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And another game begins.
Just finished reading the thread. I have to say, the contract killer really is an interesting role. I really like this idea of trying to get him on our side by trying to align his goals with our goals. It's something the mafia can't do because they obviously can't post in the thread blatantly advertising their services so it's an advantage (if at this stage tiny, perhaps much more exploitable as the game progresses) that we should make use of. Stating the obvious here but if we can get the CK on our side that's an unlimited vigi, something worth spending a considerable amount of effort to get.
I can't say that these are definitely correct but I'd like to put them out there for consideration.
It is likely that the CK have to survive the entire game
The deals they make are relevant to the win condition in some way. This one is much sketchier so I'd like opinions on it but first let me explain my reasoning. Possibilities here could include 'the side you make the most deals with has to win'. This is worth considering because it promotes the idea playstyle where the CK will play both sides until a point where they can pick which side is going to win and align themselves with them. Which means that if we do find the CK, we need to be careful we don't give away too much info.
Moving on from the CK for now:
Mayoral elections, not sure who to vote for yet, I'm not too impressed by stuff like 'I worked hard to ensure town victory in x game', I much prefer to vote for the player who I essentially think is better than the other candidates at stuff like behavioural analysis (eg why I voted for MBH last game, I think most people can oragnise the town well if they are active enough).
Clues:
Dreamflower covered everything I saw in the first post. I'd like to get people to please stop posting about 3 lions  I think we finally proved (myself included) that it's useless to bandy about day 1 clue *accusations*. Much better to do what dreamflower did and come up with potential clues. To take it further, here's how I would rank the potential clues that have been noted so far.
Clues I see as likely
Incomprehensible phrase
TV/TV exploding
Clues that I'm not sure about
Both looking up
Clues that I think are just creative writing (eg kicking as a form of attack in mafia 1)
BloodyCobbler being left to die slowly.
I'm by no means an authority on the subject though, so people please discuss.
Which leads me on to my final point. We need to keep this thread active! Yes it is active at the moment, but in a couple of RL days? I think a pivotal factor in the last game was that we were incredibly active for the majority of the game. So discuss!
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On April 23 2009 03:27 semioldguy wrote:
A Contract Killer siding with the Mafia can no longer think just about himself because the Mafia member he is in contact with has more power than he does. The Contract Killer is likely to have more power than the town member he is in contact with thus easier for him to keep relations positive. As a Contract Killer put yourself in the position of power in the relationship with your contact and side with town.
To the CK:
If your victory condition is indeed based on surviving until the end of the game, I think this is a point you should strongly consider when choosing which side to approach.
@sog
It's definitely in the towns best interests. We lose nothing by cooperating with the CK and only have potential gains. We can't really contact him by advertising a blue (this is silly), if he finds one of us through rolecheck then he knows a role already. So by cooperating, we have no losses that are avoidable, so I say that we cooperate (It's 5am I just finished a huge report and I'm having trouble making that sentence work, please forgive me )
EDIT: Tried to fix that sentence and some other grammar.
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People are reading wayyy too much into the way he voted for fakesteve. Fakesteve's platform has been his usual sort, involving a little spice/humour to differentiate it from the usual stuff we get. I'm pretty sure quickstriker was just running along with Fakesteve's style. To me it didn't come across as overly serious, yet still a bit of appreciation for Fakesteve. And then he got called out for 'trolling' when he wasn't and got a little pissed off it seems. Nothing that really indicates mafia to me tbh.
EDIT: Dunno why but I was thinking his name was majorstriker, maybe I'm thinking of that oldschool game...
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It's not that long a thread guys, it's only about 8 or 9 pages of content worth reading!
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On April 23 2009 18:04 Showtime! wrote:
Must be RaGe or Bockit o.o
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Edit: All your account are belong to me.
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I'm pretty sure I'm dead.
Have fun~
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And if I wasn't, I'm sure as hell screwed now >_>
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On May 08 2009 08:23 HeavOnEarth wrote:sorry bockit
Haha 
On May 08 2009 09:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2009 09:08 LucasWoJ wrote:On May 08 2009 09:06 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On May 08 2009 09:05 LucasWoJ wrote:
Well, I don't think you were on to ME before the day post. If you had lived, I imagine, I was insta dead (perhaps after eclipse) yeah that last pm, why did you even send that lol haha, I was hoping you would respond in a similar manner, and then I could have altered your death wishes for everyone to read on the forums. lol just make it up lol at everyone believing Qatol's presentation of other people's PMs, like Bockit's which he edited
Just clarifying, they were my PMs, he just cut out about 2 paragraphs which counteracted something he wanted town to believe. That said, people need to be more suspicious of people posting pms, they are the easiest thing to fake, *especially* when the other party is dead and can't call it out.
Also I hope town have learnt not to just bandwagon vote the first candidate that runs. Also I think we seem to have this mindset (probably from game 2) where we rely on the mayor for leadership. Why is this necessary in a game with this ruleset. All the mayor gets is a bunch of extra votes and bg protection. Sure, that makes it easier for the mayor to lead, but green townies could actually step up to the role, instead of just complaining about how bad town is.
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On May 08 2009 13:01 fusionsdf wrote:
pretty disappointed I was hit first night.
Why was I chosen?
Right before Ver went MIA, he gave us a list of potential blues, (Based off his model of how each person behave in mafia games) . You were on that list (I think it was about 5 people he was almost 100% on), and we all agreed you were a good hit.
The reason we double hit pyrr at the same time was cos of a few mistakes we made, he had a good chance of working out 2 of us thanks to some pm's he'd exchanged with 3clipse and lucaswoj so they wanted a double hit to ensure he died. That hit was purely lucky that he was a dt.
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