Mafia VIII [GG] - Page 8

On May 21 2009 10:16 Ver wrote:


Yup Mynock you know it's coming.

I have been busy yes, but I've still been around plenty. I have pm'ed a lot of people I felt were innocent regularly after I realized talking in the thread was useless, and have been busy doing analysis and feeling too apathetic to deal with this awful mess. It was a real pain trying to refigure out this game after I realized a huge number of people that I considered were playing well below their normal level are simply dumb non-mafia. Yeah it was a huge mistake to run for mayor and watch it kill my motivation, sorry. But I don't care about fulfilling campaign promises if the situation changes. As mafia I have much more reason to keep suspicion off myself and stick to what I say whereas I'll do if I please if I'm innocent.

Don't worry my reveal-all post will come soon. Need to write it and send some things to my coalition first.

On May 21 2009 10:38 L wrote:

Obvious one? Your buddy running mate Ver.

On May 21 2009 10:41 L wrote:

It was Ace's defense last game.

I agree its a bullshit defense, but it was actually valid in the most recent example of it being used.

On May 21 2009 10:44 L wrote:


MTF, we already 100% agreed that if Ace is mafia and he's going down, its always in his best interest to pardon the other player, mafia or not.

If both Ver and Ace are mafia, your analysis of the 'large bandwagon' is consistent with what most mafia players would do in the current situation. Drop Ver, switch to Ace.

And regardless of the nemY situation, if Ace flips red, the voteswing is a voteswing. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHICH SIDE HE'S ON.

On May 21 2009 10:47 L wrote:


When incriminated by versatile you threw up your hands said the town was stupid and won a titay.

On May 21 2009 11:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
he may be the only one who believes ace is mafia, however, he could easily be traitor, or a retard towny. The longer the ace/L fighting continues the longer the town will be in chaos. As such we should off ace tonight as he is a suspect to put an end to it all.

On May 21 2009 11:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


It proves his role, means the town sees that he is infact a blue and rallies behind him

On May 21 2009 11:27 Showtime! wrote:
So Plexa does have a voice after all. Why do you think Ace is mafia?

As for Ver's post, I really don't know what to make of it until after the lynch.

I'm really confused as to why you would withhold this information from us for this long. Wake up!

All of us are playing bad.

On May 21 2009 11:37 Plexa wrote:
The reason I think Ace is mafia/traitor is that this is exactly how he behaved when we were mafia together whether or not this behavior came up in other games im not sure. But from my experiences this is enough for me to think he needs to die

On May 21 2009 11:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



For someone who specializes in behavioural analysis ace, the fact you dont know where it came from is amusing. You have spent the last 2 days arguing with L trying to save your own skin when your incredibly shifty, and not offer any other leads except "lynch ver, or look at these people". Instead you argue and create chaos, and hense why you've been labeled as the traitor.

As for him getting modkilled/killed tommorrow, IT validates the list he just gave as hey, hes blue (once again analyze his behaviour and thats the common ground you get). I'm a bloody clue analyzer and spotted him as blue during elections. IF i can do that, you should have every blue in the game so far, but instead, your creating chaos, seems rather laughable to me as well that as i read this post of yours i see you calling the "tl:dr" comment sketchy as hey, you pulled it last round and it was legitimate.

Pull your head out of your ass and accept that you die either in lynch or to a vig.

On May 21 2009 11:48 L wrote:
I've already stated his position on the Ver list makes him a very suspicious target after we get our information : ).

But glaring mistakes are pretty much ignored by the town, because your post had 2 and most of your posts contain one if not more.

I like your coolacecucumber return to form, though. Shoulda kept that up the entire game.

On May 21 2009 11:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


I've yet to see anything out of you other than random pointing, and arguing, if your so 1337, why don't you provide some magic list of reds youve found.

As for finding blues yo? You need to find either greens/blues to get a circle going but hey you know that as you typically do it everygame, except rather than work with people this game, your barking like a dog and hoping we'll listen.

On May 21 2009 11:49 dreamflower wrote:
All right. I wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but I'd like to mention my own reason for believing Ver is innocent. Why do I think this way? Because I'm still alive.

Normally, these two things wouldn't be connected in the least. However, well before Day Two occurred, Ver contacted me through PM to say he believed I had a blue role. Specifically, he said he thought I was probably medic/DT. This alone made me think that he wasn't Mafia, because he wouldn't have bothered to PM me at all if he were; he would have just killed me. Why leave a potential victim the possibility of getting protection? Being tired and surprised, I worded my response rather regrettably in a way that probably wouldn't convince him otherwise. When Day Two dawned, I knew that if he were Mafia, I would be dead.

The fact that I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as a blue, persuaded me that Ver is innocent. Why leave a blue role alone, especially if you suspect them to be a medic or detective? Both are potentially far more valuable and devastating for the town to lose than two bodyguards, because of their inherent abilities. I'd have made a far better target than poor LucasWoJ or mikeymoo. Instead, I didn't die, even though he had figured me out as blue.

Thus, logically, he can't be Mafia. Which means he's innocent and has the town's best interests in mind, more so than the likes of Ace and L bickering and quarrelling with each other.


Here are the PMs we exchanged, if anyone wants concrete proof about the conversation.

To: Ver

Subject: Re: your mafia role
Date: 5/18/09 12:25
Ironically, I just wrote to you not thirty seconds ago. And no, no one has contacted me. The confusion over nemY has pretty much occupied everyone's minds, and I don't think I would have come to anyone's attention anyway.

What makes you think I'm a medic or DT? Or even a blue role?

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Original Message:
I think you're a medic or DT.

What do you think of the current situation? Has anyone else contacted you that's playing?

On May 21 2009 11:50 L wrote:


Someone just said your style this game and last game were the same as evidence you're innocent. You now state the opposite but didn't call it our early.

k.

But srsly, coulda avoided so much hassle if you kept things civil T_T.

On May 21 2009 11:57 L wrote:



You just fucked up REALLY hard. Go check your statement and your vote today : ).