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On January 02 2009 16:03 Incognito wrote:
If nevake is the zombie, mafia doc WOULD want to save him. Right now zombie gets to kill someone WHENEVER they want to, which could mean when we know for sure who the mafia are.
Unscrupulous Doc-can protect one mafia from a night attack from Boondock Saint or Jack. Cannot protect against Meth dealer-in fact, he dies if protecting someone going to meth dealer. You are also limited to 5 uses before the AMA gets on your ass.
only protect mafia
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On January 02 2009 16:06 JL13 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2009 14:17 mikeymoo wrote:
Oh sick zombies can make kills whenever? That's pretty tight.
I'm going to come out and say this now: I was targeted last night.
Here's the clue I got:
"Something shrieked above your head and left holes in the curtains. But there was nothing else to be seen."
Mafia pretty much knew I was blue, so this isn't surprising. Okay, I think this is the strongest clue I've seen next to the one I have on JeeJee? Something shrieked above your head -> HawkWell... hawks fly above their prey and swoop silently to kill. Hawks also have loud shrieks.
but they also left holes in the curtains
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couple of things about wu tang.
I'm assuming the GD's codename is RZA since he is the founder of the wu tang.
Ghostface also goes by Tony Stark(Ironman)
should probably look at the 36 chambers album since that's the first major one they put together
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On January 03 2009 03:30 mikeymoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2009 22:31 LucasWoJ wrote:
BUT you completely ignore the fact that I had no idea of your and amber roles until like 20 minutes, a time which I was AFK (ask mikeymoo once again), before the night post. And why would I target a zombie when I know the identity of the other jack, a detective, both vote riggers, etc? It just doesn't make any sense. Mikeymoo found out about your claimed role almost at the same time that I did. Since scaramanga didn't PM me outside of that, mikeymoo was in as much indirect contact with him as I was in direct contact. Again, you're not thinking nevake. I will vouch for the first statement. Lucas told me he was afk. He could have still been here, mind you, but that's what he told me and he has no site activity for that amount of time. About the current situation: 1. Lynch Lucas - Lucas flips red, reveals no alignment about nevake, but seems reasonable he is what he claims to be. He let the mafia do the dirty work on him. - Lucas flips blue, again, simply reveals nevake is wrong- reveals no alignment. Lucas has been claiming green, fwiw. - Lucas flips green, same as blue. 2. Lynch nevake - nevake flips red, no info about Lucas, however he is more likely to be green. - nevake flips blue, one more kill against mafia later when we need it, shows that his intentions are true, but again, there are logical flaws in his argument, so no info, really. - nevake flips green, hmm... I'm just going to rule this out. I don't know why nevake would be green. Neither lynch does us any good. I would suggest that anybody who contacted nevake or Lucas (NOT YOU OCZEC) contact me and give me names of who else you contacted. I think I've proven I'm clean- there's a hit on me, and my behaviour from day one should hold quite a bit of water. If there is a leak, we will find it. As for clue analysis, I don't think we have anything solid to go off of, but keep digging. So, are there any alternatives to lynch? Certainly. Maybe Latham, again. Ver hasn't spoken up (I think he said he'd be away), so maybe we should run with this one. I don't think there's any merit to lynching Lucas or nevake just yet. We need some more information. Other roles, could you send them to me? Even if you're townie? Mafia can tell me too, if they want. It might be nice to have a directory going on. I won't leak the information to anybody- I will just funnel it back and forth between all of you. Again, the fact that I was targeted, and the way I defended one day one should be enough proof, yes?
i still think that random townies shouldn't be put on the chopping block. every lynch we get should be a useful one against mafia but it's there's really nothing better than i think it should be used on 0c just cause I think he's village idiot too/gets his posts out of the way instead of potential innocents like latham
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also, seeing as how there's only been five kill attempts, the KP of mafia should be at 5 with the death of the two suicide bombers (meaning 8 mafia right now) so KP should be 4 tonight. With the moles being introduced tonight though, depending on the number of moles, it will jump back up. So we need to hit correctly to keep KP down. Also there's the silencer so we'll have to see about that.
this game the mafia is pretty stacked since we have no idea how much KP they have/ability to increase KP but i'm sure it's balanced so i don't think we should gg and say we lost just yet.
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On January 03 2009 04:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
One thing that's bugging me: how do the mafia send in their hits to Caller? If it's anything like past games here, and I'm assuming it is, they just send in the hitlist at once and those players die. SO why was the suicide bomber sent to Camlito, the meth dealer? If they just sent in a list of players, that means Caller picked the suicide bomber to die at the meth dealer's house instead of a plain mafia. I don't think Caller would do this; it would be very unfair. So this means the suicide bomber was sent to meth dealer's house specifically. Mafia would never do this unless they are suicidal (lolz) this game. So I am thinking that in the leak Camlito may have been represented as some other key role, and mafia believed he would be protected...It's the only way I can figure this makes sense.
then what happens if a meth dealer was picked to be killed without suicide? who dies? can you describe how meth dealer works Caller?
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then what happens if a meth dealer was picked to be killed without suicide? who dies? can you describe how meth dealer works Caller?
above post transferred over to new page so question doesn't get passed over
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On January 03 2009 05:25 Incognito wrote:
What happens if the mafia didn't send in who hit who? Would it then be random?
i think caller would just pm them telling them to send one and not post day post till they do
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On January 03 2009 05:33 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
so i think the major discrepancy is this:
Both nevake and LucasWoj say they knew Camlito was meth dealer. Mafia sent their suicide bomber to kill the meth dealer. We know there is a leak in the circle of players of Scaramanga, Amber[LighT], nevake, LucasWoj, and Camlito. It is possible there were other players in contact that haven't been named by anyone yet. Here are the ways i see this is possible:
1. Camlito's role was miscommunicated through the leak. Suicide bomber sent b/c mafia thought Cam was something else. Possible, but would be a pretty big mistake.
2. Camlito was an unlucky guess and just happened to be hit by the suicide bomber; mafia did not know whether he was blue but thought it would be a good idea to kill him. I do not think this is probable.
3. Either lucas or nevake is lying about knowing Cam's role, or about who knew it. The liar is most likely red. Definitely possible.
i think in the end though, they just didn't know cam was meth dealer. bomber is only good to kill medics and so if they knew cam was meth dealer, they would figure there would be no medics on him.
so in the end, it doesn't matter if they bombed him or not cause either way it would be a bad move for them. so this leak is the only lead we have right now so let's try to follow it some more. also, the clues, the lyrics in conjunction with mm's clue should be looked at.
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raekwon is also known as chef but since BC is gone...
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On January 03 2009 07:46 malongo wrote:
Wait a minute: if nevake is really the zombi, maybe it would be right to lynch him today. Tomorrow the godfather can recruit, and then the zombi will be a mafia zombi. Obviously the godfather will pick the blues, not the greens. The same holds to Mikeymoo: Blues dont send your role to mm. What will happen if mm is converted with the full blue list?, please blues be smart, try to analize clues.
Godfather: You appear to DTs as any role of your choice (you cannot change the role that you appear as after you PM to me). In addition, after Day 3, you may pm me the name of one person, and if they are not being watched they are inducted into mafia! (only 2 recruitments possible)
after day three, that means during night four he can recruit. by then we'll have lynched/killed nevake if we really have to.
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On January 03 2009 06:22 mikeymoo wrote:Clue analysis sent to me via PM: ok so i was listening to wu tang and i realized something, RZA (the founder, founded another group called gravediggaz) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Heros)Pinkthat's the profile of herospink that seems VERY CONNECTED also, this is a stretch but ol' dirty bastard's other nickname is dirt mcgirt and nevake has a picture of a girl with the word soil on her shirt.
nice catch, even i didn't notice this x_x doh. that good enough for you RoL?
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On January 03 2009 09:15 MidnightGladius wrote:
Okay, up and awake, now. After catching up (ouch >_>), I think we still have a decent chance in this, as long as we keep our heads and our activity.
I'm for lynching Ocz3c - due to a rather unfortunate and amusing incident, he PMed me last game to try to form a circle, but then I sent him a reply from this current game when I finally could get online. His reply was, to be fair, nonexistent. A mite embarrassing for me once I figured it out, but it could use some follow-up.
is 0c even here? i thought he wasn't posting for a few days?
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On January 03 2009 10:08 ydg wrote:
i don't think it's a good connection; "Double clue: In addition to your other abilities, you may ask me for an extra clue about one mafia per day, starting day 2, when they receive codenames."
ie; the wu-tang clan are just their codenames.
last game (BC's game, the codename were used as clues.) so maybe it's the same here? don't know, lets see what everyone says
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On January 03 2009 10:15 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2009 10:14 chaoser wrote:On January 03 2009 10:08 ydg wrote:
i don't think it's a good connection; "Double clue: In addition to your other abilities, you may ask me for an extra clue about one mafia per day, starting day 2, when they receive codenames."
ie; the wu-tang clan are just their codenames. last game (BC's game, the codename were used as clues.) so maybe it's the same here? don't know, lets see what everyone says i find this statement so ironic ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
why is it ironic? i meant at the end of the game when they were revealed
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On January 03 2009 10:29 nevake wrote:
In BC's game the names were never actually used as clues. They were just names. People read too deep into them.
ohhhh, got it
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guess we shouldn't vote for heros)pink then
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On January 02 2009 14:17 mikeymoo wrote:
Oh sick zombies can make kills whenever? That's pretty tight.
I'm going to come out and say this now: I was targeted last night.
Here's the clue I got:
"Something shrieked above your head and left holes in the curtains. But there was nothing else to be seen."
Mafia pretty much knew I was blue, so this isn't surprising.
lets go back to working on that
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or the nevake/lucas thing
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On January 03 2009 12:51 nevake wrote:
I would rather lynch Lucas. If you guys had talked to Scara you would have lynched Lucas after all 3 of those died without hesitating at all =/. So who are we killing, Heros)Pink or LucasWoj, I will vote for the town's plan.
i'll pick lucas i guess since caller said he didn't pick names on purpose so that's a hint that we were wrong. clearly this game became unbalanced/very hard for town to win and caller needed to give us help.
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nice, one more mafia dead and only townies dead
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