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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 08 2009 18:22 GMT
#561
So, Mr. Julia could be the Hulk, but then who does the Hulk link to? Only person I could think of is BWDero, because of his comic book character picture, however, that's a very weak connection, at best.
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ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 08 2009 18:27 GMT
#562
Chezinu?
"Chezinu has a cursed green skin that the old god of the mafia world has given him." I know he's talking about being a townie in mafia but he says "green skin."

I'll keep looking
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 08 2009 18:30 GMT
#563
On July 09 2009 03:27 ydg wrote:
Chezinu?
"Chezinu has a cursed green skin that the old god of the mafia world has given him." I know he's talking about being a townie in mafia but he says "green skin."

I'll keep looking

i like this
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ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 08 2009 18:32 GMT
#564
Voting inconsistency though, voted for Truthbringer (4th to vote for him) when I had more votes on me.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 08 2009 18:56 GMT
#565
Mr. Julia, the mystery unraveled. It took looking seriously through profiles, and I found the bastard.

First off Mr. Julia is none other than Pyrrhuloxia.

Lets quote the characteristics of him and you will see.

On July 06 2009 03:42 Plexa wrote:
[image loading]


There was one matter left to attend to – the destruction of the secret Liquiville Cheese recipe. The task was left to Mr Julia, a newcomer to the Mafia but nonetheless determined to carry out his orders. Mr Julia had a nack for working out combinations and he had cracked the safe within seconds. He wasted no time in burning the recipe with his lighter. “What are you doing!!” cried fishball, startling Mr Julia and causing him to accidentally burn himself on the recipe. fishball watched in horror and amazement as Mr Julia’s burn wound began to change colour and pulsate. “Look what you’ve done!” exclaimed Mr Julia who came lunging at fishball. fishball fended Mr Julia’s first few blows off, but each blow became more erratic and powerful. It wasn’t long until Mr Julia landed a punch square on fishball’s jaw, knocking him to the ground. Mr Julia pounced on fishball and eventually turned fishball into a bloody pulp. Even though fishball was dead, Mr Julia could not stop and eventually, after his body began to pulsate, he passed out.

Four Mafia had entered, but only three had returned to the exit. All three of them instantly knew what had happened to Mr Julia and rushed over to the safe room to bring him back home. vivi57 was the last security guard on duty and was know well aware that the place had been hit by the Mafia. He was hiding around a corner, near the safe room, hoping the Mafia would leave him be. However, the instant the 3 Mafia passed the corner he was struck down by a large faintly warm object. He fell to the ground dazed and confused, but could make out 3 fuzzy shapes leaving with some kind of psychedelic object draped over one of their backs. The three Mafia noted that he was still alive and opened fire on vivi57 – the sheer intensity of the bullets severed vivi57’s body in two.



Now, if you look at the entire passage for Mr.Julia
It starts with him opening a safe,
Him changing colour after burning himself
Attacking fishball by jumping on him and beating him up
Passing out
Being held over his compatriots back and being psychedelic

Now lets look at Pyrr’s profile.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Pyrrhuloxia found here

one link in his profile is http://hegesonic.blogspot.com/
from this blog you get this link embedded near the top of the first post


Watch this video, IT is super important.

It opens with the man in a beige shirt, black pants and red hair taking an elevator down to a locked door, which requires him entering a passcode to get in. He goes in, starts an experiment during a lightning storm with ends up blasting his lab, and himself into a new world where he swims to safety.
HE is now wearing a black shirt and beige pants! A change in colour. And in the midst of the destruction of his lab, a red fireball followed by lightning seem to slam into his lab. Fire changing his colour
He is captured and with the help of another prisoner escapes and gets a gun.

This gun gets stronger the more you charge it (it also pulses a bit)
Near the end he is saved by the prisoner who saves him who fights with another guard by jumping on him and beating him in the face. And in the end the main guy drags himself to a leaver and pulls it which turns his enemy into chunky bits (bloody pulp), and passes out.

His fellow prisoner then puts him over his back, and hops onto a beasts back and flies away.

As for being psychedelic this link is in pyrrs profile http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zxf_to-here-knows-when

Which is insanely trippy. This second link fits very well as plexa chose to separate the two areas with clues to mr Julia, like he was taking a clue from a new place.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5460 Posts
July 08 2009 18:57 GMT
#566
But the key here is the whole "Mr. Julia" thing. I thought about Chezinu as well and though its the best connection we have its a very loose connection. Also, for those people who are wondering, the name "Chezinu" means "Cheesing You". I had to ask him myself when I first got suspicious of him.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 08 2009 18:57 GMT
#567
IE mr. julia is solved.

Finally caught you pyrr.

I will move onto another mafia clue soon, as now there is an idea of how Plexa does clues.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 08 2009 19:04 GMT
#568
Another thing to consider would be the "if mafia ran for Emperor, who would it be?". Four people ran (think JeeJee ran jokingly, but never followed up past his post), MBH, L, BC, and HeavOnEarth.

MBH is a (dead) confirmed townie.
HeavOnEarth pulled out of the race, and supported BC.
BC won and became Emperor.
L lost.

Truthbringer was the first to vote for BC, with no reasoning. He also supported ydg's lynching, not sure off the top of my head if he posted his reasons.

L was the one that did the analysis of TruthBringer, which led to us lynching a mafia.

At the moment, I personally think that if any of the candidates was mafia, BC would be the strongest suspect, which would put is in a tough situation. The only real evidence against him (if you look at it in a negative light - it could also be positive if it works), is killing MBH. If he's mafia, he gets rid of one of the best players for two days, and gets a decent chance to snipe the priest before MBH is resurrected, and thus out of the game for good. However, it shouldn't be seen in an entirely negative light, because if the plan works, MBH can hopefully guide us.

If BC turns red, HeavOnEarth could potentially be mafia. The entirety of his campaign was a bit iffy, such as him bowing out and immediately supporting BC, when he himself stated that it was likely the Godfather was among all the candidates. However, that's not to say he is mafia, and much like BC's case, it's all speculation at this point. He abstained from the lynch vote, which doesn't really help the town, but it doesn't hurt it either.

One thing to consider is that ydg could still be mafia, though I personally think he's innocent. If he eventually does flip mafia, then most of the suspicions on BC would be lifted.

I suppose we can't entirely dismiss L from being mafia at this point, however, I'd say the chance is less than 5% (had to do it). The only way L could be mafia is if it was a mafia ploy to get us trusting him, and then maybe have blues send their roles and all. Which would only really be an option if MBH doesn't get resurrected. People can still choose to form circles, but a mass list of who is who is dangerous, when there is even any doubt of the person's alignment.

Another reason L isn't entirely dismissed is the Gosu message. It's possible the message was coincidental, but I think more likely than not, our enemy is toying with us. Such as saying "we're better than you - we can waste a full night's kills and still win the game". In BC's game, L also managed to get away with a lot as mafia (Ver is godfather). However, I think that putting one of your own up on the chopping block AND playing alphabet soup would be pushing it too far.


I'm not saying that any of the candidates are mafia, however, if any of them are, I'd say L is the safest bet for being a townie.


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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 08 2009 19:13 GMT
#569
sweet, foxglove person. WE believed that this person was araav on the basis of the flowers bloom in adversity (i would disagree based off the swap post as he would never eat cheese he had poisoned).

However, one other person can fit this style.

Ecomania.

He has almost nothing based off his profile other than his name and that hes from germany.

Foxglove plants are found in germany (google and its up). Next look at his name Eco-mania
This shows he is a maniac.

but specifically for the environment, which could lead to him being a terrorist. Dropping the poison into the cheese would be helping the environment in the end as it would remove the people destroying it (a factory would create waste product and the like that damages the surroundings). Planting a bomb is normal for terrorists, and tieing up people as hostages is normal as well. I believe he best fits the job as the seed dropper.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
July 08 2009 19:18 GMT
#570
yea thats why I voted for ecomania. Strong suspicion of him being mafia, especially with him voting/picking up activity after I voted for him.

another thing, when I played with L as mafia way back in like mafia II or whatever(blindalbino) he was one of the most interesting/smart players ive played with so I wouldnt put it by him to be a mafia gaining trust. keep your eyes out
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 08 2009 19:19 GMT
#571
bc, why do you think truth bringer zombie voted for you? why are you ignoring this?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 08 2009 19:22 GMT
#572
On July 09 2009 04:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
sweet, foxglove person. WE believed that this person was araav on the basis of the flowers bloom in adversity (i would disagree based off the swap post as he would never eat cheese he had poisoned).
Did you miss the [No clue area]?
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 08 2009 19:22 GMT
#573
Seeing that sun made me think of a new day
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 08 2009 19:22 GMT
#574
On July 09 2009 04:19 HeavOnEarth wrote:
bc, why do you think truth bringer zombie voted for you? why are you ignoring this?


My guess is mafia are voting in such a way to get me lynched. blind vote with me, and more flip red the higher chance of town lynching me removing the double lynches.

Or he was told too. I am unaware why, but it means I seriously have to step up my game to further prove my innocence. Hense getting back on the clue analyzing over doing behavioural.

I still have suspicions on YDG because of redtooth jumping off him to abstain (makes both of them look red) but after seeing the clue linking to ecomania and pyrr, they are higher on my hit list now.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 08 2009 19:24 GMT
#575
On July 09 2009 04:22 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2009 04:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
sweet, foxglove person. WE believed that this person was araav on the basis of the flowers bloom in adversity (i would disagree based off the swap post as he would never eat cheese he had poisoned).
Did you miss the [No clue area]?


Not saying its a clue, but less likely you would write someones death in a way that if they were red they would kill themself off their own poisoned cheese .

I could be wrong, but I found a better link regardless.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 08 2009 19:24 GMT
#576
On July 09 2009 04:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Seeing that sun made me think of a new day



Same.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 08 2009 19:26 GMT
#577
Sorry, but it should draw your eye to the analysis =)
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5460 Posts
July 08 2009 19:36 GMT
#578
+ Show Spoiler [BC's Post] +
On July 09 2009 03:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mr. Julia, the mystery unraveled. It took looking seriously through profiles, and I found the bastard.

First off Mr. Julia is none other than Pyrrhuloxia.

Lets quote the characteristics of him and you will see.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 03:42 Plexa wrote:
[image loading]


There was one matter left to attend to – the destruction of the secret Liquiville Cheese recipe. The task was left to Mr Julia, a newcomer to the Mafia but nonetheless determined to carry out his orders. Mr Julia had a nack for working out combinations and he had cracked the safe within seconds. He wasted no time in burning the recipe with his lighter. “What are you doing!!” cried fishball, startling Mr Julia and causing him to accidentally burn himself on the recipe. fishball watched in horror and amazement as Mr Julia’s burn wound began to change colour and pulsate. “Look what you’ve done!” exclaimed Mr Julia who came lunging at fishball. fishball fended Mr Julia’s first few blows off, but each blow became more erratic and powerful. It wasn’t long until Mr Julia landed a punch square on fishball’s jaw, knocking him to the ground. Mr Julia pounced on fishball and eventually turned fishball into a bloody pulp. Even though fishball was dead, Mr Julia could not stop and eventually, after his body began to pulsate, he passed out.

Four Mafia had entered, but only three had returned to the exit. All three of them instantly knew what had happened to Mr Julia and rushed over to the safe room to bring him back home. vivi57 was the last security guard on duty and was know well aware that the place had been hit by the Mafia. He was hiding around a corner, near the safe room, hoping the Mafia would leave him be. However, the instant the 3 Mafia passed the corner he was struck down by a large faintly warm object. He fell to the ground dazed and confused, but could make out 3 fuzzy shapes leaving with some kind of psychedelic object draped over one of their backs. The three Mafia noted that he was still alive and opened fire on vivi57 – the sheer intensity of the bullets severed vivi57’s body in two.



Now, if you look at the entire passage for Mr.Julia
It starts with him opening a safe,
Him changing colour after burning himself
Attacking fishball by jumping on him and beating him up
Passing out
Being held over his compatriots back and being psychedelic

Now lets look at Pyrr’s profile.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Pyrrhuloxia found here

one link in his profile is http://hegesonic.blogspot.com/
from this blog you get this link embedded near the top of the first post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgkf6wooDmw

Watch this video, IT is super important.

It opens with the man in a beige shirt, black pants and red hair taking an elevator down to a locked door, which requires him entering a passcode to get in. He goes in, starts an experiment during a lightning storm with ends up blasting his lab, and himself into a new world where he swims to safety.
HE is now wearing a black shirt and beige pants! A change in colour. And in the midst of the destruction of his lab, a red fireball followed by lightning seem to slam into his lab. Fire changing his colour
He is captured and with the help of another prisoner escapes and gets a gun.

This gun gets stronger the more you charge it (it also pulses a bit)
Near the end he is saved by the prisoner who saves him who fights with another guard by jumping on him and beating him in the face. And in the end the main guy drags himself to a leaver and pulls it which turns his enemy into chunky bits (bloody pulp), and passes out.

His fellow prisoner then puts him over his back, and hops onto a beasts back and flies away.

As for being psychedelic this link is in pyrrs profile http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zxf_to-here-knows-when

Which is insanely trippy. This second link fits very well as plexa chose to separate the two areas with clues to mr Julia, like he was taking a clue from a new place.
that's a lot of stuff on pyrr. however, just to play devil's advocate why do you think this mafia member was specifically named "Mr. Julia" instead of just another character. Also, after watching the whole 20 minute video, i did not see one instance of the pulsating of skin. when people got shot they usually insta-fried. another thing to note is that the three other mafia "instantly knew" why Mr. Julia was missing. that's not something mentioned in the video. athough the whole "bring him back home" thing could be stretched to fit the storyline.

one thing to note about mr. julia is how he speaks. From the games I've played mafia are rarely quoted with real speech and "Look what you've done!" will likely play a key factor in us identifying either the mafia's behavior or the real "Mr. Julia's" personality.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-08 19:43:40
July 08 2009 19:40 GMT
#579
On July 09 2009 04:36 redtooth wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [BC's Post] +
On July 09 2009 03:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mr. Julia, the mystery unraveled. It took looking seriously through profiles, and I found the bastard.

First off Mr. Julia is none other than Pyrrhuloxia.

Lets quote the characteristics of him and you will see.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 03:42 Plexa wrote:
[image loading]


There was one matter left to attend to – the destruction of the secret Liquiville Cheese recipe. The task was left to Mr Julia, a newcomer to the Mafia but nonetheless determined to carry out his orders. Mr Julia had a nack for working out combinations and he had cracked the safe within seconds. He wasted no time in burning the recipe with his lighter. “What are you doing!!” cried fishball, startling Mr Julia and causing him to accidentally burn himself on the recipe. fishball watched in horror and amazement as Mr Julia’s burn wound began to change colour and pulsate. “Look what you’ve done!” exclaimed Mr Julia who came lunging at fishball. fishball fended Mr Julia’s first few blows off, but each blow became more erratic and powerful. It wasn’t long until Mr Julia landed a punch square on fishball’s jaw, knocking him to the ground. Mr Julia pounced on fishball and eventually turned fishball into a bloody pulp. Even though fishball was dead, Mr Julia could not stop and eventually, after his body began to pulsate, he passed out.

Four Mafia had entered, but only three had returned to the exit. All three of them instantly knew what had happened to Mr Julia and rushed over to the safe room to bring him back home. vivi57 was the last security guard on duty and was know well aware that the place had been hit by the Mafia. He was hiding around a corner, near the safe room, hoping the Mafia would leave him be. However, the instant the 3 Mafia passed the corner he was struck down by a large faintly warm object. He fell to the ground dazed and confused, but could make out 3 fuzzy shapes leaving with some kind of psychedelic object draped over one of their backs. The three Mafia noted that he was still alive and opened fire on vivi57 – the sheer intensity of the bullets severed vivi57’s body in two.



Now, if you look at the entire passage for Mr.Julia
It starts with him opening a safe,
Him changing colour after burning himself
Attacking fishball by jumping on him and beating him up
Passing out
Being held over his compatriots back and being psychedelic

Now lets look at Pyrr’s profile.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Pyrrhuloxia found here

one link in his profile is http://hegesonic.blogspot.com/
from this blog you get this link embedded near the top of the first post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgkf6wooDmw

Watch this video, IT is super important.

It opens with the man in a beige shirt, black pants and red hair taking an elevator down to a locked door, which requires him entering a passcode to get in. He goes in, starts an experiment during a lightning storm with ends up blasting his lab, and himself into a new world where he swims to safety.
HE is now wearing a black shirt and beige pants! A change in colour. And in the midst of the destruction of his lab, a red fireball followed by lightning seem to slam into his lab. Fire changing his colour
He is captured and with the help of another prisoner escapes and gets a gun.

This gun gets stronger the more you charge it (it also pulses a bit)
Near the end he is saved by the prisoner who saves him who fights with another guard by jumping on him and beating him in the face. And in the end the main guy drags himself to a leaver and pulls it which turns his enemy into chunky bits (bloody pulp), and passes out.

His fellow prisoner then puts him over his back, and hops onto a beasts back and flies away.

As for being psychedelic this link is in pyrrs profile http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zxf_to-here-knows-when

Which is insanely trippy. This second link fits very well as plexa chose to separate the two areas with clues to mr Julia, like he was taking a clue from a new place.
that's a lot of stuff on pyrr. however, just to play devil's advocate why do you think this mafia member was specifically named "Mr. Julia" instead of just another character. Also, after watching the whole 20 minute video, i did not see one instance of the pulsating of skin. when people got shot they usually insta-fried. another thing to note is that the three other mafia "instantly knew" why Mr. Julia was missing. that's not something mentioned in the video. athough the whole "bring him back home" thing could be stretched to fit the storyline.

one thing to note about mr. julia is how he speaks. From the games I've played mafia are rarely quoted with real speech and "Look what you've done!" will likely play a key factor in us identifying either the mafia's behavior or the real "Mr. Julia's" personality.


Except fishball is the one who spoke, not mr Julia. As for pulsing as i said, As his gun charges for stronger attacks, the gun pulses and grows in power.

Edit:

As for knowing instantly why he was missing. His fellow prisoner in the video looked behind him and saw a blown apart hole in the ground and knew instantly that he had fallen down it (hense missing) also at the end of the vid after the fight, the same fellow prisoner knew to go up the warp area to find him passed out.. It all fits, and with this much on him, it seems unlikely plexa would link all these clues in the same order as a video progression randomly.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 08 2009 19:53 GMT
#580
Also, for a weak clue, I STRESS WEAK

for the tall lanky person, I would say it falcynn.

If you google the mission codename applesauce, you will be linked to the aquabats.

The lead singer of it is a man (who appears tall and lanky) and is also known as the bat commander.

if he was a bat, the roar could have been his sonar, and would explain why he knew elemenope jumped from the window.

This is weak, but would also explain how plexa was found day 1, if he was in the shadows, and then buried himself deeper into hiding, the bat could pick that up and kill him.
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