EPTi play mafia all the time but I always miss the TL games
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
i play mafia all the time but I always miss the TL games | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On February 28 2009 22:55 LTT wrote:From there, everyone needs to PM the veteran their roles. I was with you until this. Is it really legal for town members to claim in private to eachother? You'll probably think I'm maf for saying this, but that's incredibly lame and allows for a scenario such as the one you described where it's very difficult for the mafia to win. This is my first mafia game with TL, so I'm more than willing to play by whatever style you guys are accustomed to, but in every other mafia game I've played, the only townies allowed to communicate in private amongst eachother are masons, and that's a specialized gametype. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On March 01 2009 00:32 BWdero wrote: It is very much legal. It's how town won in game 2. And since I was mafia in game 2 i can tell you that is indeed very hard to win against and thus very beneficial to town if we can pull it off. My point is it's too beneficial. It's beneficial to the point that it's ridiculously imbalanced for town. Yes, mafia could fakeclaim, but not very easily. It would be impossible to fakeclaim as a veteran, since with LTT's plan they would all be verified, so that's already a bunch of guaranteed town. They could try fakeclaiming as a paramedic, but as soon as someone died that they were supposed to protect, it would be suspicious. Of course they could choose not to kill that target, so as not to arouse suspicion, but it would further shorten their list of viable targets. They could fake claim private eye, but even that could be outed by having the main veteran tell them to investigate someone they know is a veteran, and seeing if they correctly identify them. I'll do whatever is necessary (and legal) to win, I just think it's pointless when the game is virtually solved from the beginning. It takes the point out of the game, which is trying to read people and determine how sincere they are. Of course, there will always be an element of puzzle-solving, as there should be, but when it's 100% out of the hands of either team, that's a bit ridiculous. Sorry, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. I just wanted to voice my concern, and this will be the last post you see me doing it from here on. It is a very well thought out plan, LTT. Kudos for that. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
Why would you be against this at all? Shady, man. Very shady. I'm against it because I'm in favor of a fun, fair game. Think what you will. I'm not mafia. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
Paramedics please protect me. Other veterans, do not use your extra vote today. I will use my extra vote today to verify I am indeed a veteran. | ||
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If that's the case, I cast my vote (and my extra vote) on blue_arrow. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
I saw the idea that maybe the "some that looked like they had been incarcerated for past crimes" line may be a clue, but I think that was just flavor text. I don't think he would give us such a huge clue as that. It's a moot point anyway since he won't be lynched. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On March 01 2009 01:11 LTT wrote: Dyno, can you confirm in this thread that you sent a PM to Chuiu regarding your vote? You are probably a veteran, but if not I don't want you to have the excuse that "I didn't know I had to PM Chuiu".  yes, it's already sent | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On March 01 2009 09:54 JeeJee wrote: has dyno said anything to anyone for a while it would suck if he's inactive =-= The last time I posted was only 12 hours ago. I do sleep, and I do have a job. I'll be doing my best to keep up with everything, but you guys need to understand you've placed a lot of responsibility on me. I'm up to the task, but I'm not going to be able to read this thread nonstop every day. In fact, it would be very helpful if someone could provide occasional summaries of all significant activity. That said, I've read every page I've missed so far. ![[image loading]](http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5851/pms.jpg) Ugh, here we go... | ||
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LTT TruthBringer Caller nemY ydg dreamflower Monoxide bwdero fusionsdf LucasWoJ Amber[LighT] ahswtini Mandalor 3 Lions Scooter redtooth JeeJee Trezeguet23 zeks Icysoul TranceStorm iNfuNdiBuLuM bumatlarge 3clipse JL13 ChaosBringer IloveKTF Qatol Bockit LaXerCannon Humbug Rice LordWeird Tensai176 blue_arrow Scaramanga Naib Malongo | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On March 01 2009 13:26 Scaramanga wrote: I did pm you If your name is _not_ on the list. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On March 01 2009 14:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Yeesh. Have Dyno. recheck his PMs and check them for timestamp as well because everyone is getting suspicious of me because of this mistake of yours. I role claimed at 3/1 8:12 and after reading this hubbub I roleclaimed again at 13:48. I sent both PMs to Dyno. with a period at the end. Edited for too much caps. You have indeed PM'd me. I accidentally left you off the list because you sent a lot of PMs and got sidetracked reading them. | ||
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LTT TruthBringer Caller nemY bwdero triflejack fusionsdf Bockit Rice ahswtini Mandalor Scooter 3 Lions redtooth LordWeird pandabearguy Ra.Xor.2 aZnvaLiaNce Humbug Trezeguet23 blue_arrow ydg dreamflower LucasWoJ d_so Amber[LighT] JeeJee zeks Icysoul TranceStorm iNfuNdiBuLuM bumatlarge3clipse JL13 ChaosBringer IloveKTF Qatol CynanMachae Tensai176 Scaramanga LaXerCannon Teejing RebirthofLegend Night[Mare Monoxide Naib MasterOfChaos Malongo I'm still missing roles from 13 people. If your name is not on this list, I still need your PM. | ||
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Everyone that has a significant action to play tonight has already received their instructions from me. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
lakrismamma fearus These are the only people who have not PM'd me their role. | ||
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Dyno.
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Claiming should be public. Period. The inherent risk in claiming is exposing yourself to the mafia and potentially making yourself a target. However, it's still viable because there are medics to protect you. Additionally it might be worth dying for to give the town the information you have, and if mafia kill you and your role is revealed, that information is guaranteed to be true. I had fun, I guess. I called from the very start that this game was ridiculously imbalanced for town, and that was before I knew about the fact that we were all power roles. Thanks for the game guys, but I doubt I'll be playing again. | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On March 03 2009 14:17 Ace wrote: While I agree things should be more public we're playing on an internet forum - really there isn't much anyone running the game can do to stop that. Granted, but claiming is only useful if you use it to organize the town with the information they get. If the game organizers saw people making assumptions on information they shouldn't know, they would be able to determine people were privately claiming. Additionally, I like to think that most people here have some ethics and if Chuiu banned privately claiming most wouldn't do it, and those who did would be ratted out by those who don't (in the spirit of having a good game). | ||
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
On March 03 2009 20:22 malongo wrote: no if there are no confirmed roles. In fact its always mafia that take advantage of private communication. ...and loses anyway because private town communication is so broken? | ||
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