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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:25 GMT
#1328
On May 21 2009 12:22 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:18 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:16 Ace wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.

Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all.

eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^


MTF fishy?

...

This is a Veteran's game at least make your bullshit interesting (this goes for you too BC)

consider: out of nowhere he comes out with a clue analysis that I quite frankly think is a little bit too directed. Rather than let the clues find somebody, he's finding somebody with the clues-this is always a good way to hide clues as mafia-by impaling townies as red herrings. Especially when these people are considered suspicious already by the general town.


The only person I went into the analysis thinking were suspicious out of those I listed as being possible matches was Ver, and I like to believe I can separate my bias from my analysis. Dreamflower and Infundibulum just came up.

That's the issue though: why is dreamflower being so accepting of your clue analysis? Doesn't it just seem weird that DF is kind of willing to take the lynch up the butt? And more importantly, if this analysis is so strong, then why isn't Infundibulum on the lynch bench?

I'm half sleep-deprived atm though, so I am probably rambling.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:26 GMT
#1330
On May 21 2009 12:24 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:23 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:19 Ace wrote:
yea you just "randomly" voted for someone after less than 10 hours ago you were having pretty coherent arguments with L.

Then you call out MTF for being fishy when he's been pretty sane in his arguments thus far.

Just dont be surprised you get to sit in the derp derp section with BC and dreamflower (Ver can't sit with you he'll be dead by then)

I looked at the primary instigators of all this shit: it's mostly a back and forth between you and L. I asked you if you thought L was just retarded or traitor, and you said both, so clearly there's no need to lynch him atm. Naturally, if you flip green/blue it would've been a poor choice.

To be honest though, I doubt either of you are mafia.


which would mean you would have never voted for me if you didn't think I was mafia. Come on man, do better than that.

The very fact that you continue bringing up this controversy can lead me to only naturally assume that you are being scummy here. I don't understand why you don't simply just [i]drop it-it's a really, really stupid idea to get caught up on.[/s]
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:26 GMT
#1331
On May 21 2009 12:25 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:21 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:19 MTF wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:15 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:13 MTF wrote:
And with Caller's switch we have Ver & Ace tied at 11 each.

Wonder why Caller voted for me in the first place, after all.

eh you were fishy along with some other people. I figured that this incredibly poor excuse for a lynching was getting pretty stupid and just randomly picked somebody I thought was fishy ^^


Why switch at all, then? What changed between then and now, ignoring the obvious changes of the time before the vote ends and the arrival of several previously quiet Ver supporters?

I'd rather not disclose the reason at this time.


That's a laughable argument to use. Really.

It's even moreso in that the only information that you could be wanting to innocently hide, namely that you were a DT and rolechecked either Ace or Ver, is impossible at this point in the game.

Check PM, I think I can trust you with that much.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:28 GMT
#1336
On May 21 2009 12:27 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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On May 21 2009 11:09 MTF wrote:
O, and seeing as you're looking for voting stuff, look at the current situation:

Ver's Mayoral Voter List:

BloodyC0bbler
Caller
Scaramanga
Mynock
0cz3c
dreamflower
RebirthOfLeGenD
Vivi57
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Incognito <-- from Showtime
Malongo <-- from Ace
LucasWoJ

Ace Current Lynching List:

L
nemY
dreamflower
Amber[Light]
Bockit <-- from Ver
Plexa
BloodyC0bbler <-- from Plexa
Scaramanga <-- from Ver

Italics are overlapped. Dreamflower has only ever posted in the thread to defend herself and Scaramanga has been even more inactive, yet they both voted in Ver and are both gunning for Ace.

If Ver is Mafia and some of those who voted for him also are, and now they want to switch over to Ace, they're doing a pretty poor job of it right now.

I am a couple of pages back, but for the record.

I voted Caller.

good man

wait this isn't for mayor

wtf
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:33 GMT
#1344
On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:
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On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.

Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow.


how much $$ you wanna put on this?

Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE

a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL!
b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives
c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo)
d Random activity posting
e Not lynching Nemy.
f PMs

All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED.

this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen.

Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation.
This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet...
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:37 GMT
#1348
On May 21 2009 12:35 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:33 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:32 Malongo wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:23 Ace wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ace, ver will die flip blue, and then town realizes the retard in office is hey, YOU.

Then we look at your supporters through this retardedness and have an idea who to lynch tommorrow.


how much $$ you wanna put on this?

Ver is not blue. Why the hell do you think a veteran would go first in mayorals runners, win the fucking election and all the reasons i labeled before. In fact if he is veteran he is a dumbass. Put yourself in Vers "veteran" position you will see the truth. As I said I dont have a fucking real clue against Ace but VER IS NOT TOWNIE SIDE

a Roleclaim MAYOR veteran LOL!
b Lynched infinity a random player that gave us 0 info about the mayorals or inactives
c Lucaswoj incident (I think mafia just messed up with milkymoo)
d Random activity posting
e Not lynching Nemy.
f PMs

All this are not little mistakes: they are plain stupid plays, VER IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO THIS IF TOWN SIDED.

this has got to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen.

Even if he isn't, Ver has a good incentive to RC veteran. It'll discourage mafia from hitting him at night if he's town, or it may discourage people from lynching regardless of his affiliation.
This is coming from someone who's been relatively hidden all game and has been very shifty-quiet...

Caller:
Mafia KP=3 2 veterans in the game. DO YOU RUN AS MAYOR? Hell NO.

why not? There shouldn't be a restriction on who is allowed to run for mayor or not. Maybe he was going to bluff mafia into wasting hits on him or something.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:43 GMT
#1355
Ace if you're going to be that passionate about it, I'll make a deal with you. Convince me why I should vote for Ver over you. And none of that bullshit anti-L argument.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:49 GMT
#1361
You know what? The very fact that so many people are last minute switching to Ace convinces me. I hate bandwagons. Sorry Ver, but you didn't follow up with your PMs.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 03:54 GMT
#1366
On May 21 2009 12:52 L wrote:
And caller, the sketchiness of what you just did is pretty fucking off the charts.

good. As if the last minute vote switching of everybody else isn't sketchy? Isn't it weird that suddenly a lot of people started voting for Ace? Isn't it weird that this sudden change is within 45 minutes before lynch closes?

Personally I don't really think either are mafia. But this sudden changing of votes has me worried.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:01 GMT
#1379
On May 21 2009 12:58 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:54 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:52 L wrote:
And caller, the sketchiness of what you just did is pretty fucking off the charts.

good. As if the last minute vote switching of everybody else isn't sketchy? Isn't it weird that suddenly a lot of people started voting for Ace? Isn't it weird that this sudden change is within 45 minutes before lynch closes?

Personally I don't really think either are mafia. But this sudden changing of votes has me worried.

You're part of that sudden change of votes.

If you were suspicious of people who are on the lists voting now, we could figure out their stories with the confirmation of mafia/town post lynch of Ace and Ver and your suspicions would come to good use. We would be doing so on Day 4 with another 2 days worth of clue analysis and 2 days worth of mafia hits to give us information.

So why the fuck would you say: Yo, guys, don't fling mud, that's weird, then toss a gigantic glob of it with the intention of fucking the town out of its best bet?

I just dont' get that. I don't think i CAN get that. This is why I want to know what Ace/Ver flip. If you ARE mafia, i will be able to see you early on the Ver list. I will see your fucking retarded voting here. I will be able to examine what a mafia would do in that situation.

ha,
I wouldn't guarantee you, but I would take a bet that both Ver and Ace are innocent/traitor at the most at this time. Why would they do any of that stupid shit? I've already made this position clear made 99999999999 times.

Your entire plan rests on the idea that at least one of the two is mafia. I say neither is mafia. If you're right, we get a mafia and a vague idea of who else is mafia. If I'm right, your plan will pretty much kill us, as we'll be out both leaders, two good players, a vigi hit, and another 3 players (likely blues due to blue sniping) tomorrow.

What's a better deal?
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:02 GMT
#1384
On May 21 2009 13:01 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
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On May 21 2009 13:00 dreamflower wrote:
All right, fine. I'm finally going to roleclaim, because I'm tired of hearing people suggesting that I should be lynched one second and then coming up with plans involving the vigi hit the next. It's been amusing, but also incredibly stressful, and I feel I could be doing not only the town but also myself some good by doing this.

I'm the one vigilante in this game.

This is why I've been quieter than usual this game, though I doubt it would necessarily have been noticeable for most. It's why I've avoided the spotlight and tried to post only when I had something truly substantial to share or when I wanted to defend myself so that I could carry out my role. Ver did correctly guess my color, but not its exact, shall we say, flavor. But then, there are twice as many medics and detectives as there are vigilantes in this game, after all.

Now, why should you believe me? Well, it would be highly risky for Mafia to ever roleclaim vigilante, even in ordinary circumstances when there are more than one. In this game, when there's only one vigilante, it becomes even more dangerous, even for the godfather. They can't run the risk of having their clues repeat, as the vigilante has only one hit and which clues show up in the Day posts aren't under their control. It's true that Mafia can kill their own members this round, but I don't think they'd want to chance that, with only six members this game. So, I'd really like to see if Mafia tries to roleclaim vigilante as well, as I'm the legitimate vigilante and they, well, would just make themselves targets.


asdf i don't think you needed to do this at all

seconded...
if you really are vigi, then who are you going to hit tonight? You might as well tell us.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:17 GMT
#1409
L I just talked to Qatol

You are misspoken

Ver just asked if he could be modkilled and Qatol said yes.

That's it.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:27 GMT
#1426
On May 21 2009 13:26 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 13:21 Vivi57 wrote:
You guys do realize that ace is probably traitor right?

traitor's goal is TO GET LYNCHED. This delays the town by a day and helps the mafia.

What will you guys do when ace flips traitor?



seriously...what the fuck?

I R CONFUSED JA
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:27 GMT
#1429
On May 21 2009 13:27 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 13:21 MTF wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:19 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:12 L wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:08 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:02 L wrote:
Dreamflower. You will vig hit whomever is not killed tonight. If you don't, I am going to bring this town straight down on your ass tomorrow as planned. You will do this because roleclaiming will have you 100% killed, so its really not an issue either way.

If there is an extra hit tonight which corresponds with you, done. Problem solved. If not we proceed with tomorrow's double hit.


What if Ace gets lynched, so she vigi's Ver, who happened to not be bullshitting about being a vet?

Even if both are blue, we cant' confirm innocence unless Ver flips red on kill.

Either both bullshit about the hit, which is likely because they're both going to die day 3 anyways, or Ver dies to a clue linking to dream and she's proven correct.

Still working out the rest of the details, thanks for your input here.


I think requesting modkill points to being innocent. Reasoning: it lets us know his alignment without wasting a town kill. Also if he's going to be inactive again, it would be better to get rid of himself so the town isn't arguing about like we did all Day


Asking if possible =/= requesting.

Lots of flawed logic being used by all of you last minute voters.


I'm under the impression that he is going to be modkilled no matter what... maybe I misread something?

he's' not being modkilled.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:35 GMT
#1441
voting is closed already...
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:40 GMT
#1455
On May 21 2009 13:39 Ace wrote:
I hope I die by Ninja execution squad, it's the only way to go.

Caller you can have my pet rock collection.

wewt
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:43 GMT
#1459
GOODFUCKINGGOINGGUYZ
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:48 GMT
#1465
On May 21 2009 13:47 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 13:47 L wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:45 Ver wrote:
LOL. That's just sad.

Ok I'm gonna modkill myself.

Any final requests? I'll stay on and take them before I go.

Finally I can be done and take a break from mafia (I'm sitting out next game too I'm sick of it).


Release all of your PMs. They'll be fairly useful.

To: Qatol. When will Ver die?

When he asks for the modkill...........

he just did?
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 04:50 GMT
#1472
On May 21 2009 13:50 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 13:49 L wrote:
FULL LIST OF PMs.

Go.


That's probably a lot...

not gonna lie this is true tho lol
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 21 2009 06:00 GMT
#1489
Well, L, see! I knew it, I just knew it. GFG.
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