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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
January 02 2009 14:28 GMT
#581
Okay enough,

Why are you guys giving away your positions and airing out your dirty laundry in public?

I've just spent some time trying to catchup and holy shit.

It looks like other roles have been compromised already from some of the people I've spoken too.

I'm pissed.

This game could end before the appetizers show up. I've never seen a Town so self-owned before :/

SHIT

Now then, let's get it together and try to recover from our loses. We have a lot of work to do.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
January 02 2009 14:46 GMT
#582
Man each game the town plays so so badly.

Dying fast is the best because I did my part and now get to laugh.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 15:02:55
January 02 2009 14:58 GMT
#583
On January 02 2009 23:46 AttackZerg wrote:
Man each game the town plays so so badly.

Dying fast is the best because I did my part and now get to laugh.


You don't even know how it is to play as a fucking townie

you don't know how hard it is, you don;t have 10 friends who are all talking to you, you have people you don't know who are innocent, and 20 inactives

stop using town as a plural for every person. It's not everyones fault.
sAviOr...
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 02 2009 15:00 GMT
#584
Amber[LighT] please take lucaswoj with you.
Reasons:
A) He was in touch with most of our dead blues.
B) Nevake asks to kill them both, lucaswoj asks to kill none of them
C) He was in touch with attackzerg, and put an obvious fight against him, then attackzerg bombed.
D) His quote
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
and the rest of his profile is junk added for mafia. Quote links to the first night:

So They Came Into The Outway
It Was Sunday - What A Sad Day (original is black day)
Mouth To Mouth Resus - Citation
Sounding Heartbeats – Recognition

E) He modified his profile with a msg to caller
thanks Amber[LighT]





Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 02 2009 15:21 GMT
#585
On January 02 2009 14:45 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 14:41 Tensai176 wrote:
God damn it, I don't know anything about the Wu-Tang Clan.

Here I was going on clue analysis when I didn't know this important piece of info... Damn it..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan

ballin'!

i'mma look through all the songs i have of theirs to see if any of the songs would connect to people. god i hope if this is the case it's them as a group and not each of them seperately cause that's too much music x_x anyone else want to help? if so i'll take ghostface and raekwon, some one do ODB. one thing to note might be that ol dirty died in 2004 so that might help.


I think this leads to clazziquai. The whole clue points to rap music and clazziquai has some blogs about this.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
January 02 2009 16:52 GMT
#586
Well, at least the leak appears to be contained. I think we should get that one mafia in either lucas or nevake.
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
January 02 2009 16:59 GMT
#587
On January 02 2009 22:31 LucasWoJ wrote:
Nevake. Re-read my posts and answer them (and re-read the ones you feel you've answered. Your answers sort of show you aren't getting what I said. Maybe I phrased it incorrectly). You're completely ignoring my logic. I'm myself tended to believe that you're a zombie, as you didn't play like this when you were a mafia, but this is absolutely retarded. There's no logical reason to lynch me. I could choose a random person (say another green) and argue we should kill him for the very same reasons. It's absurd. There is no logic to your thought besides "he was speaking with scaramanga" BUT you completely ignore the fact that I had no idea of your and amber roles until like 20 minutes, a time which I was AFK (ask mikeymoo once again), before the night post. And why would I target a zombie when I know the identity of the other jack, a detective, both vote riggers, etc? It just doesn't make any sense. Mikeymoo found out about your claimed role almost at the same time that I did. Since scaramanga didn't PM me outside of that, mikeymoo was in as much indirect contact with him as I was in direct contact. Again, you're not thinking nevake.

Furthermore, you completely ignore the fact that I knew the identity of camlito. If I were mafia, NO ONE would send their (hopefully) last suicide bomber on a confirmed meth dealer. In case it makes no sense to you, he'd have no medics on him because the point of his role is to draw fire in from the mafia. There are no benefits in wasting a role that is meant to multi-kill on someone who is almost sure to be a single kill. A regular mafioso, if they really wanted to trade-off 1:1, which is once against stupid, would have done the same job.

Camlito was in contact with at least two others, but one of them is a confirmed blue and the other person is almost certainly blue. Unless the latter ran off with his mouth, there shouldn't be anyone else. According to mikeymoo, Camlito actually approached him and just straight up told him his role. If he did that to anyone, a mafioso say, it would be very beneficial to the mafia as they'd just ignore him. Clearly, the mafia didn't know Camlito's identity. Both you and I did.


I was going to try and plan my own lynching yesterday with mikeymoo in a way to draw in the mafia and get the detectives to prove their sanity. It was going to be subtle enough to draw the mafia in after me, but when someone's as innocent as I am right now, it's just a waste of time. Honestly nevake, your lack of clear thinking, rush of emotions and acting on nothing but wrong impulses might very well lead us to our doom. You, sir, are possible as bad as oczcec, at least at causing unnecessary chaos.

Town - Don't vote for either of us. I suppose you could, but those really playing this game should know it's already almost impossible to win. There are 10 possible mafia, one of whom is the doctor, one of whom is the GF. Assuming there are two moles (there are at least two jacks, so I'm assuming two Moles) and the GF successfully converts two people, there are fourteen mafiosos. With two wasted lynches (possibly three if there's a double lynch)


Note-- JL13, I added him, as well as a few others, after the first day because I realized I had forgotten to include any singers/songs.


Well, after reading this. Maybe there wasn't a leak so are we killing oc tonight?
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
January 02 2009 17:47 GMT
#588
couple of things about wu tang.

I'm assuming the GD's codename is RZA since he is the founder of the wu tang.
Ghostface also goes by Tony Stark(Ironman)
should probably look at the 36 chambers album since that's the first major one they put together
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 02 2009 18:30 GMT
#589
On January 02 2009 22:31 LucasWoJ wrote:
BUT you completely ignore the fact that I had no idea of your and amber roles until like 20 minutes, a time which I was AFK (ask mikeymoo once again), before the night post. And why would I target a zombie when I know the identity of the other jack, a detective, both vote riggers, etc? It just doesn't make any sense. Mikeymoo found out about your claimed role almost at the same time that I did. Since scaramanga didn't PM me outside of that, mikeymoo was in as much indirect contact with him as I was in direct contact. Again, you're not thinking nevake.


I will vouch for the first statement. Lucas told me he was afk. He could have still been here, mind you, but that's what he told me and he has no site activity for that amount of time.

About the current situation:

1. Lynch Lucas
- Lucas flips red, reveals no alignment about nevake, but seems reasonable he is what he claims to be. He let the mafia do the dirty work on him.
- Lucas flips blue, again, simply reveals nevake is wrong- reveals no alignment. Lucas has been claiming green, fwiw.
- Lucas flips green, same as blue.

2. Lynch nevake
- nevake flips red, no info about Lucas, however he is more likely to be green.
- nevake flips blue, one more kill against mafia later when we need it, shows that his intentions are true, but again, there are logical flaws in his argument, so no info, really.
- nevake flips green, hmm... I'm just going to rule this out. I don't know why nevake would be green.

Neither lynch does us any good.

I would suggest that anybody who contacted nevake or Lucas (NOT YOU OCZEC) contact me and give me names of who else you contacted. I think I've proven I'm clean- there's a hit on me, and my behaviour from day one should hold quite a bit of water. If there is a leak, we will find it.

As for clue analysis, I don't think we have anything solid to go off of, but keep digging.

So, are there any alternatives to lynch? Certainly.
Maybe Latham, again. Ver hasn't spoken up (I think he said he'd be away), so maybe we should run with this one. I don't think there's any merit to lynching Lucas or nevake just yet. We need some more information.

Other roles, could you send them to me? Even if you're townie? Mafia can tell me too, if they want. It might be nice to have a directory going on. I won't leak the information to anybody- I will just funnel it back and forth between all of you. Again, the fact that I was targeted, and the way I defended one day one should be enough proof, yes?
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 02 2009 18:43 GMT
#590
That would be reasonable, except for the fact that the mole gets his info tonight. So perhaps we should split up the information so that the mole can't get all of it. Like in the last (failed) game, we just have to compartmentalize to limit our losses. Any other confirmed blues/greens we can trust with info?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 02 2009 18:44 GMT
#591
On January 03 2009 03:43 Incognito wrote:
That would be reasonable, except for the fact that the mole gets his info tonight. So perhaps we should split up the information so that the mole can't get all of it. Like in the last (failed) game, we just have to compartmentalize to limit our losses. Any other confirmed blues/greens we can trust with info?

One. But I won't say who, for obvious reasons.
Blue cannot be the mole, so we can trust blue immediately.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
January 02 2009 18:50 GMT
#592
On January 03 2009 03:30 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 22:31 LucasWoJ wrote:
BUT you completely ignore the fact that I had no idea of your and amber roles until like 20 minutes, a time which I was AFK (ask mikeymoo once again), before the night post. And why would I target a zombie when I know the identity of the other jack, a detective, both vote riggers, etc? It just doesn't make any sense. Mikeymoo found out about your claimed role almost at the same time that I did. Since scaramanga didn't PM me outside of that, mikeymoo was in as much indirect contact with him as I was in direct contact. Again, you're not thinking nevake.


I will vouch for the first statement. Lucas told me he was afk. He could have still been here, mind you, but that's what he told me and he has no site activity for that amount of time.

About the current situation:

1. Lynch Lucas
- Lucas flips red, reveals no alignment about nevake, but seems reasonable he is what he claims to be. He let the mafia do the dirty work on him.
- Lucas flips blue, again, simply reveals nevake is wrong- reveals no alignment. Lucas has been claiming green, fwiw.
- Lucas flips green, same as blue.

2. Lynch nevake
- nevake flips red, no info about Lucas, however he is more likely to be green.
- nevake flips blue, one more kill against mafia later when we need it, shows that his intentions are true, but again, there are logical flaws in his argument, so no info, really.
- nevake flips green, hmm... I'm just going to rule this out. I don't know why nevake would be green.

Neither lynch does us any good.

I would suggest that anybody who contacted nevake or Lucas (NOT YOU OCZEC) contact me and give me names of who else you contacted. I think I've proven I'm clean- there's a hit on me, and my behaviour from day one should hold quite a bit of water. If there is a leak, we will find it.

As for clue analysis, I don't think we have anything solid to go off of, but keep digging.

So, are there any alternatives to lynch? Certainly.
Maybe Latham, again. Ver hasn't spoken up (I think he said he'd be away), so maybe we should run with this one. I don't think there's any merit to lynching Lucas or nevake just yet. We need some more information.

Other roles, could you send them to me? Even if you're townie? Mafia can tell me too, if they want. It might be nice to have a directory going on. I won't leak the information to anybody- I will just funnel it back and forth between all of you. Again, the fact that I was targeted, and the way I defended one day one should be enough proof, yes?


i still think that random townies shouldn't be put on the chopping block. every lynch we get should be a useful one against mafia but it's there's really nothing better than i think it should be used on 0c just cause I think he's village idiot too/gets his posts out of the way instead of potential innocents like latham
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
January 02 2009 18:50 GMT
#593
Kill me, I can fucking care less about this game now.
We lost anyways.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 02 2009 19:04 GMT
#594
I don't see why we think we lost yet. Sure we lost a jack/DT/2 medics, but as far as I can see, the town has a pretty good chance. Based on Lucas' post (assuming he's not mafia) we have ANOTHER jack/ confirmed DT/ 2 vote riggers. Assuming these can survive tonight, we're in good shape, especially with a martyr who can save from lynches and the fact that we two of their bombers are dead. It looks like Caller decided to fill the game full of multiple blue roles? (and doubles of mafia roles too. Lets not try to imagine the possibility of there being two mafia docs. That would be gg for us.)
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 02 2009 19:07 GMT
#595
5 godfathers anyone?

I have faith that caller made a balanced game.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
January 02 2009 19:17 GMT
#596
also, seeing as how there's only been five kill attempts, the KP of mafia should be at 5 with the death of the two suicide bombers (meaning 8 mafia right now) so KP should be 4 tonight. With the moles being introduced tonight though, depending on the number of moles, it will jump back up. So we need to hit correctly to keep KP down. Also there's the silencer so we'll have to see about that.

this game the mafia is pretty stacked since we have no idea how much KP they have/ability to increase KP but i'm sure it's balanced so i don't think we should gg and say we lost just yet.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
January 02 2009 19:18 GMT
#597
On January 03 2009 04:07 mikeymoo wrote:
5 godfathers anyone?

I have faith that caller made a balanced game.


lol never have faith in caller.
sAviOr...
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
January 02 2009 19:55 GMT
#598
One thing that's bugging me: how do the mafia send in their hits to Caller? If it's anything like past games here, and I'm assuming it is, they just send in the hitlist at once and those players die. SO why was the suicide bomber sent to Camlito, the meth dealer? If they just sent in a list of players, that means Caller picked the suicide bomber to die at the meth dealer's house instead of a plain mafia. I don't think Caller would do this; it would be very unfair. So this means the suicide bomber was sent to meth dealer's house specifically. Mafia would never do this unless they are suicidal (lolz) this game. So I am thinking that in the leak Camlito may have been represented as some other key role, and mafia believed he would be protected...It's the only way I can figure this makes sense.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
January 02 2009 19:55 GMT
#599
or maybe the entire mafia is suicide bombers
alas, a cruel mistress is fate
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 19:59:40
January 02 2009 19:56 GMT
#600
On January 03 2009 04:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
One thing that's bugging me: how do the mafia send in their hits to Caller? If it's anything like past games here, and I'm assuming it is, they just send in the hitlist at once and those players die. SO why was the suicide bomber sent to Camlito, the meth dealer? If they just sent in a list of players, that means Caller picked the suicide bomber to die at the meth dealer's house instead of a plain mafia. I don't think Caller would do this; it would be very unfair. So this means the suicide bomber was sent to meth dealer's house specifically. Mafia would never do this unless they are suicidal (lolz) this game. So I am thinking that in the leak Camlito may have been represented as some other key role, and mafia believed he would be protected...It's the only way I can figure this makes sense.


then what happens if a meth dealer was picked to be killed without suicide? who dies? can you describe how meth dealer works Caller?
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