 lynches to kill a mafia. If the town does not, the game will be over and mafia win. If we vote no lynch today, the town will only have 2 lynches before it will be game over.
Count it out if you don't believe me.
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On August 20 2009 10:22 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:17 Chezinu wrote:
suspect list:
Zato-1
SugiuraMidori
Why Ace? Why not Vivi57? Among those who've posted, so far Chezinu is going up my suspect list- neither me nor SugiuraMidori have done anything worth being suspicious about, so I'm concerned as to why he's pointing us out. No particular reason why I chose Ace out of the inactives. Presumably SugiuraMidori just voted for what I did so we wouldn't get a tie > no lynch.
You have chosen unwisely! Ace of all people! The brownest of them all! the father of brown1!!!
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United States2186 Posts
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As I explained to Qatol.. I picked the person whose name was most known to me in the not-yet-posted list.
Notice how two people have now voted for Zato-1, causing a tie with Ace... that would end in a no lynch tie... c'mon folks.. don't let it end like that.. it only helps the mafia.
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Okay, day 7-3, night 6 - 3, day 5-3, night 4- 3, day 3-3, mafia wins..,..
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 10:24 SugiuraMidori wrote:
As I explained to Qatol.. I picked the person whose name was most known to me in the not-yet-posted list.
Notice how two people have now voted for Zato-1, causing a tie with Ace... that would end in a no lynch tie... c'mon folks.. don't let it end like that.. it only helps the mafia.
That's a terrible style of play. You should be trying to find mafia, not picking almost at random. Did you vote for the current governor of California just because you had heard his name?
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Why is Chez in love with Ace? >.<
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just got back - rereading but first thigns i have noticed is that foolishness is making sense and qatol has voted w/out posting
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On August 20 2009 10:24 SugiuraMidori wrote:
As I explained to Qatol.. I picked the person whose name was most known to me in the not-yet-posted list.
Notice how two people have now voted for Zato-1, causing a tie with Ace... that would end in a no lynch tie... c'mon folks.. don't let it end like that.. it only helps the mafia.
wait wtf tie results in no lynch? that seems like a bad rule to me, especially in such a small game where ties are very likely.
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On August 20 2009 10:26 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
just got back - rereading but first thigns i have noticed is that foolishness is making sense and qatol has voted w/out posting
Qatol posted..... Reread yo.
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oh nevermind qatol did post on pg 3, i am dumb. sorry
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On August 20 2009 10:26 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:24 SugiuraMidori wrote:
As I explained to Qatol.. I picked the person whose name was most known to me in the not-yet-posted list.
Notice how two people have now voted for Zato-1, causing a tie with Ace... that would end in a no lynch tie... c'mon folks.. don't let it end like that.. it only helps the mafia. That's a terrible style of play. You should be trying to find mafia, not picking almost at random. Did you vote for the current governor of California just because you had heard his name?
If I lived in Cali, I would have
During the last election I voted against anyone with mexican sounding last names.. it's just my thing to do! xD
Not going to jump to any bandwagons though.. But now that folks are being more obvious about posting styles I can vote better in following days; not much I can do about day 1 other than an inactive.
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On August 20 2009 10:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:24 SugiuraMidori wrote:
As I explained to Qatol.. I picked the person whose name was most known to me in the not-yet-posted list.
Notice how two people have now voted for Zato-1, causing a tie with Ace... that would end in a no lynch tie... c'mon folks.. don't let it end like that.. it only helps the mafia. wait wtf tie results in no lynch? that seems like a bad rule to me, especially in such a small game where ties are very likely.
6. If the final vote count shows a tie between the top two candidates, the day ends with a no lynch.
We will have to keep close tabs on this
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United States2186 Posts
Night 1:
The town has decided. JimTudor walks up to the gallows and gets his head chopped off. The town gasps as JimTudor's blood spills out.
All roles send in your actions for the night. You have until 10:35 KST.
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Hmpf.. now all that voted for JT are suspects! Woot.
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On August 20 2009 10:29 Jimtudor wrote:
gl town
Be Strong, Be a Martyr, Be Brown!
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Hmpf.. now all that voted for JT are suspects! Woot.
Anyone who voted using logic as opposed to randomness is suspect?
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On August 20 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Hmpf.. now all that voted for JT are suspects! Woot.
Yes I'm a Suspect!!!!! Mafia can't kill me now!!! Muihahahaha
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The three inactives on my list still remain inactive... just putting that out there.
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Okay. Townies? If you're innocent and people are voting to lynch you, you're supposed to defend yourselves. Staying quiet is not the way to go.
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Foolish.. stop whining about your lack of logic.. as there was none involved.
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Just because some people are mute doesn't mean we can just kill them. The weak need a voice and I shall be that voice! Brown is peaceful not cruel!
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On August 20 2009 10:32 Zato-1 wrote:
Okay. Townies? If you're innocent and people are voting to lynch you, you're supposed to defend yourselves. Staying quiet is not the way to go.
Agreed
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Everyone spam like crazy so we know you arent pming who to kill!!!
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Chez, stop making love with Ace and get in the game!
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On August 20 2009 10:31 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Hmpf.. now all that voted for JT are suspects! Woot. Anyone who voted using logic as opposed to randomness is suspect?
when a mafia sees a townie make a bad play it sometimes make sense for him to come and call him out on it - e.g. when glugluk posted the vote plan in the smurf game, two mafia members were among those dismantling why the plan wasnt good. so yes, the list deserves a look - though mafia could also have not voted at all
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Are you blind? I am in the game, I'm proving my innocents for all! I'm being a martyr for the greater good!
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On August 20 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Hmpf.. now all that voted for JT are suspects! Woot.
Nah. Jimtudor's defense was nonexistant. Let's try to keep this place clear of suspicions unless there's a bit more substance to them.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 10:32 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Foolish.. stop whining about your lack of logic.. as there was none involved.
How about you go look at Chezinu's random number generator? I mean your reasoning is about as good as that.
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On August 20 2009 10:34 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:32 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Foolish.. stop whining about your lack of logic.. as there was none involved. How about you go look at Chezinu's random number generator? I mean your reasoning is about as good as that.
That random generator was legit!
http://www.random.org/
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On August 20 2009 10:28 SugiuraMidori wrote:
During the last election I voted against anyone with mexican sounding last names.. it's just my thing to do! xD
wtf
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Ok, I have a mafia suspect.
On August 20 2009 10:21 SatouxKisei wrote:
I vote Zato-1
don't follow bandwagons, think this through everyone.
He hasn't posted in the main thread, and the fact that he's voting means he's active.
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1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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Day 2
The sun rises and the town wakes up to see everyone still alive.
Nobody has died tonight
Voting ends at 10:57 KST.
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I have posted in the main thread.
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Ok, we need a plan... I say we somehow find a digital copy of the files that were burned. I doubt it was all handwritten or printed via typewriter.
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Foolishness
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looks like the mafia were too busy spamming thread to send hit list...
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On August 20 2009 10:39 Foolishness wrote:
Go Go medic
or that...
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Ok no deaths. So either vet took a hit or medic stopped one. Medic is NOT INFORMED they made a save nor is their target informed of a save. Vet is informed, but they should not claim the hit because it confirms their role
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With no one dead.. the inactives look all that more suspicious to me.. anyone else agree?
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Can I have invite to pm circle?
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Well if it's a medic, claim to who you protted.
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On August 20 2009 10:38 SatouxKisei wrote:
I have posted in the main thread.
You are correct- my bad.
On August 20 2009 10:21 SatouxKisei wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:16 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 10:15 Zato-1 wrote:
Well, nevermind that. I thought the day was about to end.
Man, I hate not being able to edit my messages :p This is a terrible idea! Don't succumb to the bandwagon guys! I agree, don't listen to the bandwagon , everyone! If anything that makes you look really suspicious starting that randomly on a player who hasn't even defended himself yet
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 10:39 Chezinu wrote:
looks like the mafia were too busy spamming thread to send hit list...
Ironically, you would fit that role perfectly. What have you done that has been worthwhile to the town? Absolutely nothing.
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Wow I fail at reading the rules for like the 5th time.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 10:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Well if it's a medic, claim to who you protted.
Don't forget medic can save themselves!
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On August 20 2009 10:40 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:39 Chezinu wrote:
looks like the mafia were too busy spamming thread to send hit list... Ironically, you would fit that role perfectly. What have you done that has been worthwhile to the town? Absolutely nothing.
that was the joke, lol
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On August 20 2009 10:40 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:39 Chezinu wrote:
looks like the mafia were too busy spamming thread to send hit list... Ironically, you would fit that role perfectly. What have you done that has been worthwhile to the town? Absolutely nothing.
I agree fully.
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EBWOP: however, when medic dies, vet should claim if they took a hit. We don't want to hand the mafia new info, but we want to have as much info as possible without giving them anything new
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If I was medic I would have protected myself. Medic is invul whole game!
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 10:41 Chezinu wrote:
that was the joke, lol
Has everything else you posted in this thread been a joke to?
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On August 20 2009 10:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Well if it's a medic, claim to who you protted.
Absolutely not. The medic doesn't know they made a save.
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On August 20 2009 10:42 Foolishness wrote:Has everything else you posted in this thread been a joke to?
obv, Except the random generator was legit and Zato and his follower seem weird.
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On August 20 2009 10:42 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Well if it's a medic, claim to who you protted. Absolutely not. The medic doesn't know they made a save.
Yeah, that's why I posted above about how I failed at reading again.
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Okay, so. I'm still suspicious of SatouxKisei, because he was really fast to defend himself but he isn't contributing much. Anyone have a better suspect?
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On August 20 2009 10:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Okay, so. I'm still suspicious of SatouxKisei, because he was really fast to defend himself but he isn't contributing much. Anyone have a better suspect?
Him or Chez.. as they're both not contributing at all, same with the other two inactives.
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I'm clueless
lol, clueless
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1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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On August 20 2009 10:45 Chezinu wrote:
I'm clueless
lol, clueless
wtf
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On August 20 2009 10:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:wtf
more like useless
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yeah so either med or vet, or mafia was too tired.
anyway it looks like we're thinking abotu Chezinu for being a spambot? He posted the same way in Caller's game and was NKVD - though that game was a spamfest in general and he could be keeping the same strat with a different role
also I think it would be hilarious if Ace and Vivi were the mafia team, just cause Ace always bitches about Vivi hahah
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Being a martyr isn't entirely useless. Plus, I'm getting people to talk.
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On August 20 2009 10:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
yeah so either med or vet, or mafia was too tired.
anyway it looks like we're thinking abotu Chezinu for being a spambot? He posted the same way in Caller's game and was NKVD - though that game was a spamfest in general and he could be keeping the same strat with a different role
also I think it would be hilarious if Ace and Vivi were the mafia team, just cause Ace always bitches about Vivi hahah
Note: I've never ever been blue. I am brown. forever brown, brown forever. I was hoping Ace would play this game...
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 10:46 Chezinu wrote:
Being a martyr isn't entirely useless. Plus, I'm getting people to talk.
You could at least try to be a little more useful with it.
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On August 20 2009 10:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Okay, so. I'm still suspicious of SatouxKisei, because he was really fast to defend himself but he isn't contributing much. Anyone have a better suspect?
I agree with this.
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ebwop: although it wasn't really defending himself as much as correcting an error on your part.
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On August 20 2009 10:48 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
yeah so either med or vet, or mafia was too tired.
anyway it looks like we're thinking abotu Chezinu for being a spambot? He posted the same way in Caller's game and was NKVD - though that game was a spamfest in general and he could be keeping the same strat with a different role
also I think it would be hilarious if Ace and Vivi were the mafia team, just cause Ace always bitches about Vivi hahah
Note: I've never ever been blue. I am brown. forever brown, brown forever. I was hoping Ace would play this game...
Why are you voting for Midori?
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The fact that Chezinu is pointing at and voting for some of the more active town contributors gives him my vote so far.
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I need no justifications, only mafia needs that....
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On August 20 2009 10:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Okay, so. I'm still suspicious of SatouxKisei, because he was really fast to defend himself but he isn't contributing much. Anyone have a better suspect? I agree with this.
I can agree with this too. It also fits his play from the other game he was mafia. He was a bit implusive with his voting.
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EBWOP: I mean BC game 2. Kisei = Heavonearth
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On August 20 2009 10:50 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On August 20 2009 10:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Okay, so. I'm still suspicious of SatouxKisei, because he was really fast to defend himself but he isn't contributing much. Anyone have a better suspect? I agree with this. I can agree with this too. It also fits his play from the other game he was mafia. He was a bit implusive with his voting.
Yeah, maybe he is too impulsive. When he was mafia he never voted as crazy before...
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Foolishness
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SatouxKisei has been playing just like he was in other games when he was mafia.
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Look at this, another bandwagon, against Chezinu this time!. If you are town and want to win, we need to think rationally, and quick- we only have 6 ~ minutes remaining.
Yes i agree that lynching inactives is good, but what mafia would be so idiotic to stay inactive after tons of people advocating killing them. Most likely they are inactive townies, a shame, but we can still win, just don't waste time on them.
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Yeah, nevermind my previous post. Chezinu might be a mafia trying to get us to fight amongst ourselves, but I'm more suspicious of SatouxKisei.
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On August 20 2009 10:51 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:50 Qatol wrote:On August 20 2009 10:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On August 20 2009 10:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Okay, so. I'm still suspicious of SatouxKisei, because he was really fast to defend himself but he isn't contributing much. Anyone have a better suspect? I agree with this. I can agree with this too. It also fits his play from the other game he was mafia. He was a bit implusive with his voting. Yeah, maybe he is too impulsive. When he was mafia he never voted as crazy before...
Yes he did. His election vote (the only vote he did without asking first) was insane. He voted sog without sog even running (sog was in our family).
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Yeah lets kill SatouxKisei, it would be bad if I turn up green if I died. I would never ever be blue.
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On August 20 2009 10:52 SatouxKisei wrote:
Look at this, another bandwagon, against Chezinu this time!. If you are town and want to win, we need to think rationally, and quick- we only have 6 ~ minutes remaining.
Yes i agree that lynching inactives is good, but what mafia would be so idiotic to stay inactive after tons of people advocating killing them. Most likely they are inactive townies, a shame, but we can still win, just don't waste time on them.
actually the wagon is on you now
defend yourself please
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1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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o shit wtf 5 hours passed fast
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On August 20 2009 10:53 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:51 Chezinu wrote:On August 20 2009 10:50 Qatol wrote:On August 20 2009 10:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On August 20 2009 10:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Okay, so. I'm still suspicious of SatouxKisei, because he was really fast to defend himself but he isn't contributing much. Anyone have a better suspect? I agree with this. I can agree with this too. It also fits his play from the other game he was mafia. He was a bit implusive with his voting. Yeah, maybe he is too impulsive. When he was mafia he never voted as crazy before... Yes he did. His election vote (the only vote he did without asking first) was insane. He voted sog without sog even running (sog was in our family).
oh, lol. I thought you talking about me. I didn't click quote spoiler to check. lol.
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Foolishness
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Yeah I'm definitely worried about this. If he defends himself well I will change my vote for sure.
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There's not much time- so just take a look at peopel after my death, the list and bandwagon against me, not the followers but the ones who started it
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1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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voted = underlined
1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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Ace, I voted to save you just so you know...
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The town gazed grimly at SatouxKisei as he was led up to the guillotine. Would he be another mistake, or the beginning of a victory? As his head flew, the town cheered and roared as SatouxKisei was revealed to be mafia.
Night roles PM me your actions by 11:09 KST.
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I totally owned him by defending him
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can someone update me on everything that happened? I skimmed and saw people suggesting to lynch me?
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On August 20 2009 10:58 Ace wrote:
can someone update me on everything that happened? I skimmed and saw people suggesting to lynch me?
I saved you and helped kill sat by defending him
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You were inactive, Ace, looked like mafia hiding elsewhere chatting is all. But Chez has been making love to you all game... bout it.
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voted = underlined
1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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On August 20 2009 10:58 Ace wrote:
can someone update me on everything that happened? I skimmed and saw people suggesting to lynch me?
You were inactive. Lynch day 1 was because JimTudor advocated not lynching anyone (which doesn't give us any info). Mafia didn't get any hits so either they hit the vet or the medic blocked (medic isn't informed of prots so we can't be told which) and then we decided Kisei was a bit fast in defending himself, which fits his profile when mafia.
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On August 20 2009 10:58 Ace wrote:
can someone update me on everything that happened? I skimmed and saw people suggesting to lynch me?
lol nice of you to show up. people were voting for you because you've been AWOL obviously.
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Anyone have an idea for a vigi hit name?
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Also as medic you are invul this game and only can die by lynches.
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is TL going loading slow for anyone else right now
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oh crap, it was an hour earlier, I thought it was supposed to be an hour later
catching up now
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On August 20 2009 11:01 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
is TL going loading slow for anyone else right now
No, you just need to stop using dialup ;P
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i stopped like 6 years ago
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ok, the being mute theory was wrong...they were in a coma and that's why I defended them.
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ok so Sato snitched on himself lulz
Medics aren't informed of prots? :/ That sucks.
Vigi shouldn't hit anyone until they are solid the person is red.
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voted = underlined
dead = italic
1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
I suspect that now that mafia has lost a friend they are coming out of the woodwork with bogus excuses in order to look innocent.
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On August 20 2009 11:01 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
is TL going loading slow for anyone else right now
not for me now
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Foolishness
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I do find it very odd that two people have come out of being "afk" right after a red gets lynched (or Ace came right before the day was over iirc)
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On August 20 2009 11:05 Foolishness wrote:
I do find it very odd that two people have come out of being "afk" right after a red gets lynched (or Ace came right before the day was over iirc)
yeah, especially when it was almost an hour into the game..like the time it was originally set to begin...
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On August 20 2009 11:05 Foolishness wrote:
I do find it very odd that two people have come out of being "afk" right after a red gets lynched (or Ace came right before the day was over iirc)
maybe their only plant in the town died and they need a new one?
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:06 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:05 Foolishness wrote:
I do find it very odd that two people have come out of being "afk" right after a red gets lynched (or Ace came right before the day was over iirc) yeah, especially when it was almost an hour into the game..like the time it was originally set to begin...
Oh whoops missed that. Thank you.
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On August 20 2009 11:06 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:05 Foolishness wrote:
I do find it very odd that two people have come out of being "afk" right after a red gets lynched (or Ace came right before the day was over iirc) maybe their only plant in the town died and they need a new one?
Yeah, I like this one. This one excludes me from being mafia. and makes me more like an invul medic.
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Actually I really was playing DOTA. I really did forget about the game. If I was Mafia do you really think I'd make myself suspicious like this?
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On August 20 2009 11:08 Ace wrote:
Actually I really was playing DOTA. I really did forget about the game. If I was Mafia do you really think I'd make myself suspicious like this?
How can we believe a comment like that? Your play is UNPREDICTABLE!
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On August 20 2009 11:08 Ace wrote:
Actually I really was playing DOTA. I really did forget about the game. If I was Mafia do you really think I'd make myself suspicious like this?
The key to your disguise is your insanity.
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:/
Well enough about me, what are we doing right now?
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On August 20 2009 11:08 Ace wrote:
Actually I really was playing DOTA. I really did forget about the game. If I was Mafia do you really think I'd make myself suspicious like this?
I have no reason to think you've been lurking for an hour. That said, it's not easy to get a feel for your role given your low post count.
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Ver says day post is delayed because he can't check his PMs due to TL lagging
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On August 20 2009 11:10 Qatol wrote:
Ver says day post is delayed because he can't check his PMs due to TL lagging
Lol weird it is working fine for me O_O
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On August 20 2009 11:10 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:08 Ace wrote:
Actually I really was playing DOTA. I really did forget about the game. If I was Mafia do you really think I'd make myself suspicious like this? I have no reason to think you've been lurking for an hour. That said, it's not easy to get a feel for your role given your low post count.
I will never forget your blueness...
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this sucks...I'm a vowel...I could easily die to spell something...
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On August 20 2009 11:16 Chezinu wrote:
this sucks...I'm a vowel...I could easily die to spell something...
if the mafia is trying to spell something, why would they start with a space?
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Day 3
It was a long night. It was also cold. So cold that Ver couldn't get on TL.net and his computer froze. Chezinu also died from hypothermia in the cold.
Voting ends at 11:43 KST.
I am now taking over again. PMs can be sent to me.
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woot, ty. I needed to go afk, thanks.
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ok, looking back sugiuri looks suspicious
he's posted a bunch, but most of it is just fluff about inactives. The other half of his posts are complaining about people not contributing.
doing a good job of looking active without actually doing anything
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1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM
8. Qatol
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
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Foolishness
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I think Zato is doing a better job of contributing without contributing. His stuff has all been ignored.
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zato was the one that brought up Satoux
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On August 20 2009 11:20 Vivi57 wrote:
ok, looking back sugiuri looks suspicious
he's posted a bunch, but most of it is just fluff about inactives. The other half of his posts are complaining about people not contributing.
doing a good job of looking active without actually doing anything
She... and I'm in a confirmed townie group talking to those people more than here since it was mostly just Chez spamming till now.
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Hm. Mixed feelings about this- losing a townie sucks, but Chezinu was highest on my suspect list, so at least there's no chance of wasting a lynch on him anymore. Looking at Ace and Vivi atm, they haven't posted anything of relevance so far.
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on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
zato was the one that brought up Satoux
I started the vote though. He didn't come in until later.
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On August 20 2009 11:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
zato was the one that brought up Satoux
That pretty much ups Zeto's innocence. If he was really anti-town I doubt he'd want to cast a spotlight on his own Mafia ally. Especially in a game this small.
Other than this there aren't even any patterns yet are there? Day 1 votes don't seem too telling.
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On August 20 2009 11:23 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
zato was the one that brought up Satoux I started the vote though. He didn't come in until later.
oh you voted before he made the post? ok, but he still posted about it in the thread where it's noticed
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday
Why would we kill him then if we were mafia?
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On August 20 2009 11:23 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
zato was the one that brought up Satoux I started the vote though. He didn't come in until later.
Even then, it'd be stupid to sacrifice another mafia
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On August 20 2009 11:24 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday Why would we kill him then if we were mafia?
Agreed. If anything, it makes them LESS suspicious, not more. Why put a bunch of suspicion on someone only to kill them?
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On August 20 2009 11:24 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday Why would we kill him then if we were mafia?
touche, good sir.
i could submit the answer that it was a missed bluesnipe. but i don't think that's the case here! you are right.
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I won't talk about who I am, you're all doing a pretty good job of figuring that out. We need to look for someone to lynch, though.
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On August 20 2009 11:24 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday Why would we kill him then if we were mafia?
Why not? Just because you accused someone doesn't hold weight. It would be one thing if you accused Chezinu and the town rallied behind you but you didn't have time to lynch. Then it would have been dumb to kill him. However that didn't happen. You accused him, but no one really went with it. By killing Chezinu you lose nothing since you didn't have any support in the first place.
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how about pyrr?
On August 20 2009 10:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I'm not really sure what to suspect except maybe JimTudor for trying to not lynch?
and then mostly non-game discussion posts
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:24 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday Why would we kill him then if we were mafia? Why not? Just because you accused someone doesn't hold weight. It would be one thing if you accused Chezinu and the town rallied behind you but you didn't have time to lynch. Then it would have been dumb to kill him. However that didn't happen. You accused him, but no one really went with it. By killing Chezinu you lose nothing since you didn't have any support in the first place.
It would seem rather out of place, more than anything. I don't particularly think Chezinu was a good hit, unless there was reason to think he was blue. Chezinu drew a lot of attention to himself, he seemed more beneficial to the mafia alive than dead.
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On August 20 2009 11:30 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:28 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 11:24 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday Why would we kill him then if we were mafia? Why not? Just because you accused someone doesn't hold weight. It would be one thing if you accused Chezinu and the town rallied behind you but you didn't have time to lynch. Then it would have been dumb to kill him. However that didn't happen. You accused him, but no one really went with it. By killing Chezinu you lose nothing since you didn't have any support in the first place. It would seem rather out of place, more than anything. I don't particularly think Chezinu was a good hit, unless there was reason to think he was blue. Chezinu drew a lot of attention to himself, he seemed more beneficial to the mafia alive than dead.
Yeh with all the focus on him being useless a lynch would have been wasted on him instead. So it is an interesting turn.
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I think we should lynch Infundibulum. Look at his posts on this page. He is throwing out names rather quickly with just one line justifications of each suspect hoping we will latch onto them. This is throwing up red flags to me
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On August 20 2009 11:30 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:28 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 11:24 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
on the other hand both Foolishness and Midori accused Chezinu yesterday Why would we kill him then if we were mafia? Why not? Just because you accused someone doesn't hold weight. It would be one thing if you accused Chezinu and the town rallied behind you but you didn't have time to lynch. Then it would have been dumb to kill him. However that didn't happen. You accused him, but no one really went with it. By killing Chezinu you lose nothing since you didn't have any support in the first place. It would seem rather out of place, more than anything. I don't particularly think Chezinu was a good hit, unless there was reason to think he was blue. Chezinu drew a lot of attention to himself, he seemed more beneficial to the mafia alive than dead.
I understand what you're saying but it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Chezinu seemed normal :/
Either way I guess the good news is no one super valuable has been killed yet (lol sorry Chez)
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On August 20 2009 11:29 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:how about pyrr? Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I'm not really sure what to suspect except maybe JimTudor for trying to not lynch? and then mostly non-game discussion posts
On August 20 2009 10:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:48 Chezinu wrote:On August 20 2009 10:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
yeah so either med or vet, or mafia was too tired.
anyway it looks like we're thinking abotu Chezinu for being a spambot? He posted the same way in Caller's game and was NKVD - though that game was a spamfest in general and he could be keeping the same strat with a different role
also I think it would be hilarious if Ace and Vivi were the mafia team, just cause Ace always bitches about Vivi hahah
Note: I've never ever been blue. I am brown. forever brown, brown forever. I was hoping Ace would play this game... Why are you voting for Midori?
1. They're both mafia, pyrr trying to cover midori
2. pyrr is just a townie with a legitimate question
tons more possibilities, I'll keep thinking
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8 minutes till end of voting.
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On August 20 2009 11:29 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:how about pyrr? Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I'm not really sure what to suspect except maybe JimTudor for trying to not lynch? and then mostly non-game discussion posts
ya non-game discussion posts like what medics should do if they prot someone, and inactivity vs advocating lynch wasting, and how we should interpret people coming out of inactivity, and I don't really want to go through the rest of my posts but yeah
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hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning.
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On August 20 2009 11:32 Qatol wrote:
I think we should lynch Infundibulum. Look at his posts on this page. He is throwing out names rather quickly with just one line justifications of each suspect hoping we will latch onto them. This is throwing up red flags to me
Yes, i'm posting quickly without thinking too hard. This is evident cause I clearly didn't think through my post when I brought up Fool and Midori talking about Chezinu, ingoring the fact the mafia killed Chez anyway.
the only person I really brought up was Pyrr, because I'm trying to generate discussion on a person - not outright accuse him. If you think Pyrr is a bad lynch say you should say why
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:36 Ace wrote:
hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning.
Do you have a better candidate? Outside of me since I can't really vote for myself
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On August 20 2009 11:34 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:29 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:how about pyrr? On August 20 2009 10:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I'm not really sure what to suspect except maybe JimTudor for trying to not lynch? and then mostly non-game discussion posts Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 20 2009 10:48 Chezinu wrote:On August 20 2009 10:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
yeah so either med or vet, or mafia was too tired.
anyway it looks like we're thinking abotu Chezinu for being a spambot? He posted the same way in Caller's game and was NKVD - though that game was a spamfest in general and he could be keeping the same strat with a different role
also I think it would be hilarious if Ace and Vivi were the mafia team, just cause Ace always bitches about Vivi hahah
Note: I've never ever been blue. I am brown. forever brown, brown forever. I was hoping Ace would play this game... Why are you voting for Midori? 1. They're both mafia, pyrr trying to cover midori 2. pyrr is just a townie with a legitimate question tons more possibilities, I'll keep thinking
How would it be an illegitimate question? As far as I know he gave no reason prior to the vote and I wanted to know if there was a reason so I could evaluate it.
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On August 20 2009 11:37 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:36 Ace wrote:
hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning. Do you have a better candidate? Outside of me since I can't really vote for myself
well between you, Qatol and Pyrr something isn't right
1.) You voted for Inf
2.) Qatol votes for Inf and THEN posts a reason for it
3.) Pyrr votes for inf and also posts a reason
Seems odd doesn't it? Especially since you're vote came in first before any reasonings.
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I don't get why you'd suspect me as red, I already made a massively stupid mistake of declaring what I was..
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3 minutes till end of voting.
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Guys, I'm town aligned. I brought up Pyrr because he was in the back of my mind and I wanted the town discussion to move off of Chezinu getting killed, because we needed to discuss lynch targets. It seemf many of you are against lynching Pyrr, I am fine with that but the alternative should not be lynchign me. Listen to Ace ffs
Do not vote for me.
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On August 20 2009 11:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:34 Vivi57 wrote:On August 20 2009 11:29 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:how about pyrr? On August 20 2009 10:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I'm not really sure what to suspect except maybe JimTudor for trying to not lynch? and then mostly non-game discussion posts On August 20 2009 10:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 20 2009 10:48 Chezinu wrote:On August 20 2009 10:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
yeah so either med or vet, or mafia was too tired.
anyway it looks like we're thinking abotu Chezinu for being a spambot? He posted the same way in Caller's game and was NKVD - though that game was a spamfest in general and he could be keeping the same strat with a different role
also I think it would be hilarious if Ace and Vivi were the mafia team, just cause Ace always bitches about Vivi hahah
Note: I've never ever been blue. I am brown. forever brown, brown forever. I was hoping Ace would play this game... Why are you voting for Midori? 1. They're both mafia, pyrr trying to cover midori 2. pyrr is just a townie with a legitimate question tons more possibilities, I'll keep thinking How would it be an illegitimate question? As far as I know he gave no reason prior to the vote and I wanted to know if there was a reason so I could evaluate it.
it wouldn't be
either way, lynching you would be a bad play. Lynching midori would give us more information. If he flips green, you're green, otherwise we try and figure out if you're mafia.
What information do we gain by lynching inf?
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Well, then. No good candidates so far- the best I can come up with so far is Pyrrhuloxia, 'cause his posts have been mostly one-liners and errors, at least for several pages.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:39 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:37 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:36 Ace wrote:
hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning. Do you have a better candidate? Outside of me since I can't really vote for myself well between you, Qatol and Pyrr something isn't right 1.) You voted for Inf 2.) Qatol votes for Inf and THEN posts a reason for it 3.) Pyrr votes for inf and also posts a reason Seems odd doesn't it? Especially since you're vote came in first before any reasonings.
I agree with that. I cannot speak on their behalf, but I have been switching votes and starting the "bandwagons" or whatever all game. I started the vote on Satoux yesterday as well, which should be clear indication that I am not suspect.
But like I said, I cannot speak on behalf of Qatol and Pyrry. Qatol has been following me everywhere, maybe he has a crush on me?
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On August 20 2009 11:39 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:37 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:36 Ace wrote:
hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning. Do you have a better candidate? Outside of me since I can't really vote for myself well between you, Qatol and Pyrr something isn't right 1.) You voted for Inf 2.) Qatol votes for Inf and THEN posts a reason for it 3.) Pyrr votes for inf and also posts a reason Seems odd doesn't it? Especially since you're vote came in first before any reasonings.
You're really worried that I voted before posting my reasoning? Maybe I voted while figuring out exactly what to write because it's a speed game?
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On August 20 2009 11:36 Ace wrote:
hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning.
Well he threw my name out because my posts were supposedly not game-related which is objectively false. Qatol went after satouxkisei correctly so I think his reasoning is pretty good. Also, Foolishness gave me reasoning in PM prior to voting FWIW.
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On August 20 2009 11:42 Foolishness wrote:
But like I said, I cannot speak on behalf of Qatol and Pyrry. Qatol has been following me everywhere, maybe he has a crush on me?
You know I love you <3
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Glad to see you got to use me somehow 
sorry just got home lol
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Because of lag problems (multiple people have confirmed problems) voting has been extended for 5 minutes. Get your votes in people.
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On August 20 2009 11:42 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:39 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 11:37 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:36 Ace wrote:
hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning. Do you have a better candidate? Outside of me since I can't really vote for myself well between you, Qatol and Pyrr something isn't right 1.) You voted for Inf 2.) Qatol votes for Inf and THEN posts a reason for it 3.) Pyrr votes for inf and also posts a reason Seems odd doesn't it? Especially since you're vote came in first before any reasonings. You're really worried that I voted before posting my reasoning? Maybe I voted while figuring out exactly what to write because it's a speed game?
no, that was more for Foolishness. As in 2 of you had reasons, he didn't. And he voted first of all 3 of you.
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On August 20 2009 11:43 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:36 Ace wrote:
hold on a sec. Three of you voted for Inf out of no where with barely any reasoning except that he's throwing names out. That happens every mafia game. And Foolishness voted for Inf out of no where first with no reasoning. Well he threw my name out because my posts were supposedly not game-related which is objectively false. Qatol went after satouxkisei correctly so I think his reasoning is pretty good. Also, Foolishness gave me reasoning in PM prior to voting FWIW.
Not really - you have ~15 posts this game and I'd say about 5-6 say anything that's really relevant
regardless, it seems I was mistaken
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Jesus christ
get your heads out of your collective asses guys
NOBODY ELSE WAS BRINGING UP LYNCH DISCUSSION SO I DECIDED TO. BECAUSE OF THIS IM THE ONE THAT GETS KILLED?
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listen to ace.
lynching inf based on a weak lead when three people are so suspicious is bad. Not only that, we don't have any follow up plan if inf flips green.
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You're mistakingly voting for me.. that's plenty of reason to vote for you.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:47 Ace wrote:
no, that was more for Foolishness. As in 2 of you had reasons, he didn't. And he voted first of all 3 of you.
Right now our vote is practically a crapshoot. You have yet to accuse/do anything, so I'm pretty sure we're all in the same boat here. It's better to vote for someone to get discussion going. I have been changing votes all game, it fits with what I'm trying to do here.
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Ok, in my last post I said "Also, Foolishness gave me reasoning in PM prior to voting FWIW."
But I reread my pm and it said: "What do you think about Zato? I want to make a movement against him the next day as I think he is mafia." So it was actually about Zato and not infun and also didn't have a reason. Qatol had been talking to me about infun and I got confused. Anyway, Foolishness also PMed me to say he was also suspicious of Chezinu which makes him seem more innocent in my mind because a mafia wouldn't want to push for a lynch on someone they were about to kill anyway.
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Night 3:
After much? debate the town decided to lynch infundibulum. Too bad, since Infundibulum was a medic.
Night roles, you have until 11:58 KST to send in your night actions.
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EVERYONE change your votes to vivi for now
No time for reason yet will explain shortly
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Ah hell... you kidding me....that's what I get for listening to Qatol and Pyrr.. :/
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Foolishness
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Good job roleclaiming dude
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EBWOP: crap. Infundi roleclaimed to me right before that happened. Sorry man, I tried.
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ah well
may you all learn your lesson >
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On August 20 2009 11:49 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:47 Ace wrote:
no, that was more for Foolishness. As in 2 of you had reasons, he didn't. And he voted first of all 3 of you. Right now our vote is practically a crapshoot. You have yet to accuse/do anything, so I'm pretty sure we're all in the same boat here. It's better to vote for someone to get discussion going. I have been changing votes all game, it fits with what I'm trying to do here.
actually no, I've been watching. I always try to play in a way that avoids innocent deaths. You guys bandwagoned Inf to death. Switching around votes randomly just makes it easier for Mafia to bandwagon. Right now you, Qatol, Pyrr, and Zato are all suspects. Wouldn't you agree?
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also Midori too, I didn't even realize he voted.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 11:53 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:49 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:47 Ace wrote:
no, that was more for Foolishness. As in 2 of you had reasons, he didn't. And he voted first of all 3 of you. Right now our vote is practically a crapshoot. You have yet to accuse/do anything, so I'm pretty sure we're all in the same boat here. It's better to vote for someone to get discussion going. I have been changing votes all game, it fits with what I'm trying to do here. actually no, I've been watching. I always try to play in a way that avoids innocent deaths. You guys bandwagoned Inf to death. Switching around votes randomly just makes it easier for Mafia to bandwagon. Right now you, Qatol, Pyrr, and Zato are all suspects. Wouldn't you agree?
As a matter of fact, I would. I can defend myself by saying that my behavior against infundibulum has been consistent with the previous days, as I have previously said. infundibulum did a great job roleclaiming to the town too, especially telling Qatol at the last minute.
To give my reasonings again, I have been moving around votes all game to get discussion going. I started the lynch on Satoux, which helps proves my innocence. Pyrry has laid out some important information pertaining to this as well. I can understand if you want to think Pyrry and I as the two remaining mafia, as that would make sense, but that's simply not the case.
I cannot speak on behalf of other people though. Qatol's posts in the thread annoy me to death, Pyrry is unusually quiet (of course without clues he's nearly useless).
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She... and I just voted for the last person that voted for me.
But I'm still suspicious of Ace and Vivi
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Foolishness told me we would learn things from Infundibulum's death. I am awaiting said analysis.
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so what do we make of qatol posting to not lynch inf well over 60 seconds AFTER the lynch
I'm inbetween midori, qatol, and pyrr
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On August 20 2009 11:58 Zato-1 wrote:
Foolishness told me we would learn things from Infundibulum's death. I am awaiting said analysis.
Did foolish know something we do not? And in doing so helped the mafia take out our medic?
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Day 4
SugiuraMidori was running down the street frantically trying to collect information to help the town when he was sniped in the back.
Voting ends at 12:25 KST.
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Foolishness
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Look guys, as I said before, anyone voting with me looks far more guilty than me. I did convince Zato to vote with me. My behavior has been consistent all game. If Satoux had come up blue, this exact conversation would have happened a day early, because I started the vote on that. You need to be looking at people voting with me and who's not voting with me on these things.
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oh, that makes our life easier
qatol or pyrr now
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On August 20 2009 11:53 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:49 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:47 Ace wrote:
no, that was more for Foolishness. As in 2 of you had reasons, he didn't. And he voted first of all 3 of you. Right now our vote is practically a crapshoot. You have yet to accuse/do anything, so I'm pretty sure we're all in the same boat here. It's better to vote for someone to get discussion going. I have been changing votes all game, it fits with what I'm trying to do here. actually no, I've been watching. I always try to play in a way that avoids innocent deaths. You guys bandwagoned Inf to death. Switching around votes randomly just makes it easier for Mafia to bandwagon. Right now you, Qatol, Pyrr, and Zato are all suspects. Wouldn't you agree?
I can understand your suspicion of foolish, qatol, and myself at this point but why Zato, if I may ask? He changed his vote a lot but that last minute switch from me to infun wouldn't seem like something a mafia would do since infun looked dead already and a mafia would have known infun was innocent.
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On August 20 2009 11:57 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:53 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 11:49 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:47 Ace wrote:
no, that was more for Foolishness. As in 2 of you had reasons, he didn't. And he voted first of all 3 of you. Right now our vote is practically a crapshoot. You have yet to accuse/do anything, so I'm pretty sure we're all in the same boat here. It's better to vote for someone to get discussion going. I have been changing votes all game, it fits with what I'm trying to do here. actually no, I've been watching. I always try to play in a way that avoids innocent deaths. You guys bandwagoned Inf to death. Switching around votes randomly just makes it easier for Mafia to bandwagon. Right now you, Qatol, Pyrr, and Zato are all suspects. Wouldn't you agree? As a matter of fact, I would. I can defend myself by saying that my behavior against infundibulum has been consistent with the previous days, as I have previously said. infundibulum did a great job roleclaiming to the town too, especially telling Qatol at the last minute. To give my reasonings again, I have been moving around votes all game to get discussion going. I started the lynch on Satoux, which helps proves my innocence. Pyrry has laid out some important information pertaining to this as well. I can understand if you want to think Pyrry and I as the two remaining mafia, as that would make sense, but that's simply not the case. I cannot speak on behalf of other people though. Qatol's posts in the thread annoy me to death, Pyrry is unusually quiet (of course without clues he's nearly useless).
The Sato thing is over and done with but it does look good for you. I'm just saying you can't go around starting bandwagons, and when they turn out wrong act like it's just an oops moment. One of you guys has to pay.
@Midori: Ok be suspicious of me but I didnt get a medic killed did I.
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Folks: Let's direct further analysis towards a suspect. I'm all for people defending my innocence, but we need to lynch someone today. What do you all think of Qatol? I'm going to look over his posts now.
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On August 20 2009 12:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 11:53 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 11:49 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 11:47 Ace wrote:
no, that was more for Foolishness. As in 2 of you had reasons, he didn't. And he voted first of all 3 of you. Right now our vote is practically a crapshoot. You have yet to accuse/do anything, so I'm pretty sure we're all in the same boat here. It's better to vote for someone to get discussion going. I have been changing votes all game, it fits with what I'm trying to do here. actually no, I've been watching. I always try to play in a way that avoids innocent deaths. You guys bandwagoned Inf to death. Switching around votes randomly just makes it easier for Mafia to bandwagon. Right now you, Qatol, Pyrr, and Zato are all suspects. Wouldn't you agree? I can understand your suspicion of foolish, qatol, and myself at this point but why Zato, if I may ask? He changed his vote a lot but that last minute switch from me to infun wouldn't seem like something a mafia would do since infun looked dead already and a mafia would have known infun was innocent.
Which would actually be a good Mafia defense don't you think?
"I can't be Mafia, my vote didn't even change anything!"
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On August 20 2009 12:06 Zato-1 wrote:
Folks: Let's direct further analysis towards a suspect. I'm all for people defending my innocence, but we need to lynch someone today. What do you all think of Qatol? I'm going to look over his posts now.
Don't just stop at my posts. Look at my voting record too.
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On August 20 2009 11:47 Ace wrote:@Midori: Ok be suspicious of me but I didnt get a medic killed did I.
Yes, you've been surprisingly good at not getting anyone killed. And yet one of us will die every night.
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two days in a row foolishness voted right before qatol to start a bandwagon
the first day they got satoux
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Here's another piece of food for thought: Infundibulum claimed he protected me night 1. While it may not be true and may not matter, it could also tell you what happened to that hit. Obviously, I cannot prove this, but I'll bet he didn't make that claim to anyone else.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 12:09 Vivi57 wrote:
two days in a row foolishness voted right before qatol to start a bandwagon
the first day they got satoux
Why would we kill one of our own?
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Two days in a row foolishness voted right before qatol without posting reasoning
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Qatol if Infundibulum was a Medic how could he safely make that claim to you? He'd never know your role
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On August 20 2009 12:12 Ace wrote:Qatol if Infundibulum was a Medic how could he safely make that claim to you? He'd never know your role
He roleclaimed to me shortly before dying, and that information was included. Hence my post trying to change the vote to vivi at the last second. Sadly, it didn't matter.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 12:12 Vivi57 wrote:
Two days in a row foolishness voted right before qatol without posting reasoning
You really seem advent on killing me. I can't blame Ace for wanting to kill me, at least he has good reasoning to. You on the other hand look like a mafia blending in with him.
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ace, by accusing qatol, you're saying that he would sacrifice one of his own to gain the town's trust
No mafia has ever done that and I don't think qatol would be the one to start in a game this small
pyrr it is
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 12:17 Vivi57 wrote:
ace, by accusing qatol, you're saying that he would sacrifice one of his own to gain the town's trust
No mafia has ever done that and I don't think qatol would be the one to start in a game this small
pyrr it is
The more I have to read your posts the more mafia I see.
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@Vivi: How has he sacrificed his own? You guys all said Sato pretty much told on himself so how is that relevant?
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On August 20 2009 12:15 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:12 Vivi57 wrote:
Two days in a row foolishness voted right before qatol without posting reasoning You really seem advent on killing me. I can't blame Ace for wanting to kill me, at least he has good reasoning to. You on the other hand look like a mafia blending in with him.
I never said I wanted to kill you
I think you're almost definitely innocent, even if you are qatol's puppet
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Ace, you haven't been very active this game. Why is that?
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On August 20 2009 12:18 Ace wrote:
@Vivi: How has he sacrificed his own? You guys all said Sato pretty much told on himself so how is that relevant?
where was that?
I came late so I just skimmed the first pages. Matched up times in the voting thread to see qatol calling out satoux in the thread
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By 'inactive', I mean unhelpful in finding mafia. @Ace
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On August 20 2009 12:19 Zato-1 wrote:
Ace, you haven't been very active this game. Why is that?
Your kidding right? You mean I haven't just started accusing everyone of being mafia all willy nilly is more like it. I've only focused on the mistakes that I've seen this game and the fact that some of you except Foolishness won't even embrace is it is suspicious. Pyrr had a so-so defense. But you and Qatol have pretty much ignored me.
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Foolishness
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On August 20 2009 12:18 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:15 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 12:12 Vivi57 wrote:
Two days in a row foolishness voted right before qatol without posting reasoning You really seem advent on killing me. I can't blame Ace for wanting to kill me, at least he has good reasoning to. You on the other hand look like a mafia blending in with him. I never said I wanted to kill you I think you're almost definitely innocent, even if you are qatol's puppet
Where you got that information confounds me. I do not wish to be associated with him like that. I do not believe him to be mafia. If you can tell me why you're not mafia I'll gladly start looking elsewhere.
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On August 20 2009 12:20 Zato-1 wrote:
By 'inactive', I mean unhelpful in finding mafia. @Ace
we've only found 1, what do you want me to do magically pull one out my hat?
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Okay, then. Player list:
Foolishness
Zato-1
Vivi57
Ace
Qatol
Pyrr
Of them, I've been checking Qatol and I find him to be innocent. I'll also ask you to remember I was working with Sugiura all game, and she's town-aligned. I'm leaning towards Vivi57 or Ace.
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voting extended by 5 minutes. Get your votes in please.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 12:21 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:19 Zato-1 wrote:
Ace, you haven't been very active this game. Why is that? Your kidding right? You mean I haven't just started accusing everyone of being mafia all willy nilly is more like it. I've only focused on the mistakes that I've seen this game and the fact that some of you except Foolishness won't even embrace is it is suspicious. Pyrr had a so-so defense. But you and Qatol have pretty much ignored me.
I convinced Zato to vote for infundibulum at the last minute. I do not believe we should be looking at Zato, but rather other people.
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On August 20 2009 12:22 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:20 Zato-1 wrote:
By 'inactive', I mean unhelpful in finding mafia. @Ace we've only found 1, what do you want me to do magically pull one out my hat?
No, but I'd expect you to try to help us find one. Which you haven't done.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Okay this needs to come out right now.
I am the detective. I have checked both Qatol and Pyrry, and both have turned up green. This should help explain why things happened the way they did.
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On August 20 2009 12:23 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:21 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 12:19 Zato-1 wrote:
Ace, you haven't been very active this game. Why is that? Your kidding right? You mean I haven't just started accusing everyone of being mafia all willy nilly is more like it. I've only focused on the mistakes that I've seen this game and the fact that some of you except Foolishness won't even embrace is it is suspicious. Pyrr had a so-so defense. But you and Qatol have pretty much ignored me. I convinced Zato to vote for infundibulum at the last minute. I do not believe we should be looking at Zato, but rather other people.
just because you did that doesn't mean he's town aligned.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
I have also checked midori, which is kind of a moot point now though.
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On August 20 2009 12:25 Foolishness wrote:
Okay this needs to come out right now.
I am the detective. I have checked both Qatol and Pyrry, and both have turned up green. This should help explain why things happened the way they did.
I am green so I can confirm that.
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I know my role, so to me, Foolishness' statement reads, "Vivi and Ace are mafia". I find this plausible. Bye bye, Vivi.
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then that leaves ace and zato as mafia?
sorry for playing badly. I posted earlier that midori flipping green meant pyrr was probably green, but forgot about it
oh well
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On August 20 2009 12:25 Foolishness wrote:
Okay this needs to come out right now.
I am the detective. I have checked both Qatol and Pyrry, and both have turned up green. This should help explain why things happened the way they did.
Ok Foolishness, you see the wagon right? Seriously man. Just look at the voting thread.
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ok, I'm completely lost, I'll just watch now
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On August 20 2009 12:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:25 Foolishness wrote:
Okay this needs to come out right now.
I am the detective. I have checked both Qatol and Pyrry, and both have turned up green. This should help explain why things happened the way they did. Ok Foolishness, you see the wagon right? Seriously man. Just look at the voting thread.
Wagon's a bit big for the remaining of mafia, don't you think? 2 mafia left 3 people claiming to be working together being coordinated by rolechecks. So the conclusion is mafia?
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Night 4:
The finger pointing continued as the town draw near its final breath. Anxious to see red blood, the town lynched Vivi57
All roles send in your actions for the night. You have until 12:37 KST.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 12:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:25 Foolishness wrote:
Okay this needs to come out right now.
I am the detective. I have checked both Qatol and Pyrry, and both have turned up green. This should help explain why things happened the way they did. Ok Foolishness, you see the wagon right? Seriously man. Just look at the voting thread.
Yes I do. But what better choice is there right now? I feel really bad cause your logic is just as legit as mine. If i turn up wrong and you're right than that's just how things happened. As far as I know, Pyrry and Qatol are green.
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On August 20 2009 12:30 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:28 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 12:25 Foolishness wrote:
Okay this needs to come out right now.
I am the detective. I have checked both Qatol and Pyrry, and both have turned up green. This should help explain why things happened the way they did. Ok Foolishness, you see the wagon right? Seriously man. Just look at the voting thread. Wagon's a bit big for the remaining of mafia, don't you think? 2 mafia left 3 people claiming to be working together being coordinated by rolechecks. So the conclusion is mafia?
Yea because it's the SAME people that got it wrong the first time. You mean to tell me you guys shouldn't be looking at your little group for the answers as to where the suspicions should go?
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and look at the shit you did now
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 12:31 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 12:30 Qatol wrote:On August 20 2009 12:28 Ace wrote:On August 20 2009 12:25 Foolishness wrote:
Okay this needs to come out right now.
I am the detective. I have checked both Qatol and Pyrry, and both have turned up green. This should help explain why things happened the way they did. Ok Foolishness, you see the wagon right? Seriously man. Just look at the voting thread. Wagon's a bit big for the remaining of mafia, don't you think? 2 mafia left 3 people claiming to be working together being coordinated by rolechecks. So the conclusion is mafia? Yea because it's the SAME people that got it wrong the first time. You mean to tell me you guys shouldn't be looking at your little group for the answers as to where the suspicions should go?
I do realize that. The problem is these same people, save Zato, are the people I know who are clean. I do not think Zato is mafia based on our little chat, but I could be totally wrong, at which case it's looking like I am. I could have role checked the GF, although why I'm still alive I have no idea in that case.
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If we have a Vigi... you need to hit Foolishness. He is most definitely mafia.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
That would be the most unwise decision
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On August 20 2009 12:34 Zato-1 wrote:
If we have a Vigi... you need to hit Foolishness. He is most definitely mafia.
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Wait... there's a godfather? Fuck.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
I rolechecked Zato he is red, if we have a vigi, kill him.
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Never mind my post about hitting Foolishness.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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Let me say the number of reasons why I'm not mafia:
1. I've been working with Sugiura all game.
2. I was the first to point at Satou
3. I've been trying to get the town to act, when we need to make decisions fast.
Foolishness convinced me to vote for lynching infun, and he RCed detective and got a townie killed.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 12:32 Ace wrote:
and look at the shit you did now
I realize what I've done. I'm sorry for not listening to you. I didn't know if you were mafia or not. At the time, it seemed better to get a group decision from those I know. I did highly consider what you said, unlike everyone else in my group though. I still don't know who the GF is. It could be you, or someone in my group.
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Day 5 GG
The town drew its final breath with the death of Foolishness, who was thrown off the 6th floor of a building. His body was found the next day with some slits on both sides of his mouth...
Mafia wins!
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mafia win. Ace is red. not GF, plain red.
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Godfather: Pyrr
Mafia: Ace
Mafia: SatouxKisei
DT: Qatol
Medic: Infundibulum
Townie: Everyone else
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in before infundibulum should have claimed
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O.o why'd you RC detective Foolishness?
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oooo there was no vigi! Sweet!
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Foolishness was convincing me all game long about how Pyrr was innocent... sigh. GG :p
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On August 20 2009 12:41 Zato-1 wrote:
O.o why'd you RC detective Foolishness?
We were rooting out Pyrr.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Haha that was really fun. I do advocate doing this again. gg
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On August 20 2009 12:39 Qatol wrote:
mafia win. Ace is red. not GF, plain red.
o hai!
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Everyone has posted in main thread.
Everyone has voted
dead = italic
1. Foolishness
2. Zato-1
3. Vivi57
4. SatouxKisei
5. Ace
6. Jimtudor
7. iNfuNdiBuLuM -Medic
8. Qatol -Detective
9. Chezinu
10. Pyrrhuloxia
11. SugiuraMidori
Suspicions:
Ace, Zato-1
That's what I knew when I died.. oh well for it though.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 12:42 Zato-1 wrote:
Foolishness was convincing me all game long about how Pyrr was innocent... sigh. GG :p
He got rolechecked and came out green.
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On August 20 2009 12:42 Zato-1 wrote:
Foolishness was convincing me all game long about how Pyrr was innocent... sigh. GG :p
I checked pyrr night 2 and got back green. I couldn't worry about him after that, though he didn't get any info.
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damnit, I was right abotu pyrr too.
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yknow mafia probably would have picked Ace as GF if he wasn't afk
also i was right about pyrr! ha!
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I'm surprised no one else cast suspicion on Ace.
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GG, thanks incognito.
I want to state that I made a big mistake by not realizing there were 11 people playing...wrote names on piece of paper 3 min before..and then there was a moment of time where i had to afk and couldn't realize my mistake and defend myself properly because there was a disconnection there...
Heh, Ace owned stuff again...shoot, I couldn't have guessed until the end.
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Well gg everyone. I still don't understand what happened there at the end or what this plan to root me out was... Anyway it's almost 9pm and I've yet to eat a meal today so I better do that!
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Thanks ver and incog for the game this was a lot of fun and went very smoothly.
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oh and yea guys I really was afk
When I came back and saw that Sato died I was like o wtf QQ
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United States2186 Posts
Actions:
Town Lynches Jimtudor (green)
Night One:
Qatol RC's Midori (Green)
Mafia hits Qatol
Infundibulum Prots Qatol
Town Lynches SatouxKisei (red)
Night Two:
Qatol RC's Pyrr (GF comes up as Green)
Mafia hits Chezinu
Infundibulum Prots Zato-1
Town Lynches Infundibulum (Green)
Night 3:
Qatol RC's Foolishness (Green)
Mafia hits Midori
Town Lynches Vivi (Green)
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On August 20 2009 12:45 Jimtudor wrote:
GG, thanks incognito.
I want to state that I made a big mistake by not realizing there were 11 people playing...wrote names on piece of paper 3 min before..and then there was a moment of time where i had to afk and couldn't realize my mistake and defend myself properly because there was a disconnection there...
Heh, Ace owned stuff again...shoot, I couldn't have guessed until the end.
Ya sorry we had two last minute players at the end. Should have announced that earlier i guess.
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yeah, massive thanks to ver and incog, this was a great game
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So, through all the chaos...would people do this again?
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 12:48 Incognito wrote:
So, through all the chaos...would people do this again?
I sure would, I thought this was incredibly fun. Nice break from the long games.
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I think I prefer a longer game. Was pretty hard for town to discuss stuff properly with so little time :p
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I'd definitely do this again (and be on time next time )
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Yeah, it was fun.....short action packed movie lol. Oh, thanks to Ver too.
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I did learn a lot though! Thanks Ver and Incognito ^^
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On August 20 2009 12:48 Incognito wrote:
So, through all the chaos...would people do this again?
Like I said before I prefer small games. Makes people see how to work around long games and how to read people.
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I was wondering though, would people prefer small 11 player short games like this with 25ish minute day cycles? Or just the regular 48/24 hour cycle with 11 players? Both small games but one with a little more time to breathe.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On August 20 2009 12:55 Incognito wrote:
I was wondering though, would people prefer small 11 player short games like this with 25ish minute day cycles? Or just the regular 48/24 hour cycle with 11 players? Both small games but one with a little more time to breathe.
I would prefer the fast games.
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On August 20 2009 12:55 Incognito wrote:
I was wondering though, would people prefer small 11 player short games like this with 25ish minute day cycles? Or just the regular 48/24 hour cycle with 11 players? Both small games but one with a little more time to breathe.
24/48 hour style games hurts the mafia too much. The town can't have that much time to post and digest. However, days should be a bit longer than they were here. I honestly didn't get to reread posts after day 1 because I didn't have that kind of time.
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United States2186 Posts
Sorry for having to change/extend the lynch times constantly guys. There were some lag problems with TL; in particular Infundi ended up dying at least partially because it took him too long to access TL to defend himself and then roleclaim. And as well we didn't want nights to end with most of the people not having voted (a lot of ppl didn't vote as it was). Maybe this is an adjustment thing?
Everyone seemed happy with this so we can try to make it a regular thing
I'm not sure what an ideal round time is though. As it was I felt like 25 mins was too short, 30 being a solid number yet almost too rushed. At the same time we can't make it too long or the games are too inconvienent. I know Qatol and Pyrr both ran out of time at the end for sleep/eating or something.
The 48/24 hour game days would be possible too, although possibly too much given the lower number of players. Also it would conflict more with larger games (am thinking of setting one of those up soon as well).
Did mafia have enough time to coordinate during the nights? I know things hurt with Ace being out of the picture for awhile but 5-10 min nights must have been very little.
As a test run this went remarkably well. I was pleased with several people's performances overall. Let's improve on it and make the next one better!
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We coordinated decently once I got back, but I only got to talk to Pyrr (Sato had just gotten lynched). No idea where Sato went.
20-25 minute days seemed fine with me.
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On August 20 2009 13:08 Ace wrote:
We coordinated decently once I got back, but I only got to talk to Pyrr (Sato had just gotten lynched). No idea where Sato went.
20-25 minute days seemed fine with me.
Only cuz you weren't the one trying to find scum? xD
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pretty much ^_^
This game I was more trying to make sure people were skeptical of each other and avoid being baited. As long as people kept dying at night I kinda didn't care what role they had unless it was a Vet In the convos with Pyrr it wasn't until the last night that I can say Roles became more important than the person, and even then it was slight.
ETA: Also Pyrr managed to avoid getting bandwagoned to doom. I kept having to include him in that "group" but thankfully no one got a solid charge on him lol.
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I think overall this was a successful game. However, if we were to do more in the future, I think the most important thing we have to fix is timing. As you probably know timing was probably the hardest part to do for this game, whether it was day/night cycles or just finding enough people to play. The player list was changing constantly up until the last minute with people having events pop up at the last minute and whatnot. So if people would be interested in doing this sort of thing in the future, I propose this idea.
First we would have a set day/time that would be good for most people. Then, we would have a pool of mods who could mod the game. By having a pool of mods rather than one mod, we could still keep the game running if one of the mods had something come up unexpectedly. We could advertise the game/time so that more players would be aware of the game, then have signups start the same day that the game starts. That way we wouldn't have to deal with people's shifting schedules and people dropping out last minute. This way even if people have events come up, we can keep the game running although with a constantly changing player list. Basically, instead of building the game around a set of players, we build the game around a set time and have a pool of players so that we can be flexible with which players actually play the game. Thoughts?
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hey, just got back from being afk. I was hoping mafia would kill me which they did - I had to go somewhere. I thought I would sacrifice myself to save the blues. I was surprised that there was only two blues. I thought there would be more blues. Well, this game ends my winning streak. For now on, I'll will kill Ace in all mafia games since he betrayed me.
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On August 20 2009 13:12 Ace wrote:
ETA: Also Pyrr managed to avoid getting bandwagoned to doom. I kept having to include him in that "group" but thankfully no one got a solid charge on him lol.
Ya I kept mentioning you in passing, too, but you were slippery like a fish as well!
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On August 20 2009 15:11 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 13:12 Ace wrote:
ETA: Also Pyrr managed to avoid getting bandwagoned to doom. I kept having to include him in that "group" but thankfully no one got a solid charge on him lol. Ya I kept mentioning you in passing, too, but you were slippery like a fish as well!
Nah, Town just played badly. Since you'd come up green in a RC, all the Town was working on the assumption that you were one of the few confirmed Town members, and I got PMs from 3 separate sources that seemed (and were) legit, telling me to lay off Pyrr. I should've asked why and remembered about the GF possibility, but with 15 min days I couldn't think beyond the immediate :p
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I would like to not die before the game starts and actually play. Please do another one soon
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
join mini mafia long edition gogo
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On August 20 2009 12:48 Incognito wrote:
So, through all the chaos...would people do this again?
If it wasn't at 4am to 6am. Seems like it's an american-only Mafia.
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would people do this again? I would do it a first time if i knew i had access to the internets the day of.
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Wow can't believe mafia won this, seemed overwhelmingly town favored
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On August 22 2009 13:40 ydg wrote:
Wow can't believe mafia won this, seemed overwhelmingly town favored
Ya, but the game wasn't nearly as imba as I am.
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United States2186 Posts
The game was definitely not town favored.
Balance was pretty solid overall I felt.
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Was there a known number of each role?
Basically, day 1 there's 8 town and 3 mafia town has 2 mislynches before it's even game point (at 4town:3mafia).
Assuming 1 of each:
Day 1 medic claims (since he can protect himself) and has everyone pm roles to him, and then if there are any counterclaims in the roles then he can assign the roles to figure out which one is mafia, such as have cop claims investigate one another or vigi claims hit one another.
If all mafia claim town, then day 1 is a random lynch of a townie, and with 4 power roles, that leaves 4 townies and 3 mafia. Medic has vig hit a random towny and has detective investigate another one hoping for a guilty. At worst, town mislynches a green and vigi hits a green and mafia hits a power role, but that leaves 5:3 with 2 town and 3 mafia left, and with those odds, including a veteran, town should be able to win still.
If there's a counter claim to medic, then lynch one, and then have vigi hit the other one and then vigi claim, etc, mafia would lose numbers quickly by ccing roles.
As you can see, with two mislynches and 3 mafia, town should pretty much win, unless the number of each role is not known, in which case I'd have to think a little more lol.
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If the Medic was to roleclaim the town would lose. He can prot himself all he wants, the Mafia now know they can take the chance to hit everyone else. The Medic also has no way of figuring out who is a real DT and who isn't so it would be a pretty useless idea. The only way it would work is if the DT found the Medic first and then the Medic roleclaimed and even then it's risky.
Also the number of roles and setup was unknown. No one knew that it was only GF/Medic/DT which also made the game more fun.
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Well if it was said that there was 1 det, 1 vig, 1 vet, 1 medic, then yeah I think it would work well. Even if there are two detective claims, assuming that the town isn't trolling and claiming roles that they aren't and that all counterclaims are mafia, then the mafia is sacrificing one of its 3 people to kill one detective, which isn't all that helpful in a game where the town has 2 mislynches.
Well whatever, I look forward to see how the next game will run, the unknown number of roles really balances things out.
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in a game with 11 people it hurts to lose your only detective early
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Haha I guess. Btw you should play on epicmafia.com
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Here's the problem with the "medic claims" plan - the mod can discretionarily leave out any of those roles. So mafia can make a gambit and say "I'm the DT." and the medic only gets one DT claim. You bus one mafioso, since KP doesn't change. Medic announces "ydg is mafia" and then people lynch him and he is, DT is trusted. NK a townie. Town is down to 9, takes 5 to lynch. The fake-DT offers up an innocent. Town lynches someone else as long as the fake-DT's partner lays low. They nightkill the innocent. Down to 7, takes 4 to lynch. Another innocent is offered up. Another non-investigated player is lynched. Said innocent is NKed. Down to 5, takes 3 to lynch. Lylo for town. fake-DT offers an innocent, lynch the other, and GG. They NK the other non-medic and 2 mafiosos vote to lynch the medic next day. One mafioso is sacced to gain the trust of the town and then it's field day.
EDIT: That's just one scenario that could play out. You could have a medic only game in this format theoretically. The semi-openness is what makes it balanced. It's very hard for a semi-open format to be broken by a massclaim because you can have as many or as little of each role.
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Well Mafia standard is to always have 1 DT/1 Medic no matter what otherwise it's GGrapemode.
@ydg: Does epicmafia do 1 week long days? If so I probably wont touch it
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epicmafia is like irc-based mafia but in a browser and it's automated so it's much much quicker lol
@vx70GTOJudgexv, yeah that's why i said if the number of roles was known it would be totally imba. technically anyone can claim, i dunno why i said medic, but the vet claiming also works.
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The game is fun when everyone starts claiming in a small game if done at the right time. I've seen some insane Mafia fake claims with all kinds of made up proof that just catches everyone off guard.
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On August 24 2009 15:38 Ace wrote:
Well Mafia standard is to always have 1 DT/1 Medic no matter what otherwise it's GGrapemode
Uh... no not really. MS uses a setup in their newbie games that can have 7 townies & 2 mafia. If you play smart, you can actually still win it - it's not impossible.
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If they are doing it for their newbie games it's probably just because people need to learn. When I say standard I'm assuming it's non-newbs in which you always have a DT and a Medic or else the town will be wtf owned.
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