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On March 19 2009 09:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2009 09:31 Bockit wrote:On March 19 2009 09:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On March 19 2009 09:24 Bockit wrote:
Just a note about the whole Pika Chu//Pikachu situation, if you remember from Game 2 crazie-penguin was literally a penguin in all the stories, and it was the subtle things like not being able to speak, having 'wings' instead of hands that were what gave it away. Much like grabbing a gun with a tail and running close to the ground match the actions of a character with the body of a pikachu. but having his hands behind his head to indicate the tail isn't very likely, if they were behind his back maybe How is he going to "grabbed the gun and threw it to the side" with his hands behind his head if he doesn't have some other way to grab a gun beside his hands? Pyrr has suggested a tail and has provided a lot of supporting evidence and supporting clues to match a theme for this. I suggested using a mouth (not a tail) to throw the gun. EDIT TO ADD: Mouth makes more sense to grab things than a ram's horns, imo.
true but a rams horns make it easier to throw/rip something out of someones hands than a mouth does. Im not saying leperkhan is guilty im saying the clue can point as strongly to him, and prob 1-3 other people if you look into their profiles and the like.
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On March 19 2009 09:55 redtooth wrote:
Holy crap that turned into a straight up essay.
Sorry guys and good luck wading through all of that.
Don't matter, you raised valid issues, and voted responsibly, what more can we ask for.
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1. Camlito
3. BloodyC0bbler
8. Lurker
9. ydg
13. Night[Mare
14. JeeJee
17. RebirthOfLeGenD
24. Snet
32. MrBabyHands
33. Centric
34. Kennigit
35. Icysoul
37. Versatile
38. blue_arrow
39. RaGe
43. Lucktar
46. Humbug
50. motbob
57. nemY
59. semioldguy
60. aZnvaLiaNce
64. Rice
65. JL13
Those are people who haven't voted.
I can't vote for myself, hense why i haven't but I am active.
I would assume semi old and mrbabyhands is in the same boat.
If elected to mayor instead of sheriff i will lynch one of those inactives.
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Semi Old is well known mod
I've played in many mafia games, and one of the core people responsible behind the mafia 3 town circle.
I was killed first night in aces game, I've run a mafia game, played in callers, first one then won his second one
so yes I'm known in mafia games 
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That is true fusion, and well understood, the difference is, they aren't running.
You asked about me and him, i gave my part on me, his is quite possibly just his name, but he also is active and trying to get votes.
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Rice
Hes one of the inactives and i random picked him off the list. Id rather get rid of an inactive than a active player on a first day lynch.
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could just take the hit i sent In instead haha.
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He asked us to submit who we would have lynched if we were chosen as mayor, i said Rice for being inactive, I said as much in here.
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Hes the behind the scenes mafia rule enforcer, smiting players wherever they go.
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K i just got home from work, and read as quickly as i could through all this so I'll add my two cents.
Vig idea is great to an extent. Everyone is assuming every player is watching this game closely, and will do their part intelligently. Problem, people arent that good.
When I ran a game, mafia had convinced one medic to be their bitch, another one protected them a few nights as well. The vigi's got a lucky hit and an unlucky one, etc...
Players at the end, have their own list of suspects, that can and most likely will differ from that of the people posting the most actively.
As such, those players who will disregard all previous shite going on in this thread and kill who they want, MUST PROVE THEIR HIT by analyzing the clues pointing to them (how hard is it to clue analyze a kill if you know you made it). I proved my vig role in mafia 2 to ace this way, and to my knowledge its how Mynock proved his innocence to people in the game I ran.
If your intelligent and following this thread closely, the previously mentioned plan can work.
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Oh to mention it now, Tommorrow I work morning (so in 8 and a half hours) and heading out most of the night, so IF i'm on it will before work to contribute or after I'm home from partying.
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haha I wish i could, but well, work, drinking, dancing, many women are in my future tommorrow.
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First off, I’ve been insanely inactive the last day or so, but aside from work I should be good to go now.
First off, 4 hits last night, all on major names, 2 greens, 2 blues.
Scara
Camlito
Ver
Qatol
Of those 4, 2 of them were insanely active with analysis, and planning(coincidently the 2 blues)
However, we learned a bit from those two deaths.
To start with,
Ver is the only one who had two people attacking him, which most likely indicates the mafia sent two hits on him. This would make sense due to the information we have. Second, It means from this, 5 mafia hits are showing for the night, making 1 med who did their job correctly.
With Qatol, we have a mafia who is athletic for jumping precariously and at the same time someone who is armed to the teeth.
With camlito we have someone who seemed to be someone camlito recognized as “safe” before he was attacked and killed. The mafia in this case also had pockets full of everything.
And lastly scara, his mafia killer taunted him and let him run into a trap.
Scara’s death gives us a lot of information however, that the current team of mafia players, for the most part, are retarded.
Scara was one of the towns top lynch suspects before he was killed, hell Ver was campaigning his death, and they killed him, showing that a) the mafia aren’t reading the thread carefully or 2) they aren’t seasoned players and made a rookie mistake.
Ok guys, time for some analysis wooooooo
Starting with Camlito’s as I have the strongest analysis for his killer.
This mafia fits one major bit of information from day 1, deception (the one who helped chuiu up making him feel safe?) He did it again here, as Camlito recognized him and didn’t think the man was going to kill him at first. He also seems to not throw things away.
I would say the killer in this case is one of two people, Humbug or BumatLarge but I personally believe that it is Humbug.
My reasoning for this, he has no profile to begin with, so you have to take everything that’s a clue towards him, from his name.
Here is the definition of Humbug
1. Something intended to deceive; a hoax or fraud.
2. A person who claims to be other than what he or she is; an impostor.
3. Nonsense; rubbish.
4. Pretense; deception.
This is a name that lies completely in deception, which we have seen a mafia do on two days now, deceive two people before killing them.
Also however, one ebenizer scrooge is most known for saying the phrase “bah humbug” and if you look at that, scrooge was known to be an old miserable miser (he didn’t give anything away, ever which would make him a collector for the most part). He was also a man who hated charity, and when camlito tried to reason with him, he was punched for it, as letting him go would be an act of compassion or charity which the man was against.
I surmise that based on the origin of the word and the person who used it most, that Humbug best fits the description of that mafia for the moment. Time to move to the next.
Scara’s killer taunted him, and let him run to a door, open it wide and die. I currently believe that this mafia is the one and only Kennigit.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Kennigit
kennigits profile. In it his quote is that he loves catching people in the act, that’s why he whips doors open. In this case he caught scara in the act of fleeing for his life, by having a door whipped wide open and being blown to pieces.
As for the taunting, that image has LOL typed over and over before a an annoying image of an asian kid waving and winking. Which could be a taunt.
Moving on.
Qatols killer, an athlete, and someone armed to the teeth.
I Propose that this mafia is JeeJee
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=JeeJee
there is jeejee’s profile. We see his profile lists what you need to do to be a top athlete, which explains why he could jump on the chairs repeatedly without falling. It also states that not to fear the person but their skill and ability,
This explains why he was armed heavily, Qatol is a top notch mafia player, which means you would need a lot to take him down, so he armed himself accordingly.
Lastly, the way he knifed qatols hand matches another part of the clue. He was rocking the knife back in forth in his hand, much like someone trying to lodge a shovel into a hard part in the ground you rock it back and forth to make a spot to get a good grip.
He has that he is a dig power user in his profile.
This is all for now. But this is a start.
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On March 22 2009 07:34 mikeymoo wrote:
I'm awfully confused, I thought Ver hit Scaramanga? Have we determined that it was a mafia instead? Did I miss a post somewhere?
@BC: Reading your post atm.
A special note on roles: All roles must be used at night and only the Detective clue check ability and Medic ability may be used on Day 1
No way ver could use his hit, ie, mafia did our work for us, why would they kill one of the towns major targets? Shows inexperience. So no, ver could not have used his hit.
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and off to work i go, be back tonight.
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On March 22 2009 13:33 Ace wrote:
Btw I'm not saying BC was wrong for the move, I just wanted to hear an explanation since it seemed to come out of no where.
Myself and well as hes dead doesnt matter, Qatol figured that most medics would be retarded and not cover who they were supposed to. Since there were 12 names on your zodiac(myself being one) that left 11 to be protected, 4 via meds then i could incarcerate one and prot them for a night.
I sent in a list of 7 names, order of importance, and the first two on my list are now dead, so ace was next up after that.
On March 22 2009 10:33 0cz3c wrote:
BloodyCobbler, I read your analysis on Kennigit and it seems fairly solid. Indeed, I have not seen him posting much at all. I'll revisit the previous post in search of anything that would relate to him.
"Scara’s death gives us a lot of information however, that the current team of mafia players, for the most part, are retarded.
Scara was one of the towns top lynch suspects before he was killed, hell Ver was campaigning his death, and they killed him, showing that a) the mafia aren’t reading the thread carefully or 2) they aren’t seasoned players and made a rookie mistake."
You may be missing the obvious here. They may have sent in their hits to Chuiu, and he took a long time to make the night post. I don't know. Whether or not that is true, I thinks it's far to presumptuous, and extremely detrimental for us, to simply wave the mafia off as retarded. If we assume that my first statement is not true, then mafia would be under the knowledge that Scar was not one of them, and the town's eye, led by Ver, was on him. Why would mafia kill him? To tell us Ver is wrong about one, so he's wrong about the other? That's certainly the emotion that was instilled into me before I saw SoG posting that he had checked Mandalor and had found him to be red.
Maybe they thought he was BG? Ver explained that there was confusion about that (or, at least he said so in his post). What about the fact that he's on Ace's list? They've been minimizing Ace's list. Why? If there are mafia on that list, then it seems almost suicide to them. Guess they realize that those players, nevertheless, must be gotten rid of. I don't know.
Put it to you this way, chuiu did take awhile to put it up, but that gave them time to change their hits if need be. Scara was being witch hunted by Ver, so chances are he woulda died by town hands instead. Also note that we said that scara roleclaimed BG to me, and chuiu said he swapped all the bg's because of a rule mishap. IE they knew he wasn't one anymore.
I'm not saying they are retarded, but chances are they aren't being as careful as they should be.
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I vote for Humbug
I vote for double lynch
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For tommorrows lynching.
The top two suspects at the moment if i am correct are
Rice and Humbug?
Keep both these names in mind when the next round of clues comes in, as if we can link either of them to the day we are set, aside from that, keep your eyes open for clues linking to
JeeJee
Kennigit
Laxercannon(i believe he was mentioned earlier)
3 lions
for now, as they have been mentioned have have a few links to.
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