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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
December 31 2008 04:02 GMT
#201
oh snap!
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
December 31 2008 04:02 GMT
#202
i got it a 11:11 !! tha numbers!
:)
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 31 2008 04:02 GMT
#203
ok BC just blew his rouse. He can't be a DT. nice way trying to discredit me there buddy but it wont work.

Lynch BC. And me defending mikey moo doesn't imply there is a connection between us. I'm defending him on the basis that you're a lying sac of shit. Nice trying to analyze my playstyle but you still failed. I never use skewed logic, as your impending death is about to reveal.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
December 31 2008 04:02 GMT
#204
On December 31 2008 13:02 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
i got it a 11:11 !! tha numbers!


make a wish
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
December 31 2008 04:07 GMT
#205
On December 31 2008 12:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 12:45 Mynock wrote:
BC, I'm curious to hear what you perceive me as now. Of course it will probably be irrelevant once you flip VI and get your picture, but I'd still like to hear it.


Really haven't bother analyzing your previous gameplay. Your bandwagoning with ace, much like normal. But most people view him as a saint so i wont hold that against you.

Show nested quote +
Ace United States. December 31 2008 12:35.
you can't ever compare my playstyles in games to one another. I play different behind and the scenes than when I'm in public. So anything you try to do will be useless, especially since I play as a helpful townie even when I'm mafia.


What are you smoking?

Everytime your red you argue publically against being lynched(anyone would) but when you get called out you use skewed logic to favour yourself and then you drop down to saying how someone who was blue wouldnt play the DT role like that, then when you die you post some random curses or other bs. Behind the scenes you play the innocent townie to get intertwined and screw the town, as any intelligent mafia would.

Its when you get called out your gameplay shifts. When your townie you rally to be the town voice, then treat anyone not blue or who agrees with you like trash so no, its a pretty accurate way to guide someone game by game.

You may have more experience with the game, but that doesn't make everyone in it sheep who have to play the way you think they should.

Stop ralleying behind your mafia buddy and let him die, at least this time you didnt get rolecalled first.


Edit: added in a end quote tag.


You know what's funny tho? Every time I was rallied behind Ace is when both him and me were Town (we were only once Mafia together, last game, and yeah, you could see how that played out). I dunno, but from my point of view it says something about my perception rather than just blunt stabs and bandwagoning, don't you think?

Finally, whatever I say will always be based on the most solid logic known to me, rather than anything else. If I am Mafia I never feel the need to withhold sound advice from Town, as that's not in mí best interest either (because it would differ from my "usual" style). That is because I'm confident I can always gain Town's trust, and that is because NO MATTER what role I am, I will play it like a Townie, so it will be in Towns interest to listen to what I say.

Ad I can tell you this:

1) the VI has not identified himself yet.
2) You played your role extremely bluntly and based on very vague logic (how can you assume only 1 DT is insane? Yes I read your post, I just think it's completely unsound) if you really are a DT.
3) The best way for a DT to play is gather info until he can find a confirmed blue and then provide it all to the inner link. That, or use a mouthpiece as a minimum.

I put you on a VI, and want to tell youo that even if you get what you want, using the same strat as RoL did last time is pretty lame.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 31 2008 04:07 GMT
#206
On December 31 2008 13:02 Ace wrote:
ok BC just blew his rouse. He can't be a DT. nice way trying to discredit me there buddy but it wont work.

Lynch BC. And me defending mikey moo doesn't imply there is a connection between us. I'm defending him on the basis that you're a lying sac of shit. Nice trying to analyze my playstyle but you still failed. I never use skewed logic, as your impending death is about to reveal.


how did he blow his "rouse"? you mean ruse? and if he did, how?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 31 2008 04:08 GMT
#207
On December 31 2008 13:07 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 13:02 Ace wrote:
ok BC just blew his rouse. He can't be a DT. nice way trying to discredit me there buddy but it wont work.

Lynch BC. And me defending mikey moo doesn't imply there is a connection between us. I'm defending him on the basis that you're a lying sac of shit. Nice trying to analyze my playstyle but you still failed. I never use skewed logic, as your impending death is about to reveal.


how did he blow his "rouse"? you mean ruse? and if he did, how?


by performing oral sex on a chinese hair-attacking insect
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
December 31 2008 04:08 GMT
#208
On December 31 2008 13:02 Ace wrote:
ok BC just blew his rouse. He can't be a DT. nice way trying to discredit me there buddy but it wont work.

Lynch BC. And me defending mikey moo doesn't imply there is a connection between us. I'm defending him on the basis that you're a lying sac of shit. Nice trying to analyze my playstyle but you still failed. I never use skewed logic, as your impending death is about to reveal.



You did use skewed logic. In a game where as a DT i could be insane, more information is gained from the accused death than the accuser. With my death nothin is certain at all about the accused but my blue role.

You seem to forget that.

As for analyzing your playstyle, thats a general rundown of it and you know it.

Regardless, it comes down to the choice of the town to believe two players who both have claimed blue, one openly to help the town, the other to help himself.

Lynch me and a blue dies tonight,
Lynch mikey and a green/red dies. pretty simple
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
December 31 2008 04:08 GMT
#209
caller how long to the end of voting?
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 31 2008 04:09 GMT
#210
On December 31 2008 12:55 LTT wrote:
That would be a terrible idea. 53 consectuive posts...

I think 1.Amber[light] is the VI.
I think 2.Nevake is the VI.
I think 3.Nemy is the VI.
I think 4.Mikeymoo is the VI.
I think 5.Tensai176 is the VI.
etc.


eh add in a clause that we get 2 guesses then the VI wins or something
OMG you nasty gurl
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 31 2008 04:09 GMT
#211
On December 31 2008 13:08 malongo wrote:
caller how long to the end of voting?

10 hours but i'm tempted to cut it to 1
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
December 31 2008 04:10 GMT
#212
lynch BC today, 0cz3c tomorrow
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
December 31 2008 04:11 GMT
#213
Don't give the VI what he wants. Caller don't do that.

10 hours.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 31 2008 04:11 GMT
#214
If you die and flip blue, we know mikey moo was lying about being blue genius.

Man it's so easy to catch you guys in flawed logic.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
December 31 2008 04:15 GMT
#215
On December 31 2008 13:07 Mynock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 12:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On December 31 2008 12:45 Mynock wrote:
BC, I'm curious to hear what you perceive me as now. Of course it will probably be irrelevant once you flip VI and get your picture, but I'd still like to hear it.


Really haven't bother analyzing your previous gameplay. Your bandwagoning with ace, much like normal. But most people view him as a saint so i wont hold that against you.

Ace United States. December 31 2008 12:35.
you can't ever compare my playstyles in games to one another. I play different behind and the scenes than when I'm in public. So anything you try to do will be useless, especially since I play as a helpful townie even when I'm mafia.


What are you smoking?

Everytime your red you argue publically against being lynched(anyone would) but when you get called out you use skewed logic to favour yourself and then you drop down to saying how someone who was blue wouldnt play the DT role like that, then when you die you post some random curses or other bs. Behind the scenes you play the innocent townie to get intertwined and screw the town, as any intelligent mafia would.

Its when you get called out your gameplay shifts. When your townie you rally to be the town voice, then treat anyone not blue or who agrees with you like trash so no, its a pretty accurate way to guide someone game by game.

You may have more experience with the game, but that doesn't make everyone in it sheep who have to play the way you think they should.

Stop ralleying behind your mafia buddy and let him die, at least this time you didnt get rolecalled first.


Edit: added in a end quote tag.


You know what's funny tho? Every time I was rallied behind Ace is when both him and me were Town (we were only once Mafia together, last game, and yeah, you could see how that played out). I dunno, but from my point of view it says something about my perception rather than just blunt stabs and bandwagoning, don't you think?

Finally, whatever I say will always be based on the most solid logic known to me, rather than anything else. If I am Mafia I never feel the need to withhold sound advice from Town, as that's not in mí best interest either (because it would differ from my "usual" style). That is because I'm confident I can always gain Town's trust, and that is because NO MATTER what role I am, I will play it like a Townie, so it will be in Towns interest to listen to what I say.

Ad I can tell you this:

1) the VI has not identified himself yet.
2) You played your role extremely bluntly and based on very vague logic (how can you assume only 1 DT is insane? Yes I read your post, I just think it's completely unsound) if you really are a DT.
3) The best way for a DT to play is gather info until he can find a confirmed blue and then provide it all to the inner link. That, or use a mouthpiece as a minimum.

I put you on a VI, and want to tell youo that even if you get what you want, using the same strat as RoL did last time is pretty lame.


Unlike last game the VI has no reason to identify himself? Hes a green whos job is to die, thats about it.

As for best way to play a dt? you have a mole, gf who can convert people into mafia and appear as someone who is blue,a mafia that only has a codename and no clues pointed at them, then most likely 1 insane dt. If the DT's can't verify their sanity quickly, mafia will certaintly win.

I will agree with you that Had i been another blue role, green again or mafia, easiest way is to sit behind the scenes. DT's dont have as much leeway with that this game as they might not be reliable. Town is at a supreme disadvantage until the dt's can be sure of theirselves.

and lastly to again answer the 1 DT insane, To create a balanced mafia game, having more than 3-4 DT's makes it unbalanced (specially with 3 rolechecks) Having even more of them insane further imbalances it as dt's become pretty useless unless they waste abilities on it.

So yes a large part of me playing The dt as i am, is based on caller not making a completely one sided game.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
December 31 2008 04:16 GMT
#216
On December 31 2008 13:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 13:02 Ace wrote:
ok BC just blew his rouse. He can't be a DT. nice way trying to discredit me there buddy but it wont work.

Lynch BC. And me defending mikey moo doesn't imply there is a connection between us. I'm defending him on the basis that you're a lying sac of shit. Nice trying to analyze my playstyle but you still failed. I never use skewed logic, as your impending death is about to reveal.



You did use skewed logic. In a game where as a DT i could be insane, more information is gained from the accused death than the accuser. With my death nothin is certain at all about the accused but my blue role.

You seem to forget that.

As for analyzing your playstyle, thats a general rundown of it and you know it.

Regardless, it comes down to the choice of the town to believe two players who both have claimed blue, one openly to help the town, the other to help himself.

Lynch me and a blue dies tonight,
Lynch mikey and a green/red dies. pretty simple


Except mikey is saying he's blue, which paints you as mafia/village idiot. We have as much reason to believe him as you?
Their are four errors in this sentance.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 31 2008 04:24 GMT
#217
On December 31 2008 13:16 Bockit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2008 13:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On December 31 2008 13:02 Ace wrote:
ok BC just blew his rouse. He can't be a DT. nice way trying to discredit me there buddy but it wont work.

Lynch BC. And me defending mikey moo doesn't imply there is a connection between us. I'm defending him on the basis that you're a lying sac of shit. Nice trying to analyze my playstyle but you still failed. I never use skewed logic, as your impending death is about to reveal.



You did use skewed logic. In a game where as a DT i could be insane, more information is gained from the accused death than the accuser. With my death nothin is certain at all about the accused but my blue role.

You seem to forget that.

As for analyzing your playstyle, thats a general rundown of it and you know it.

Regardless, it comes down to the choice of the town to believe two players who both have claimed blue, one openly to help the town, the other to help himself.

Lynch me and a blue dies tonight,
Lynch mikey and a green/red dies. pretty simple


Except mikey is saying he's blue, which paints you as mafia/village idiot. We have as much reason to believe him as you?



but numbers got run and even if they are a little off, i'm willing to take the chance and lynch mm. atleast BC roleclaimed while mm just said he was blue
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
December 31 2008 04:28 GMT
#218
Wait so if I suddenly accused you of being red, and you had a blue role you would just say 'no I'm a <rolename>' giving it to mafia?
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
December 31 2008 04:29 GMT
#219
Um wow they cut out my example, it's meant to say

'no I'm a &lt;rolename&gt;'
Their are four errors in this sentance.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
December 31 2008 04:31 GMT
#220
On December 31 2008 13:28 Bockit wrote:
Wait so if I suddenly accused you of being red, and you had a blue role you would just say 'no I'm a <rolename>' giving it to mafia?


All he did was roleclaim the one thing a DT would pick up, He came up red, making him a liar in my books.
If you had someone roleclaim you red knowing that the only other role they could have pegged you for is green(due to insane dt), and you were red, you would roleclaim you were blue to protect yourself.

If we had legit dt's he would claim green. By claiming blue all he did was try to dodge first lynch and save his red self.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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