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Dawn. The sun's glow spread into the morning fog like red feathers into a grey cardinal's face.
Pyrrhuloxia looked out from his balcony's perch to survey Fluidville, the quiet suburb of the infamously violent Liquidia. As part of the town's triumvirate, with Qatol and LTT, he had kept Fluidville free of mafia influence. Yet, for innocent citizens of this humble borough, this dawn was eerily crepuscular. A new mafia menace rose with the sun to blot it out.
Behind Pyrrhuloxia, a figure crept closer. When Pyrrhuloxia lifted his hands from the railing to stir his decaffeinated coffee with a drumstick, the figure pushed him from behind. Pyrry flew over the sixth floor ledge to his death.
Meanwhile, downstairs, Qatol was using the Triumvirate Building's spacious archery range for target practice. As he looked down to reload, another figure crossed the room from the other side. The mafioso crept behind Qatol and took out his knife. Qatol never shot another arrow.
In the parking lot, LTT, the love child of the late L and Samsung Khan's captain, read an Erlend Loe novel in his Audi sports car. Without warning, his windshield shattered and a wave of glass ripped through LTT's face. Passing out from blood loss, LTT's head slumped, sounding a horn that would not be heard in time.
I bolded some things that stood out in my mind atleast
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On May 18 2009 20:32 softer wrote:
We can't really get strong suspicions off one days clues, and since most of us are new it's hard to get anything from behavior this early as well.
But we have to start somewhere and get some discussion going. The wording "eerily crepuscular" stood out to me. The cat is a crepuscular animal, and Jayme has a picture of a cat thats definitely eerie in his profile.
This might be nothing at all but if you google Jayme the first hit is babynames and his name means someone who supplants which means 1. To usurp the place of, especially through intrigue or underhanded tactics.
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A couple things guys. 1) day one clues are horrible to go on since we really have nothing to go on. we're just grasping at straws. Unless someone got off a balling role check or someone acts extremely suspicious, i don't think we're going to get anywhere with day 1 clue analysis. Also, rarely is there ever multiple clues in a single day that point to one person. so just heads up on that. In regards to killing inactives, inactives help the mafia because then they can hide behind them. I know this because in the other TL mafia games inactivity basically killed the town. Thus, they're just as bad as mafia. I'm not saying just target inactives but if we have to target someone, lets get them. Finally, with the whole what if we hit a blue, most blues aren't inactive because they feel like they have a role, it's usually the townies that are inactive. I just want to say, if you're a townie, don't be inactive! you are so vital to the town!
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Like i said before, the fact that so MANY clues are being pointed at someone seems kinda weird (horn, glass breaking, slump all "point" to iLoveKTF) Perhaps only one of those clues point to him. The hard thing about this game is that most people are new so there's hardly any behavior analysis to go off of =[
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On May 19 2009 00:56 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:It's definitely worth keeping track of all these things even if they seem wild now, it may all come together at one point, and best to be prepared. Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 00:51 teks wrote:On May 19 2009 00:47 chaoser wrote:
Like i said before, the fact that so MANY clues are being pointed at someone seems kinda weird (horn, glass breaking, slump all "point" to iLoveKTF) Perhaps only one of those clues point to him. The hard thing about this game is that most people are new so there's hardly any behavior analysis to go off of =[ Yeah, it's not very likely that they are all valid clues pointing to the same person, it would make things too easy for a day 1 clue imo. But for each possible clue the chance that one of them is real increases, and this is something we should keep in mind when voting, seeing how he IS running for office (although he mentioned that he didn't check his role before nominating himself). This is Mafia. He could be lying. We never know.
what is mafia?
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just to talk about who we might want to lynch, there's two real choices. Either inactives (from the list that zeks made up) or Jayme since there seems to be clues against him (cat picture, name meaning "he who supplants"). In regards to lynching "inactive" blues, we do discuss who we lynch and if it's really a blue, they'd try to defend themselves so that's not REALLY a problem.
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On May 20 2009 06:14 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
Role checks cannot be done night 1, and if Tudor is elected, we can no longer role check him. The same goes for JeeJee. However, if we are able to lynch one of his voters and he flips red, i think lynching him would be a smart move. Again, this can also be applied if JeeJee wins the election.
this is a horrible idea, even if someone flips red it doesn't mean that the one elected is definitely red too.
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just as a note, those medic lists aren't 100% sure to be free of mafia. one of them could be mafia. I would suggest personal judgment and not blindly following those lists.
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30 people
7 mafia
23 town/blue
3 kills a day
1 lynch
23-4*4 days=7 people=mafia win
Assuming standard play with no double lynch and vigi not acting yet and no inactiveness and no medic protect (they either go for random people), if we fuck up horribly, we lose at the earliest day 4.
We need to take down two mafia to drop the KP from 3 KP to 2KP. This means we have to kill 2 by atleast end of day 2 to be considered doing good and atleast 2 by day 3 to be considered doing ok.
2 mafia kills on Day 2
5 mafia
18-3*5 days ->lets us live till day 7 at the earliest
2 mafia kills by Day 3
5 mafia
14-3*3 -> lets us live till day 6 at the earliest
2 mafia kills by Day 4
5 mafia
10-3*2 -> Day 6
2 mafia kills by Day 5
5 mafia
6-3*1 -> Day 6
Basically this game will last to about Day 6 or shorter most likely. Thus I think the double lynch is either used early or not at all.
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oh right lol, my bad. i want day~~~
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Day 2
Jimtudor had no hard feelings about the election. With love for his town in his heart, he prepared to defend the people chosen to lead in this time of crisis. His door bell rang. "Who could it be at this hour?," he thought. A salesman in a flashy tie greeted Jimtudor from his welcome mat and began his pitch. Jimtudor tried to close the door in the man's face, but the man swiftly jammed a metal bar in the doorway and used it to pry the door open, then bash Jimtudor in the head till he died.
Walking through the park in the darkness, Softer began to think he was being stalked, so he hid in the bushes. The figure that had been following him began to search the thicket, and Softer panicked and tried to bolt towards the park's exit. However, before Softer could get away, his stalker whipped him forcefully in the back. Softer flew to the ground, where vicious stomps to the back of the neck took his life.
the bolded stood out to me. In regards to green ties,
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gah, i thought i posted my notepad. in regards to green ties, we should try to google or perhaps image search people's profiles. Also, since one bodyguard died, the other bodyguard should not tell ANYONE.
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well right now koopie isn't who we're worried about, it's jayme, i really wish he'd come on and actually defend/give a statement on all the accusations against him. To not would be bad if he flipped either green or blue cause that just means we hit an inactive and that's another day down the drain. Also, crate, you said you're talking to Koopie a lot but I hope you either have very good reasons to trust her (aside from knowing her outside the game) because no one can be 100% sure anyone else is not mafia at this point.
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On May 21 2009 21:24 EsbenPM wrote:
Oh, and i don't think we decided on a final plan regarding confirming townies, but the best idea from my perspective is having a vigi linked to a kill, so we have a confirmed townie in him to rally arround i guess.
As for calling out hits it could help give an idea of who mafia is targetting, to help the medics for the next night.
there's no way for a vigi to get linked to a kill unless the vigi died. Or if the vigi was called on to kill someone at night and in the day that person got killed by the vigi. The problem with that is that the mafia could kill that person as well. So the only real way is if there is an 100% sure red, the vigi calls him out, asks for medic protection, and then kills the mafia member. but now you have a liability and he basically needs to be protected every night and he doesn't even have a real role anymore. The best people in roles of leadership are either a DT or a vet with a clean hit record (never hit yet).
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the problem with this plan is that zeks could be GF in which case by the time we found out that the information is false, we'd be in a deep hole right now. Remember that even if one mafia dies, the KP still stays the same so it's ok to sacrifice a mafia. That means there's a one day/night period where we're in the dark about EVERYTHING. That's 3 kills, a lynch and a potential GF as a mouthpiece.
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as for the double lynch, we should vote for it. There's nothing wrong with having two lynches because it's more KP on our part. Like i outlined before with the numbers timeline, we have basically till day 6 to win or atleast we need to make it to day 6 pretty ahead to win and that means we should DL as soon as possible.
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no one really besides me has made a case for double lynch. what do you think about it?
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oh, and just to let everyone know, we're still voting in the Day1 Voting tread for day two, they just haven't updated it's title yet
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guys, come on...really? I really have two problems with this town.
1)Elected Officials, DO SOMETHING. YOU ARE PROTECTED UNLESS BODYGUARDS DIE. That means you have way more freedom than anyone else. mafia can't target you so take more risks. really? clue analysis? we need a town web set up asap!
2) DTs, medics, mouths, get in touch with THE ELECTED, i'm not saying role claim, i mean say you're the mouth or that you have info or something. It's better than us sitting around not doing anything!
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Show nested quote +On May 23 2009 14:38 chaoser wrote:
guys, come on...really? I really have two problems with this town.
1)Elected Officials, DO SOMETHING. YOU ARE PROTECTED UNLESS BODYGUARDS DIE. That means you have way more freedom than anyone else. mafia can't target you so take more risks. really? clue analysis? we need a town web set up asap!
2) DTs, medics, mouths, get in touch with THE ELECTED, i'm not saying role claim, i mean say you're the mouth or that you have info or something. It's better than us sitting around not doing anything! Something more than having pointed out about 5 mafia suspects and the reasoning behind everything? What have you done?
I've been active, that's the most I can do. I've offered a timetable on how much time we have, I've helped with clue analysis, I've voted. But I'm not an elected official. As an elected official you're suppose to be the HEAD OF THE TOWN. YOU ARE IN A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP. That means thinking of a game plan, branching out and trying to start up a web. Try to get in touch with a mouth. We either had a vet hit once or a medic protecting someone that first day. Those people, if they have found a mouth, should obviously work with the elected officials. The officials should be actively trying to set up a web. If you had a DT working with you guys this lynch could have been prevented. Seriously, in every other game with elected roles, the elected roles have been the MOST active. You are leaders, it's about time you acted like one.
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I was writing that up before I updated my page and saw everything being said. It's just frustrating coming up empty on two lynches, having no real plan, and having the mafia kill three people (i'mma count the modkill as a mafia kill and so they are on schedule which gives us four/five more days)
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regarding my word choices, i really did mean THEY. I meant the elected. I am not an elected, we are not elected, JeeJee and Shikyo are elected. They are the "they" I talk about. and what random post are yo talking about? the one where I said the elected should do more? I wrote that up last night, and then went to a party before I could post it and when I woke up this morning i posted before i refresh
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sorry, yesterday was my college's graduation so I was busy all day with that and moving out.
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On May 26 2009 07:27 The_Master wrote:
I changed my vote since it seems like chaoser has the best chance of getting more votes than Shikyo and I do not think Shikyo should be voted out yet.
isn't this bandwagoning? Also, in regards to the clues against me, it was the shuffling of PAGES, and cards are NOT pages. Paper yes, pages no. Also, the link between rekrul-->lurker-->STAB IN THE BACK is a very very weak clue. Stronger clues are the ones with sound in which case both clazziquai and BWdero (with his superhero who uses sound to fight) are MUCH stronger candidates. I think I've contributed a fair amount of help this whole game and a lynch for me would be another lynch wasted. I'm not even sure Rayne is such a good candidate for lynch just because the stretch from Rayne to bloodrayne is farfetched too. This whole game our clue analysis has been shit so I really have no faith in any of that. That's my two cents, will write more to respond to any questions regarding my innocence.
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Also, in regards to Shikyo, really? you guys want to kill the mayor when clearly NO REAL BLUES have died? I HIGHLY doubt, a mafia as mayor would not have DESTROYED this town by now. All the clues to him are weak and every single "behavioral analysis" of him has been weak so far. At most he hasn't stepped up like the mayors of the past (Ace, ect.) but that doesn't mean he's mafia.
Strong candidates for lynch:
BWDero
clazziquai
both for reasons I mentioned in my above post and also because for clazziquai, he's been posting at other parts of TL and he's been in other mafia games before. For him to be this quiet is strange.
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god, i always post too late x_x
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To JeeJee:
Firstly, you're going to feel shitty as fuck when Shikyo gets lynched and he's green cause congrats, you just killed your own green mayor! His behavior is nothing like a mafia member and with no clues pointing at him at all you're going to lynch him just cause he's doing a SHITTY job? If a mafia was in office so many blues would be dead it's not even funny. To do a shitty job and to actively hunt for blue is not the same. Rethink your plan.
Secondly, Go after people who claimed a role that is overclaimed. Don't do this bullshit with lynching your own mayor.
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I voted for Rayne simply because a lot of people high up seemed to be voting for him which included crate, JeeJee, teks, and Judge. Also there were clues against him and he never spoke up about why he was a bad choice. Aside from that, there's no other real reason. This game has been really shitty. The dts are either not hitting the clues or the rolechecks have been bad. But i believe we can really pull it off. Let's get those two.
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i was gone for a day and i come back to this. x_x. can someone please explain how shikyo is a confirmed mafia aside from that flimsy clue check? where in his profile does the embarrassment match up to? we shouldn't lynch him, he's the only thing between us and losing. think about it, if shikyo is mafia there's no reason for prry to continue to game. the mafia will have more voting power and will win. the game doesn't continue to end, the game ends when mafia have more voting power. JeeJee, how can we be sure you're not mafia seeing as how you're so intent on killing the only hope we have of winning with shikyo's triple vote. fail.
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my plan to stand up for shikyo totally worked lol. Totally thought the Mew clue was straight for me and yet no one lynched me for it cause I did something everyone thought a mafia would never do. The way I went about it though was that a mayor under attack by the town when he is a townie and then supported by mafia (me, midori, etc.) would be way more useful than a dead one. gg though town.
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