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On January 02 2009 16:07 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: what if Scara or or Amber was in contact with someone else they didn't mention? there is also that possibility This is true. And now they're dead so we don't know. Okay. Sleep for real now.
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On January 02 2009 16:09 nevake wrote: Scara was extremely open to me. Blind trusted me with camlito and amber's name without even knowing my role. He told me himself that it was his goal to "spread the information" among the network when I asked him how much he had told everyone. I have very high doubts that he told anyone else after I told him to stop telling people. Not sure how mikeymoo found out about camlito, but the fact that he didn't know amber's role shows that he wasn't in full contact like me and lucas were. Cam told me straight up after I posted what roles should consider doing in the night. He said he was trying to be obvious to lure a hit.
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On January 02 2009 22:31 LucasWoJ wrote: BUT you completely ignore the fact that I had no idea of your and amber roles until like 20 minutes, a time which I was AFK (ask mikeymoo once again), before the night post. And why would I target a zombie when I know the identity of the other jack, a detective, both vote riggers, etc? It just doesn't make any sense. Mikeymoo found out about your claimed role almost at the same time that I did. Since scaramanga didn't PM me outside of that, mikeymoo was in as much indirect contact with him as I was in direct contact. Again, you're not thinking nevake.
I will vouch for the first statement. Lucas told me he was afk. He could have still been here, mind you, but that's what he told me and he has no site activity for that amount of time.
About the current situation:
1. Lynch Lucas - Lucas flips red, reveals no alignment about nevake, but seems reasonable he is what he claims to be. He let the mafia do the dirty work on him. - Lucas flips blue, again, simply reveals nevake is wrong- reveals no alignment. Lucas has been claiming green, fwiw. - Lucas flips green, same as blue.
2. Lynch nevake - nevake flips red, no info about Lucas, however he is more likely to be green. - nevake flips blue, one more kill against mafia later when we need it, shows that his intentions are true, but again, there are logical flaws in his argument, so no info, really. - nevake flips green, hmm... I'm just going to rule this out. I don't know why nevake would be green.
Neither lynch does us any good.
I would suggest that anybody who contacted nevake or Lucas (NOT YOU OCZEC) contact me and give me names of who else you contacted. I think I've proven I'm clean- there's a hit on me, and my behaviour from day one should hold quite a bit of water. If there is a leak, we will find it.
As for clue analysis, I don't think we have anything solid to go off of, but keep digging.
So, are there any alternatives to lynch? Certainly. Maybe Latham, again. Ver hasn't spoken up (I think he said he'd be away), so maybe we should run with this one. I don't think there's any merit to lynching Lucas or nevake just yet. We need some more information.
Other roles, could you send them to me? Even if you're townie? Mafia can tell me too, if they want. It might be nice to have a directory going on. I won't leak the information to anybody- I will just funnel it back and forth between all of you. Again, the fact that I was targeted, and the way I defended one day one should be enough proof, yes?
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On January 03 2009 03:43 Incognito wrote: That would be reasonable, except for the fact that the mole gets his info tonight. So perhaps we should split up the information so that the mole can't get all of it. Like in the last (failed) game, we just have to compartmentalize to limit our losses. Any other confirmed blues/greens we can trust with info? One. But I won't say who, for obvious reasons. Blue cannot be the mole, so we can trust blue immediately.
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5 godfathers anyone?
I have faith that caller made a balanced game.
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On January 03 2009 00:00 malongo wrote: Amber[LighT] please take lucaswoj with you. Reasons: A) He was in touch with most of our dead blues. B) Nevake asks to kill them both, lucaswoj asks to kill none of them C) He was in touch with attackzerg, and put an obvious fight against him, then attackzerg bombed. D) His quote "Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut and the rest of his profile is junk added for mafia. Quote links to the first night:
So They Came Into The Outway It Was Sunday - What A Sad Day (original is black day) Mouth To Mouth Resus - Citation Sounding Heartbeats – Recognition
E) He modified his profile with a msg to caller thanks Amber[LighT]
I'm going to mention this seems like a bad idea for now. We need to see how things pan out. I'd like to get more info from lucas about who he contacted before we do anything rash. Why not save amber for when we've essentially confirmed a mafia?
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Alright, extra clue from a DT who requested it from caller! Raekwon: And if you want beef then get Muhammed Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' ta fuck wit Straight from the motherfucking slum that's busted Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' ta fuck wit
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nevake, is it possible that out of the people who died, they leaked to other people? Obviously they can't talk. I think Lucas is green/red. Not blue. Since there's so much against him and he'll probably get hit/boondocked/whatever tonight, maybe it's best to have DTs check lucas, lynch lucas, and hope for the best?
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Clue analysis sent to me via PM: ok so i was listening to wu tang and i realized something, RZA (the founder, founded another group called gravediggaz)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Heros)Pink
that's the profile of herospink
that seems VERY CONNECTED
also, this is a stretch but ol' dirty bastard's other nickname is dirt mcgirt and nevake has a picture of a girl with the word soil on her shirt.
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On January 03 2009 06:22 mikeymoo wrote:Clue analysis sent to me via PM: ok so i was listening to wu tang and i realized something, RZA (the founder, founded another group called gravediggaz) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Heros)Pinkthat's the profile of herospink that seems VERY CONNECTED also, this is a stretch but ol' dirty bastard's other nickname is dirt mcgirt and nevake has a picture of a girl with the word soil on her shirt.
This is good enough for me, btw. Heros)Pink goes down because I don't want to vote lucas or nevake or oczec
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Another PM, could be same guy, could be different. "Here is a list imo of potential mafia based purely off posting behavior.
Latham Inertinept Night]Mare Showtime! More_Minerals Kuja900
They either say a ton of nonsense (quite irritating), don't offer clue analysis, or haven't posted recently."
Heros)Pink, is the guy PMing me is mafia and the clue is wrong, then he dies too. Easy as that. You just shrug off/get angry at any accusation. Maybe you've just got a short fuse, but I personally like the clue.
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I won't be awake for the lynching (I've said that before and woken up, but I swear I won't be up this time). My vote stays where it is. *crosses fingers*
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On January 04 2009 02:15 RaGe wrote: ughh caller kinda leaked he wasnt mafia when he said the names weren't clues. such a pointless lynch Caller was being ambiguous. He said something like "that's not what I said" or whatever.
As for posting things out in the open, my position was compromised this game. I can't exactly lay low anymore, so I may as well be everybody's mouth. I'd rather get lynched than be converted, to tell the truth. I typically play to win, but trying to get converted and win on the other team after gathering information is not my style at all. It's selfish.
So here's the deal. If I don't die tonight, or on night 3, lynch me + any other suspect on day 4. I'm a good target for conversion, so you may as well lynch me and get it over with. People will be suspecting me from day 4 onwards, and it's not a good idea to keep me around. I will make sure that somebody legitimate gets the info before then.
There's no way to get the godfather this game if he lays low. The clues are barely enough for DTs to clue check, and he can't be role checked. In addition, let's say the godfather hasn't been sending in hits. We're fucked. Give him medic protection. We're super duper ultra fucked. I'm trying to organize town as quick and efficiently as possible, so that we can hopefully pick off a few mafia, reduce KP, and hopefully have a chance at this.
The mole is given out tonight. And there's one conversion tomorrow night. We need to take care of mafia, now. How do we find out how clues work? Well, if caller doesn't answer things straight up, we either need to lynch or take him out at night. Heros)Pink was green, so fuck me I'm sorry. Looks like clues don't work that way.
To be honest, the only thing keeping me fighting in this game is that I don't know how many blues are left.
Again, I'd rather get killed off tonight or lynched in the day than continue playing in a game where everyone is scared of giving info thanks to the mole and the conversions. We need to act quickly, effectively, and if there is a leak, annihilate it with extreme prejudice immediately. I would suggest that the remaining Boondock Saints contact me so their hits don't overlap.
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Before I get silenced or killed, more goodies from my PM box:
"Raekwon (Nailed Theses To Your Door) (Then A Bullet Sparked, Fired) And if you want beef then get Muhammed
posible keywords: luther, reformation, protestantism religion, islam, conversion, muhammed ali.
main connections:
truthbringer. Profile: "And on the 8th day, God created ownage . . ."
Night[Mare. Profile: Pain makes one suffer. Suffering makes one think. Thinking makes one wise. And Wisdom makes life bearable.
Ghostface Killah It Was Sunday - What A Sad Day Mouth To Mouth Resus - Citation Sounding Heartbeats – Recognition posible keywords: feeling, comparisom (sunday vs sad), recognition, admiration.
main connection: Lucaswoj. profile: "Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
Ol’ Dirty Bastard (He Left The Floor, Totally Wet with Blood) (Then You Were Dragged Into The Bathroom) posible keywords: exaggeration, liquid, dirty, clean. main connections: redtooth. profile: see ketchup. "
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EDIT: I'm silenced, fuck me LOL
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Can I talk now or do I keep the duct ta--MMFFFPPHHH MMMMPHHH! *struggled breathing*
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Mafia allstars game. Like 10 of us gogo.
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I can't believe Showtime died. He was holding my info. My question is who the Godfather converted. People who have contacted me via PM, send me something that tells me what you think of the current situation. Personally, I like the ydg clue, and fwiw I hit Truthbringer, so we should look at previous analysis and see what we can figure out. I'm going to sleep though.
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On January 08 2009 14:59 malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2009 14:57 mikeymoo wrote: I can't believe Showtime died. He was holding my info. My question is who the Godfather converted. People who have contacted me via PM, send me something that tells me what you think of the current situation. Personally, I like the ydg clue, and fwiw I hit Truthbringer, so we should look at previous analysis and see what we can figure out. I'm going to sleep though. What does that mean? your vigi? Yes. Boondock Saint. It's safe to come out now because my 2nd hit will be used tonight and I will be useless.
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