On May 21 2009 13:11 Ace wrote:
Check it - infundibulum and RoL just zerg rushed too.

Take dreamflower off my list until another person claims Vigi. With 6 players Mafia won't want to or hope that an inactive Vigi was the case.

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS - clear the Vigi issue first. Once thats done, go back to voting list of zerg rushers. Your FIRST suspect should be BC, second should be RebirthofLegend and Incognito.

Then and only then shall you move on to nemy. Don't drop the fucking ball on this.

Medic - of all people not to protect tonight DO NOT protect anyone that voted to have me lynched. DO NOT FUCK THIS UP. There should only be ONE person on that list you should even be thinking about protecting and it's so fucking obvious I wont even say it.

Last but not least, READ my posts. There are tons of little hints in them.

I'm going to quote this and bring it to our attention. Once Ace's full list of quotes are out I'll suggest we go through those together as town too.

There is a LOT of finger pointing that Ace did that I agree with. A lot of fishy voting and supporting that that went down. I will post a full analysis of Ace's suspicions, why they mirror my own in many cases, and what we can do with the full list of voters once we figure out what Ver is.

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 06:01 GMT

#1490

Worst possible outcomeeeeeeeeeeee

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 06:32 GMT

#1509

On May 21 2009 15:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok guys.

Now in the horrible shock of all this. We should now be looking for prime mafia candidates.

I'm assuming L, that you have no issue with us getting on track now?

GIT R DONE.

We have plenty of info to go on at this point. I'm re-reading old posts atm from day one.

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 06:42 GMT

#1512

In accordance with both Ver and Ace's wishes, I want a few players to come forward and explain their shit.

In particular:

Plexa.
MrBabyHands.

Give a reason for your incredibly sparse posting. Give me the results of your behind the scenes work.

Town: We need to hit 2 mafia in the coming day or we will be significantly behind. If we can knock 2 out, however, we are in a good position to win.

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 19:43 GMT

#1540

On May 22 2009 03:42 Ace wrote:

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Lets play DOTA right now

Wait for me, lol.

Rereading this thread is fucking tiring. Every page is like a list of regrets.

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 20:44 GMT

#1544

Okay, I've done my day 1 reading.

nemY's probably mafia. In fact, when the day 3 rolls around, I'm pretty sure it'll be 100% confirmed for various reasons.

Tricode, I am 90% certain, is a fucking stupid townie, but a townie nonetheless.

Mynock, I am 90% certain, is legit as well.

Scamp looks very red :3

Some thoughts.

Ace and Ver were innocent. During the opening phases of the election, mafia would have likely put 1 or 2 on either/or in order to be able to cut support and spread out their members in order to hide them. Mafia would have a candidate running, though.

Likely Showtime. Earlier on the scene than nemY, showtime had a burst of votes very quickly on the premise that he's a douchebag. Bandwagon forming activity which was then abandoned rapidly when Ace said that all candidates would be checked. Ver pulled far ahead and mafia realized that even with a 2 vote swing (from Ver to Showtime), Ver could remove support from showtime and end the incipient steal.

After abandoning Showtime, nemY pops up and then goes afk for the majority of the game after failing at getting office.

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 21:28 GMT

#1552

On May 22 2009 06:07 Tricode wrote:

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Hey, I'm 110% your the most retard townie here. Every person you seem to want to lynch turns out to be a townie. You only accuse townies so far we got a count of 2 people.

Congrats fucktard.

I onn the other hand was very hesitant to vote for them. Not because i believed they were 100% townies, but because i wasn't sure they were actually mafia yet, though i did find things odd.

So in those regards, you are a well played mafia/traitor or you are on a newb killing spree. Have fun killing more innocents.

Token retard post.

Lol he insulted me, maybe I'll call him mafia in return

That's quite useful.

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 21:54 GMT

#1555

We'll see how useless this has been come tomorrow :3

Canada4732 Posts

May 21 2009 22:19 GMT

#1558

On May 22 2009 07:08 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey stop that
you're supposed to be mean so i can have an incentive to argue

Also, one thing that L assumed(?) in lynching ace or ver is that the blue's had to have roleclaimed to Ver or Ace.
This is obviously not true. . .

Well, not quite. If there was a roleclaim, it would mean that Ver shared the knowledge of a BG. That's one of the reasons I wanted his full list of PMs, but he kinda lazied out of this game.

That said, it DOES seem far more likely that there was blue analysis going on, but that can't explain BODYGUARDS. It does explain fishball. We'll know more by the volume of blue hits we receive tonight.

Canada4732 Posts

May 22 2009 04:00 GMT

#1592

Is dreamflower around?

I just woke up. Need to speak to you.

Canada4732 Posts

May 22 2009 04:48 GMT

#1605

Doesn't matter, mafia already sent in their hitlists.

Canada4732 Posts

May 22 2009 04:54 GMT

#1609

Quite simply, I was playing mindgames because we're quite short on medics, and quite long on targets we need to protect.

This is also why I started 'shit' up with nemY. Figured rather make him less attractive to mafia to kill by making controversy around him to feign debasement of his findings and provide a potential innocent target to try to swing to during tomorrow's double.

Also, MBH has been talking to me behind the scenes. He guessed my role correctly. His suspicion list is nearly Identical, in part, to my own. The key for the following night is going to be getting that detective information blended in with the clue analysis and behavioral analysis to confirm some solid theories people have about mafia.

If I die, I sincerely hope you guys can keep it fucking civil and stick to the evidence in front of you. Its been good times.

I need to stop being an insomniac so I can write this shit out earlier and not be racing against the clock.

Canada4732 Posts

May 22 2009 04:59 GMT

#1614

The devastating switch was that I had dreamflower hit caller over MBH so they had to write new clues based on that. If mafia switched targets, all Qatol would have to do is copy past the name and then put up blue or green brackets around them.

Canada4732 Posts

May 22 2009 05:00 GMT

#1616

And the fact that Qatol inadvertently admitted they needed to re-write shit means that dreamflower is nearly 100%confirmed innocent.

Canada4732 Posts

May 22 2009 05:15 GMT

#1631

I was pretty sure I was going to die tonight, so I've already told all the important townies about each other in small groups.

There's going to be an avalanche of high quality analysis posted tomorrow.

lets have fun watching the game from the sidelines, now, caller.