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On May 24 2009 15:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Deep underneath Fluidville, So no fek was searching the depths of the town's sewer system for traces of mafia activity. Holding a blazing torch aloft to find his way forward, he slowed as he heard a sound like the shuffling of pages. He peered around the corner and saw an empty desk, then looked down to see the blade that had pierced his rib cage from behind. So no fek tried to turn to at least get a glimpse of his killer, but he couldn't muster the energy as the blade slipped back out of his chest.
EsbenPM had spent the first two days of the mafia invasion building a stockpile of weapons he would never use. Late during the second night, he was fiddling with the trigger locks on his various shotguns while chomping on salted peas. After dinner, he went out to his garage to check on the gun racks he had just painted. Once in his garage, he reached for the switch on the wall, but lights wouldn't turn on. A sudden rush of fear came over him, and he wished he had brought one of his guns with him, even a sidearm. He thought about trying to sneak back into the house, but, instead, he felt his way to a crowbar leaned against the wall. As his eyes adjusted to the darkness, he could see the outline of man. EsbenPM charged and swung with the crowbar, but his adversary shoved it from his hands, then swung a board crushingly into the side of EsbenPM's head, killing him instantly.
Koopie had spent years recreating her house into a scale model of Princess Peach's from Super Mario 64. She heard a knock at her giant, red front door.
"Hi, I'm here to install the cannon out front by the moat. Can you sign here please?"
The finishing touch had finally arrived, and Koopie went upstairs to watch the installation from behind the giant stained glass window that bore her image, as well as her favorite video game character's. The cannon was plopped on its stone foundation, and it's barrel moved to point squarely at the face of the "princess". "He couldn't possibly...." she thought, seconds before an artillery shell with a shark-like face blew Koopie and her home to smithereens.
First, sewers and so no fek. I'm not sure if this actually means anything, but it's good to take into account.
Shuffling pages and an empty desk? This seems quite interesting. This could be like... mixing poker and Ninjas, so chaoser? It should be possible, but I wonder if it'd be too easy. Might be the best match.
Another possibility is Rayne, but I believe that the shuffling pages and the desk have something to do with this.
Second, we have EsbenPM. Salted peas? Might that mean anything... probably not. Now, the most interesting thing about this to me is the sudden rush of fear. This matches really well with Ra.Xor.2's profile, where fear is continuously mentioned. Another thing we can note about this clue is that the man is extremely powerful. A child of God should be powerful, right? Like a demigod of a kind, like Hercules?
Another possible match would be JeeJee with his profile, but I believe that his profile matches far worse, and I don't really suspect him anyway.
Third, we have the interesting clue of Koopie's. Well, what do we know about the man who installed the cannon? He's very polite, and gains his target's trust. He also talks. I believe he's the same person as the salesman from Jimtudor's death, so first he does something to gain the target's trust, and then he betrays him, or deceives him. So it should have something to do with deceiving or something along those lines. Whose profiles might match that? I can't find any off the top of my hat right now.
Oh well, that wasn't as helpful as I'd have hoped for it to be.
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Hey, guys. Everyone is voting for RaYmE. This makes it more and more likely that he's not mafia, please keep your eyes open.
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On May 26 2009 04:24 The_Master wrote:
Guys, this voting doesn't make any sense.
People voting for Shikyo:
crate
teks
wurm
JeeJee
Knutti
Pawsom
Okay, makes sense since they think he's Mafia. Now look at one person Shikyo is voting for: omG.[RaYnE].
People also voting for omG.[RaYnE]:
JeeJee
teks
vx70GTOJudgexv
wurm
Shikyo
chaoser
crate
clazziquai
Knutti
The_Master
People voting for both Shikyo and omG.[RaYnE]:
crate
teks
wurm
JeeJee
Knutti
Okay. So, if you really think Shikyo is Mafia, either you think that Shikyo would vote for one of his own; or [at least] one of your votes is going towards a townie. If Shikyo was mafia, perhaps he'd vote for a mafian to make suspicion about him go away, but he is already under heavy scrutiny so I don't think that would make sense.
Please rethink your voting. We do not want to hit a townie for no reason.
I changed my vote away. So thanks =P But it doesn't really work anymore. I still really think that way too many people are voting for him.
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I definitely agree with all three of those, the clues pointing to BWdero most likely being the weakest. I already voted for Ra.Xor.2 and chaoser, and advice everyone else to do so as well. I doubt Rayne is mafia with how little support he is receiving, and I think everyone can read back a little bit to see what I think about voting for me. 
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Yes, I'm afraid my clue analysis got drowned, but I also have something against Ra.Xor.2.
"Second, we have EsbenPM. Salted peas? Might that mean anything... probably not. Now, the most interesting thing about this to me is the sudden rush of fear. This matches really well with Ra.Xor.2's profile, where fear is continuously mentioned. Another thing we can note about this clue is that the man is extremely powerful. A child of God should be powerful, right? Like a demigod of a kind, like Hercules?"
I think it's slightly weaker than the clues pointing to chaoser.
"Shuffling pages and an empty desk? This seems quite interesting. This could be like... mixing poker and Ninjas, so chaoser? It should be possible, but I wonder if it'd be too easy. Might be the best match."
But I voted for both of them. Black bolt would be one of my next picks. Once again, the reason why I don't think that RaYnE is mafia is simply because too many people have been voting for him... although maybe they've just following JeeJee's advice? I still don't think he's as strong of a match, and he or someone else can be rolechecked later. I really hope we can hit twice today, since we really... are running out of time.
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The behavioral analysis is quite far-fetched and you're making all my actions seem like I'm mafia. I think that you're trying to force your case by every means possible. Why are you so stubborn that you can't even consider yourself being wrong?
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On May 26 2009 07:51 JeeJee wrote:
ALL THE VOTES FOR CHAOSER ARE CUTE BUT PLEASE STICK TO THE PLAN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE TOWN ALIGNED, the last thing we need is a frickin' repeat of qatol in mafia vii.
Wasn't he the primary elected role? dundundundun
Why are you so much against me all of a sudden? The evidence is weak and I think you're still sure I'm a townie.
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The thing about shuffling pages is sadly true. Well, crate's sig is "I do read sometimes". That would be juicy, now wouldn't it? Sadly, I doubt he's mafia. There's still the ninja reference, though... But I'll consider this. =) And it's actually being against bandwagoning rather than being bandwagoning... I guess.
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On May 26 2009 08:51 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2009 08:35 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Hmm... this brings JeeJee out as suspect, perhaps he is mafia and wishes us to get rid of the Sheriff and his ability to sway the votes? It would seem that we need to vote for JeeJee as well at this rate.
Such an angry post is very unlike him. I also see that JeeJee likes these bandwagons and wants them to continue...
@JeeJee:: It is rather unlikely that the same thing that happened with Qatol would repeat itself so soon. Once again.. I see nothing in Shikyo's profile that can help align him with any of the kill-clues, and by now we have had eight kills performed by mafia; assuming that at least one set of clues is a double pointer to mafia as all mafia should have at least one clue pointed to them by now (Pidgeon Hole Principle) this makes it unlikely that Shikyo is suspect.
However, looking at your profile, and how you'd hate to see tears of angst in others.. it could match any of the clues as they've all been attacks from behind which makes it easy for you not to have seen their faces and any possible tears. Additionally all those bits about fear.. You're easily more suspect than Shikyo is. yes except i'm already a proven townie to the circle. btw you meant mayor not sheriff. Here's something for you to chew on. Shikyo knows who both of the detectives are (even before teks sent us/him the PM before the zeks hit). So if he's a town-aligned mayor with three very powerful votes (which, as you can see can clearly stop bandwagons if he so chooses, and start new ones on random people like chaoser, but not on people like jayme). Yeah, he's totally fulfilling his campaign promise of not starting bandwagons or ending them. /rolleyes Why doesn't he come forward with this information to the town, and instead generally specifying "i know four blues". Yet we manage to lynch only townies and eight townies have died so far. Moreover, both DTs trust (or trusted, depending) shikyo, but shikyo has not spoken to either DT to make them trust each other, and there is still suspicion there and it took something completely other to make them trust each other and work together. But hey, if they both cluecheck the same fucking clue or rolecheck the same fucking person because they dont know what the other is doing due to lack of trust, that benefits the town right? NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE IF HE IS TOWN-ALIGNED. DON'T DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN IF YOU ARE TOWNIE, PLEASE.
Huh? I pointed out the detectives to each other. Am I now supposed to make sure they become friendly? Come on, I can't do everything on my own. Maybe they should talk to each other themselves, do I have to babysit everyone?
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And by the way, I also was planning on organizing the town, making sure DT checks dont collide and organizing medics, telling them who to protect etc so they don't protect the same targets. But you guys decided to stop trusting me. You know, maybe I would actually be able to do something if you actually trusted me? It's pretty difficult to do anything when no one listens to me, isn't it?
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That being said, chaoser really doesn't seem like a mafia right now, and I'm willing to take the chance with another, better suspect like BWdero for now.
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I don't think rayne has a high chance of being mafia because of 1. the clues being quite weak and 2. Too many bandwagoners, no mafia ever has everyone bandwagoning for him.
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On May 26 2009 09:12 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2009 08:57 Shikyo wrote:On May 26 2009 08:51 JeeJee wrote:On May 26 2009 08:35 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Hmm... this brings JeeJee out as suspect, perhaps he is mafia and wishes us to get rid of the Sheriff and his ability to sway the votes? It would seem that we need to vote for JeeJee as well at this rate.
Such an angry post is very unlike him. I also see that JeeJee likes these bandwagons and wants them to continue...
@JeeJee:: It is rather unlikely that the same thing that happened with Qatol would repeat itself so soon. Once again.. I see nothing in Shikyo's profile that can help align him with any of the kill-clues, and by now we have had eight kills performed by mafia; assuming that at least one set of clues is a double pointer to mafia as all mafia should have at least one clue pointed to them by now (Pidgeon Hole Principle) this makes it unlikely that Shikyo is suspect.
However, looking at your profile, and how you'd hate to see tears of angst in others.. it could match any of the clues as they've all been attacks from behind which makes it easy for you not to have seen their faces and any possible tears. Additionally all those bits about fear.. You're easily more suspect than Shikyo is. yes except i'm already a proven townie to the circle. btw you meant mayor not sheriff. Here's something for you to chew on. Shikyo knows who both of the detectives are (even before teks sent us/him the PM before the zeks hit). So if he's a town-aligned mayor with three very powerful votes (which, as you can see can clearly stop bandwagons if he so chooses, and start new ones on random people like chaoser, but not on people like jayme). Yeah, he's totally fulfilling his campaign promise of not starting bandwagons or ending them. /rolleyes Why doesn't he come forward with this information to the town, and instead generally specifying "i know four blues". Yet we manage to lynch only townies and eight townies have died so far. Moreover, both DTs trust (or trusted, depending) shikyo, but shikyo has not spoken to either DT to make them trust each other, and there is still suspicion there and it took something completely other to make them trust each other and work together. But hey, if they both cluecheck the same fucking clue or rolecheck the same fucking person because they dont know what the other is doing due to lack of trust, that benefits the town right? NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE IF HE IS TOWN-ALIGNED. DON'T DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN IF YOU ARE TOWNIE, PLEASE. Huh? I pointed out the detectives to each other. Am I now supposed to make sure they become friendly? Come on, I can't do everything on my own. Maybe they should talk to each other themselves, do I have to babysit everyone? Thank you for ignoring everything else in the post, I assume you agree with the rest. As for the DTs, from what I've been told, it's a problem when one of them messages the other and the other has not even heard of the first DT's existence. So pointing them out to each other clearly didn't happen (and i'm willing to take the DTs word over yours with respect to this matter, or any matter at this point, really). Show nested quote +And by the way, I also was planning on organizing the town, making sure DT checks dont collide and organizing medics, telling them who to protect etc so they don't protect the same targets. But you guys decided to stop trusting me. You know, maybe I would actually be able to do something if you actually trusted me? It's pretty difficult to do anything when no one listens to me, isn't it? Yeah, you were planning. How long were you planning to start actually doing it? You had a lot of knowledge even before jayme's lynch. You had definitely more knowledge during the night, and clearly our medics did brilliantly there, we didn't even have to debate over any missing hits!
Dude, I have no clue about who the medics are. And I still am not a confirmed townie. In fact, my first plan was to just get some confirmed townies together and to think of stuff together and someone everyone could roleclaim to. I left myself out of that because I wasn't, and still am not, a confirmed townie. Do you really think it's that unreasonable to try to butt myself in everywhere? I made a medic list and told them to give priority to teks, what else do you think I could have done without a direct contact to any medics?
I'm not sure what's the problem with the other DT not knowing who the other one was, I'm sure the other DT will know who the other is when he messages him. I still was fairly certain I pointed that out to them. If not, I'm sure either DT could have PMed me and asked me to explain it to them.
Did you check who were killed that night? They weren't exactly the first people to come to my mind. Were they in yours? Well you should have told the medics to protect them, then.
I was starting on doing it when I knew who the medics were, when the town trusted me, and when I had the list of people who claim to be townies. Since I'm not confirmed, it's possible that someone else should do that instead, and I could just tell them who each medic could protect instead of me knowing everyone's roles. Why are you asking so much of me, though? You're a confirmed townie with access to all the information, and you're the primary electee. I'm not really sure why any of that makes me mafia. Like, at all.
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Nice!
to not try to butt* I knew I made a bad typo somewhere =P
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planning on starting on doing it* 3:20 am + fast typing taking it's toll. -_-
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So silly ^_^ I request that the time of the posts is changed to such that us living in europe have a chance to change our votes at the end... like tonight I would have. At least I was right about rayne ^_^ And Ra.Xor.2 is mafia, too. As is motbob. And l10f. Sadly, no time to change my vote away so BWdero got lynched. Oh well -.-
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On May 26 2009 21:22 motbob wrote:
ILoveKTF, Shikyo, and Ra.Xor.2 are pretty clearly mafia. I say this becasue of the stunt ILoveKTF tried to pull where he voted just a liiiiitle too late for it to count with votes that would have tilted things in our favor (aka lynching either Shikyo or Ra.Xor). I call on everyone to lynch Shikyo and ILoveKTF tonight. If we don't all work together on this, we will lose. period. Vote to lynch Shikyo and ILoveKTF.
I guess this guarantees that motbob is mafia.
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On May 26 2009 19:32 BWdero wrote:edit: i suggest town surrenders, you obviously suck balls.
This, btw
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On May 26 2009 22:21 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2009 22:16 Shikyo wrote:On May 26 2009 19:32 BWdero wrote:edit: i suggest town surrenders, you obviously suck balls. This, btw Like Qatol, you're not even hiding it anymore.
lol
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Maybe we can still win? Make sure to lynch motbob and Ra.Xor.2.
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