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BloodyC0bbler
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THIS game has not changed enough from signup thread to this thread to warrant you not having a pre game platform for running almost as soon as joined the game. So no, you should have had a early game platform. As for copied no, but you should provide something different or new, other then "RELY ON VOTECHECKS" Seriously man, come up with some new campaign other than saying your the safe choice | ||
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On July 04 2009 16:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: huh well this is kind of lame. I just read everything and there isn't much to comment on. The only semi decent clue link was pyrr like 4 posts up about BC/Chaoser and food/rekrul. But those both suck ass anyway. Heavon dropped out so it looks like our two main candidates are BC and L. But yeah, I am going to wait until I see a voting time frame before casting mine, L's insanity could be hard to read in office and BC's experience could be annoying to determine alignment so by the end of this I might just be coin tossing. I figure this game I might as well practice some clue analysis though so after day two I will probably start posting some stuff that hopefully doesn't suck. bolding the important part. For voters, do you want someone whos experienced and NOT insane, or someone whos unpredictable, and insanely hard to read (also the same guy who protected a confirmed mafia while medic last game). It comes down to that for who you should vote for. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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The dt's if they check one of us, must either take the chance on us, or wait till later. It all determines on how the dts should act. | ||
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On the assumption that both L and I haven't been checked and that neither of us was double checked, I would say check one of the early bandwagoners would be a good bet to check, I would however check one of the people who have voted with no justification if they have not been active in this thread. Edit: heading to work, be back this evening | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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So if i get elected, I will make a list of people, and randomize which of them dies. Also note, MBH is one of the few people whos orientation becomes apparent usually fairly quickly. So he would not be day 1 auto lynch (if hes green or blue town gets fucked hard). So by day 2-3 town would easily have his orientation pegged. | ||
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On July 05 2009 10:56 Chezinu wrote: *scrolls through pages looking for MrBabyHand's posts* (only found 2 the confirmation that he got his role and the one above where he is running for emperor- unless I missed one) How has MBH orientation become apparent? I'm so lost.. read his behaviour in previous games and you will understand how you can identify him | ||
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Ecomania Elemenope Kuja Scamp If elected, i will be random # generating from this list. Ydg as he tends to go inactive for alot of a game in most games (sorry bud but inactives kill the game) Elemenope seems shifty to me based on a question he asked previously in the thread, ecomania, kuja and scamp due to general inactivity | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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If im elected the list provided above, will be a list i will push to have people lynched off of tommorrow (subject to change from clues). Instead for autolynch, it will be done differently. A top player (ie well known vet) will be killed instead. There is a reason for this. If the player is red, we off one of the mafia's top players instantly. IF he is blue/green, the priest will instantly start to resurrect the player. This will give us a confirmed townie, and 2 days later he will respawn. Now, this is a gamble, however, I believe it be worth the risk, as well you all are hesitant to trust either myself or L, this will provide an option for the town to instead trust a mayoral official based on a good lynch or b) a safe person to entrust your role to via their resurrection. I still advocate voting fog first night. | ||
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On July 05 2009 23:47 Bockit wrote: Ok so the priest should be reviving MBH right about now. And imagine how hilarious it would have been if MBH was the priest! I would have shat myself, and then town would really have been boned. Now, here's how I'm seeing things. With fog in we should have knocked off at least 1 KP from mafia tonight. and as we can't check the voting list for today (i could be mistaken but i think plexa said we couldn't), we are going to have to base our lynch tommorrow on clue/behavioural analysis. For primary targets, I would recommend looking at YDG - He sat back doing nothing until I posted I might kill him, then almost instantly there was a post up defending himself. This shows he was actively reading the thread and not participating. If he vanishes again he is almost deff red. Ecomania - inactive but voted very early on for L, seems insanely suspicious. Araav - posted once, inactive since (common mafia trick, be helpful once and vanish). Priest, start reviving MBH if you haven't already | ||
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On July 06 2009 01:07 Elemenope wrote: Ah, apparently this plan happened while I was sleeping -.- I'm on lunch break right now so this post will be short, but although I agree with the general premise of the plan. I don't agree on who was lynched. If we make the standard assumption that mafia is running for office, and we go further with that by saying a GF is running for office since rolechecks can happen now for the mayor candidate: Why not lynch L instead of MBH? Although, in my opinion, MBH would seem like a bigger threat if he were mafia, you said yourself; With this plan, although good in theory, it seems wasted on MBH as all we're getting is extra insurance of MBH's alignment, but now we're risking losing the priest's power completely. We also lose MBH's ideas/analysis of people for the next 2 or 3 days or whatever, and we may lose them completely if the priest is found; and if angels can find the priest, then I'm sure mafia can figure it out, too; but then again, Aren't we kind of doing that now? And if our medics are as incompetent as TL history shows, then the priest might not even have protection at all. Although I realize the quote was trying to advise fog over rain, the thoughts and premise behind it also apply here since we're going to most likely have to use rain because of the suicide bomber. Yeah, mafia might lose a KP because of that, but does it really matter? It gets rid of a major power role of a network of confirmed innocents and the priest basically reduces mafia KP by .33 anyway as long as his ability is used every moment. Now we have to wait til Day 4(?) for us to make use of MBH. I just feel that if we lynched L, we would've gained a lot more information in comparison to MBH who we find out is innocent (which is a plus), but we would've found that out anyway tomorrow or the next day. The entire plan is lost on you then. L is not as useful as MBH, period. If for instance L and MBH are both town, MBH is a better person to lead the town upon revival as he is known to be a solid player, can snipe mafia insanely quickly, etc... L does not share those qualities, he is intelligent, he can plan, but his ability to catch mafia isn't as high. Next, on the offchance that MBH had been red, we stopped the mafia from bluesniping night 1, which is also a huge advantage. Now, you mention how you don't like that we don't benefit from his insight now. BUT he ran for emperor at the ever last second, asking for the role so he had BG protection, now he has a few days of analysis to do without risk of being hit in mid process. IE it works to his advantage as well. All we need to do is keep the priest alive. If he lives the 3 days his power is in use, it gets transferred on to another green user. So no we don't lose the power. | ||
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On July 06 2009 02:13 L wrote: Ignoring the fact that I was far more likely to be the godfather because I ran in the election is somewhat silly, unless you already know who the godfather is. Truth be told, I was going to kill you if I got elected in along the exact same lines of reasoning that lmnop gave. Except the reasoning is faulty. Using an autolynch instantly on your running mate gives you pretty well dick all if they are green. Besides, this plan ensures that when mbh revives, neither you or I lead the town. This plan works for the towns best interest, just requires us not crashing this ship before hes back in the game. | ||
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On July 06 2009 02:18 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: @BC: That is true. It seemed to me there were more abstainers this election than usual. The thing is I thought it was pretty obvious MBH was innocent after his election bid. Literally nobody voted for him. Whenever a mafia candidate runs, they always get votes. Every time. --- The big problem with this is our medics have to now focus on protecting the priest, which leaves other players open to get fucked and die. Actually, they don't HAVE to, but people are posting as if it's the only option. This pretty much forces us into voting Rain for Night 2, because if we vote Fog we run the risk of mafia figuring out who the priest is and bombing him, taking out the medics in the process. So even though Fog is sort like a pseudo-medic, we are forced into voting Rain, which lets the mafia use their kp to its maximum extent. edited some formatting True, but as soon as mbh is up we want to vote rain anyway (gives medics able to stack heal on him if need be to keep him alive, as well as prevent him from being bombed). Yes this is a gamble, but if it works town will be ahead by insane amounts that we are going to look peachy. Also, bomber will most likely be saved to kill mbh as that will be the only way to kill him later on if they get lucky. Priest just has to live through two nights. Which is doable. | ||
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Mr Julia + Show Spoiler + There was one matter left to attend to – the destruction of the secret Liquiville Cheese recipe. The task was left to Mr Julia, a newcomer to the Mafia but nonetheless determined to carry out his orders. Mr Julia had a nack for working out combinations and he had cracked the safe within seconds. He wasted no time in burning the recipe with his lighter. “What are you doing!!” cried fishball, startling Mr Julia and causing him to accidentally burn himself on the recipe. fishball watched in horror and amazement as Mr Julia’s burn wound began to change colour and pulsate. “Look what you’ve done!” exclaimed Mr Julia who came lunging at fishball. fishball fended Mr Julia’s first few blows off, but each blow became more erratic and powerful. It wasn’t long until Mr Julia landed a punch square on fishball’s jaw, knocking him to the ground. Mr Julia pounced on fishball and eventually turned fishball into a bloody pulp. Even though fishball was dead, Mr Julia could not stop and eventually, after his body began to pulsate, he passed out. vx70GTOJudgexv fits this profile the best, on multiple counts. His profile for reference can be found http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=vx70GTOJudgexv Now, the mention of easily breaking into a locked room. He has a loose connection with "entusman and a profile full of stats (numbers)" suggests he is good with numbers, and with entusman you could loosely translate it to "enterman" plus numbers would be easy for him. For a colour changing hand and pulsating, he has multiple names in his profile, with different colours for each his own name listed as blue. This could indicate that he changed to that colour. and lastly for the savage beating. He has the words "GO BERSERKER!!!!" in his profile quote. He attacked fishball in an uncontrollable rage till he was beaten to nothing more than a pulp. Berserkers can rarely control their rage, so this fits him insanely well. "3 fuzzy shapes leaving with some kind of psychedelic object draped over one of their backs" would also indicate judge as well based on the different names in his profile (if he was constantly changing colour he could be percieved that way" All of this could also link to bockit. his profile found http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Bockit His user icon in his profile is trippy, especially if you saw it through a haze. breaking into a locked room would be easy based off his "Oh sorry I forgot you can't read binary." Stress on binary, would would be code, ie hack. This could link to that. His colour changing could mean because he is staff and his name is blue, it changed colour when he was burned, As for the brutal murder, he has various quotes in his profile relating to forms of murder or injury. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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That one line seems to indicate Araav based on his quote "The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all" He sprinked flower seeds into the cheese, ie if a flower could grow on cheese it would be blooming in an environment it shouldnt be able to ie adversity. The strapping a bomb to the victims chest could indicate that he is the suicide bomber. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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This is day 2 clues, unless i hit people on red herrings i can guarentee that I wont get any of them right knowingly. I need at least 3-4 days worth of clues to do it accurately. That being said, the accusations have gotten people posting who were otherwise inactive =) | ||
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Sunny - Do not vote for, no decent targets to let assassins loose on, not worth the effort. Snow - Is the potential of their getting an extra KP warrent us wanting more clues. Fog- if we fail lynch, we have a for sure drop of KP again Rain - medics can double protect, bomber can't use his bomb. I personally believe that snow or fog are our best bets today. Reasoning for this. Rain although useful for its stopping of the bomber, I doubt mafia would be dumb enough to waste some of their KP when we have a plan to give a 100% confirmed role town leadership, bomb would be saved for him. Medics also seem to have a hard time protecting the right people. Now, Fog potentially drops KP again (although if we lynch one mafia i doubt this will be the case), and lastly snow Snow allows us to have lists for dt's to check, and give us extra clues for the following day. I recommend pushing fog for now, unless new information comes forward. | ||
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