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On May 17 2009 14:56 nemY wrote:
Btw guys if it's really that big of a deal to you, just make sure the votes are safe enough for me to be Pardoner... I don't really have any intentions of using it.
Then why fing run in the first place? You could have stayed hidden and off the radar (which is what a dt should be doing.) Your entire play is sketchy this game.
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Considering the chances of getting one member elected, or another one highly regarded by town to draw medic prot, its a chancy gamble that could pay off.
You tend to be pretty ballsy
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On May 17 2009 15:34 Bockit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 15:19 Caller wrote:On May 17 2009 15:16 Vivi57 wrote:
so nemy went from running on air to roleclaiming dt out of nowhere
after a LONG time, he finally posts pms with little to no info in them which prove nothing
now, he wants to be PARDONER, not mayor.
call me paranoid, but I definitely don't trust nemy's position. you seem to be generalizing a lot, nemy's pms do have some interesting points implying a deeper connection between him and Incognito unless you apparently have more information than those pms? I don't see what is generalised there, nemy did just nonchalantly ask for pardoner instead of mayor, he did roleclaim dt out of nowhere, and he took ages to post about 10 lines of pm material. Btw, in case people are overlooking this (I was guilty of this for a couple of minutes) Incognito is supporting the pms as legitimate, that doesn't mean nemy is detective, it just means they had a pm conversation.I think I'm going to keep my vote on showtime.
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As, i believe ace mentioned, Do we really want to give an elected spot for someone who hasn't shown calibre of play that is required to be mayor/pardoner. Nemy has even said he doesn't care about having mayor, and would prefer pardoner.
You guys busted my balls for wanting it, yet at least I had reasons for it. Then he says, he will never use it, so he wants the free protection. Free protection in which nemy has wanted in almost every game he has played, he always "runs" for mayor, if he can, and usually with a lacklsuter campaign at best that gets no where.
He is never a top suspect, so he doesn't risk death early game, yet he is so frantic this game? My bet is hes a bored townie, or traitor. This overall doesn't seem like a smart red move.
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Guys just mentioning this for well why not.
Why are we voting mynock? I mean period? In every game I have played with him/hosted. He has never come off as someone I would want to follow. Ace plays a similar style (not exact but they have similar ways of dealing with things) that I wouldnt want to follow either, but he has way way way more experience so would be a better candidate over mynock in that sense, but seriously, we want someone to be elected with pretty well no leadership experience(see last game, he was part of malongos fun pals).
The way i see it, Ver is in, showtime, caller and myself although would make good leaders obviously aren't getting the position, so that leaves Ace, mynock, and nemy for the other slot? fuck, give it to ace of the 3, then med protect nemy.
Mynock has yet to seriously prove himself in my eyes to deserve that slot, and again YOU ALL FLAMED ME for wanting pardoner, YOU ALL FLAMED NEMY for wanting pardoner, but its ok for mynock, thats called bullshit.
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Ace, i was gone after for wanting pardoner. Nemy and Mynock have made the same claim of role they want.
Nemy wont use it and is being flamed for multiple reasons, wanting pardoner is one of them.
Mynock wants it and not flamed (because of him saying roles were basically same thing?)
We then realize pardoner is damn important and he is overlooked on that. Each person has a playstyle in this game where in two elected positions, their strength is better, mine is always better for a late game elected position in the sense im most effective then.
I have said this before and will again, Behavioural analysist as mayor, and clue analyzer as pardoner OR Major strat planner as mayor, and behavioural analysist as pardoner make for a solid team.
Ace, Ver, and Mynock are all behavioural mainly with minors in planning. I'm not even saying vote me, Just realize if your going to vote for two of those three people, do it at least in the two strongest players, which would be ver and ace. Although I think it would be interesting to see Mynock as a mayor, I certaintly dont want him to have the power of pardoner.
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why don't i vote in malongo while im at it 0cz
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Cam always hides in the background, and i can say i haven't seen him online in the last two days, so who knows whats up with that, however, MBH is someone only ace would know where he vanished to.
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You find a way to convince them to pull votes off him call all the power to you, somehow i dont see it coming right away.
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On May 18 2009 05:34 HeavOnEarth wrote:
i'll totally run for pardoner and do absolutely nothing
it's my pledge to the people to Liquida
So you would lose the function of meat shield then?
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Infundi, just go with ver hes a safe bet, and if we aren't careful he wont get in period.
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On May 18 2009 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2009 05:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, just go with ver hes a safe bet, and if we aren't careful he wont get in period. Yeah i think I may do this. If my current vote count is correct it's Nemy 6 ::Ver 6 :: Mynock 4 :: Ace 4, for the leading candidates. Ver is probably in, but i can help keep him in the mayor spot. Convenient way to dodge the burden of choosing pardoner 
Pretty much
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If we were like the town from last game, we would have elected mynock and malongo by now and be 3 lynches into our own town and blaming you ace for the fuckups, I dont think we could ever repeat that horrible form of play
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he seems to be pulling similar tactics to ace which is things like tl:dr
or telling people what he feels they have to know over what they should know. Pretty popular tactic used by better known players of the game. However his execution leaves alot to be desired
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This is true, he has, except theres one little snag out of all the games it has happened. This primarily the top players TL has. A strat like this is well, too beginner, even for nemy, there is far more to this than is being said, untop of that, ace has gotten random votes swapped to him near last minute.
Way to fishy
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On May 18 2009 07:03 Incognito wrote:
I feel uncomfortable about Ver since he really isn't doing what he says he would be doing. Traitor? Maybe. But that's besides the point. This L/Ace argument is getting us nowhere. And you both know it. I doubt nemY is mafia. On the other hand, I do have doubts on Ver/BC. I really don't trust Showtime! in a position where he is not able to be confirmed. And if Ace is going to act this way as mayor he probably shouldn't be mayor.
The thing is, if nemY is DT I would be ok with him being mayor/pardoner. Yes its good to protect key players. But these key players are generally hard to figure out. And on top of that, a lot of information can come from their deaths, assuming they take those precautions. However, a dead DT isn't worth all that much.
Nemy is either retardedly dumb townie, or part of a brilliant mafia plan. As I doubt he is this dumb, I'm leaning towards red, but I also believe either mynock or ace is possibly red as well.
Nemy, if a dt, has just fucked town royally.
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The issue being bockit, Ace has gotten random mystery votes, showing signs of mafia possibly pushing him into mayor position. They auto lynch nemy, he in worst case scenario flips blue and town starts the we are fucked boat.
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Scamp, Aces play and nemys play Do not add up.
Ace is way too aggressive, Nemy is way too retarded. Its too cookie cutter perfect.
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I would put nemy on veteran before putting him on dt, this way he would milk multiple hits early on.
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