[GG] Red Army Mafia - Page 2

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 30 2009 23:58 GMT

#431

So, who are we planning on lynching at this moment? I didn't get if Ace was serious about Vivi57 or not. Who might other possible lynches be? Also, what shall the town's attitude be towards inactivity? Will the inactives be lynched, or is the town planning on rather concentrating on clue analysis and behavioral analysis to catch the Ukrainians? I'm guessing that we'll be wandering around pretty aimlessly until the next morning... not much to work with until then.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 31 2009 02:26 GMT

#462

To Finland... Assassins with Ice Picks? Caller, it's like 25-30 degrees during the daytime in Finland. Come on, those polar bears on the streets are getting old.

Man, if the same amount of people are going to be inactive every day...

I guess Ace wasn't on here in time to change the lynch? That sucks, although I guess Vivi should have claimed earlier. It's a pretty big blow to, instead of losing just one person, to lose a total of like 8 people out of which only one is an Ukrainian Rebel.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 31 2009 13:17 GMT

#494

On July 31 2009 21:26 Sinensis wrote:

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On July 31 2009 19:09 Siefu wrote:

On July 31 2009 09:13 coltrane wrote:

On July 31 2009 07:14 Shikyo wrote:
I've thought about this a little. Posing as Veteran has the benefit of possible living longer. Also, if a NKVD checks another NKVD, he'd know it was a blue(I mean red) and could start talking to him and form a circle.

Posing as Ukrainians needs to have enough gains to overweight the innate losses. The obvious problem of course is that when a NKVD checks another NKVD, instead of being able to form any kind of a circle, it'll most likely lead to the death of both NKVD's. Although some people say that the risk is too small to consider, I'm... not sure. The chance is still there, and it'd be an extremely heavy blow to the town, and a waste of 2 days of lynches(Potentially like 18 kills max for the Ukrainians).

Now, besides this huge problem, the gains are: If an Ukrainian checks a NKVD posing as an Ukrainian, he contacts him and both get killed after the Ukrainian claims to be NKVD as well. But what if the Ukrainian doesn't contact him in that manner? What if he starts PMing him ordinarily to find out what role he might be? Or analyse posts? And if he's not convinced that he's not rebel, he might just hit someone else and avoid him? Furthermore, trading 1-to-1 townies to Ukrainians isn't a good idea. Ukrainians most likely have a huge KP in this game. Trading 1-1 is most likely not going to be enough unless they kill enough of their own.

But then again the Ukrainians couldn't properly form circles..... Sigh, which of these is better depends on who the Ukrainians are and their playing style and personality, pretty much. I don't think I can pick the plan that is better at this moment.

Dont any one get it? We cant form any ring or whatever in any case.

If a NKVD gets dt by anyone is MUCH MORE PROBABLE that he was DTed from an ukranian. Then NKVD posing as any they want cant trust any who pmed them about their cover. THats why we dont gain any posibility for NKVD to make a ring if they look like vets or any blue role. The advantage you describe is not such.

Then, if the NKVD possing as Ukranian is not contacted, then he will live more and get all of his DTs into a good use.

So the only advantege of get them as vets (to be able to form rings) isnt real. I say it again. They MUST go as ukranians. If you are a NKVD and dont believe me, then go as vet, is better than other things... but you are wasting a nice oportunity (and fun like shit).

And, about the maths, i made an automaton program, is not based upon random things, is based in individual decisions of each virtual player. But, that i made it just for myself. Dont despite good math analisys, like in poker it could give us an edge.

I would lynch ace cuz he is dividing the town... but i am voting for L, and really dont give a shit about first lynch.-

Are you admitting you're a dirty rebel or was that just a slip? lol

This is a good observation.

When I was reading this it looked like the "we" meant the town, since town can't form circles because when a DT claims to any townie that he's a DT, it could have just been a rebel and hence town can't form circles since those DTs can't be trusted. So I think it wasn't a slip-up, you just read it wrong.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 31 2009 20:38 GMT

#519

Wild guess: Everyone

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 31 2009 20:51 GMT

#523

"yo mannn I just used my role check today to check you, and you came back as a Ukrainian too, I was trying to figure out how Caller wrote clues and I guess I got it (or got lucky rofl) just PM me back so we can get this Ukrainian death machine rolling, the sooner we organized the better. If you don't want to PM me back yet, I suggest using your power and checking me too."

Yeah... if everyone got it what's the point?

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 03 2009 02:04 GMT

#817

Hmmm... Looking forward to seeing what Ver's power play might be.

It seems like every correct lynch we make, we lose about 5 townies. If the inactivity doesn't go down, we'll lose the game right away without the Ukrainians having to rely on their hits at all. It.... sucks quite a bit. Especially since tonight we're likely lose even more townies. More townies really can't die to modkills, otherwise we really are screwed.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 04 2009 11:20 GMT

#966

Haha, these last few pages have been so funny ^_^ Motbob roleclaiming to RoL oh my god =D Zato-1 hid his mafianess pretty well. Or ukrainian..ity? Whatever.

Anyway, Ver, I replied to your PM and you most likely already deducted my role from it, but I guess I'll still claim here that I'm a Conscript. At first I wasn't so sure what to think but after tonight it seems quite obvious you're on the town's side.

I don't get some things still. Elemenope, for example. Suggesting that everyone is scum? Could be a mafia ploy to cause confusion, or it could be a method to make people ignore you. But it could also just be for the sake of bragging that you were right in the case you were a townie.

I noticed that Falcynn, after being quite active in the beginning, even with that detailed information collection thread of his, has been quite inactive for a while now. Or maybe I just have missed his posts, but it's interesting.

I believe that most of the medics should protect Ver now, but I'm not sure if they all should, since then the rebels could just go around lynching everyone else and still manage to mow us down with their gigantic kill power.

Anyway, I guess we've all pretty much decided that we will lynch Kuja today? How high is RoL in the lynch list?

Oh, and before I forget: Everyone, role claim to Ver.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 06 2009 15:52 GMT

#1076

Seems like I'm getting vigi'd tonight? I guess I'll take this time to say that I don't like this format at all. Even with like 10 modkills, it still feels unbelievably imbalanced, even impossible for rebels.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 06 2009 16:24 GMT

#1079

How?

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 06 2009 16:43 GMT

#1081

why can't every townie say that it did match?

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 06 2009 17:07 GMT

#1084

On August 07 2009 01:59 chaoser wrote:

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he means, one mafia comes out by saying he's mafia, tell everyone to send the message they got from caller saying they are mafia. only people who send in a message that has the exact same wording would be mafia

Why can't a townie do that? Come out saying he's a mafia.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 06 2009 17:10 GMT

#1087

Yay I was right ^_^

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 06 2009 17:14 GMT

#1088

Oh yeah and the mafia is supposedly really powerful, but they need to balance RCs and kills, so if they do rc-kill-rc-kill and so on, they will essentially have the same KP as a normal mafia. They just won't be able to organize their hits, which is a huge blow. As you saw in day 2, with like 8 KP or something the mafia managed to kill 3 people. 2 days, 3 people total.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 06 2009 17:28 GMT

#1091

On August 07 2009 02:21 Elemenope wrote:
As for as townie coming out as mafia:

what would give any reason for this?

Everybody else's role has been always the same as posted in the first page as pretty much as far back as I can remember.

Yet suddenly, scum PMs are different. Even if a person were to claim, Ace lynches him and becomes confirmed.

What would give any reason? Well, a townie says hes mafia and tells to PM him the exact PM. 9 people post the same PM. This person gives out the names in the thread. This person gets killed, comes out as green. The mafia die.