EPT[GG] Team Liquid Mafia - Resurrection
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To begin this act of unity, to start off the beginning of the end for the mafia, to incite the town to victory, I will succinctly yet definitively clear any suspicions I, my actions, or my name may have stirred into the minds of any man. My username on TeamLiquid, 0cz3c, is really "Oczec"; however, on the grounds that "0" and "3" are cooler than "O" and "E," I chose 0cz3c to be my user ID. Oczec is merely a fictitious character. Yes, it is winter. Yes, in the places where we live, in the houses where we sleep, and in the woods where we hang those stained with the red letter M, it is winter. And winter seems to us to be a time of darkness and a time of death. But I tell you my fellow townies that a spring shall come to us. I tell you that victory will approach us, the innocent and the humble. Everything seems to be dying or to have already died in the winter. Everything. But something stays alive. Trees. Evergreen trees. And I myself am one of those trees. A green, innocent tree. A tree that, although surrounded by death, is also surrounded by other living, thriving, and blossoming green trees. I ask, I beseech, I urge these green townies, of which I myself am part of, to help illuminate those beneath them (i.e. below the trees), the startled, chaotic, and worried town, but also to shield the town from the setting, murky, dangerous, and red sunset. I think I've thrown away suspicions from me. I hope. I was right the last game in my suspicions, so I warn the mafia now: I will find you, wherever you may be; wherever you may hide, I will scour the woods and I will find and I will destroy the mafia. | ||
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However, I must warn any special roles that are blue, not red. Scaramanga is telling you, if this checks out, to PM your role to Ace. But the mafia all know their roles, so what is it to Ace to sacrifice one of his mafia in order to gain the knowledge of all the ranks and roles of our town? Be careful, for certain birdies live in our protected canopy, flying only to take notice of any advancing murderers, but others are vultures, preying on our deaths, living above our canopy, and descending down into our daytime paradise to feed on the defenseless. With all these accusations concerning those who appear to have red blood flowing through their veins, I find this to be the most opportune moment to inform my town that I am indeed an innocent, green townie. I am no mafia; no, in fact I have no special roles. I am just a green, innocent townie. But a green townie is a loyal and pure citizen, untainted by such thieves of life who, at this very moment, must be plotting heinous crimes against our good-natured village. And even though I myself cannot look into the clouds above, even though I myself cannot see the setting sunset, and even though I have no blue glow emerging out from me in the night, I declare to the town that I am and will be doing all I that I can to discern who is mafia, and I make open to all the mafia, wherever you may be, that I will find you, and, by Christmastime, blues and greens alike will be able to celebrate a peaceful, joyful, and living Christmas with the knowledge that not one stained by the tainted thoughts of crime and rebellion lives among them. | ||
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Please do not kill me this night. I have no important or special role in this game. I have no reason to lie; I am but a mere green townie. Please do not kill me. I repeat that I have no special roles. It would be much more beneficial for you to focus on killing practically anyone BUT me, for you already are all aware of the fact that I am indeed a plain, green townie. If you do decide to kill me, then, I tell you, beware. For the town is surrounded by a sea of green, and above it, in harmony with the green, is a sky of blue. How much longer will you attempt your madness on us, traitors of the town? How much longer will you drive on towards our ruin? You cannot pursue us relentlessly. You will not win. The town, both the leaders and the loyal followers, sees right through you. And yet you barge right into this town, all of you, and, with your eyes, you designate us towards our death. I will not stand for this! No, no, I say, the town, the innocent, and the special roles, which I repeat to those plotting to kill me I AM NOT A PART OF, will not stand for this. We ought not to worry that the matter was done with too harsh cruelty but that the punishment, your swift death, has been exacted upon you too slowly. Flee now, the town tells you. For we have been rid of a great fear with a canopy, a walls of sorts, separating citizen from criminal, man from beast. | ||
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I've already told everyone my role. I'm not entirely sure why, almost out of nowhere, I'm being accused of being part of the nefarious conspiracy. Perhaps, in telling the mafia that dooms awaits them, I left out words of encouragement and congratulation to the town. If I have left you out from my conversation, fellow townies and necessary blue roles, I apologize. I was in fault. This is an address to the town: One down, nine to go. Let's get them. The mafia together is strong, certainly not as strong as a unified town, but strong nonetheless. Separated, they are cowards. Together, they can try to overcome a unified town; scattered, they worry about their own skin, and their will not try to do anything. We have already done much to scatter the mafia, but there is still much to be done. I assure my fellow green townies that I, as a loyal, green, and plain townie will assist as much as possible in discovering the culprits on this circulating conspiracy. Innocents, we are like the plains of Africa. We are plain, we are pure, we are plenty, we are succulent and necessary to the survival of benevolent blue creatures, but most importantly, we are green. To establish myself as an innocent, green townie, I will, from now on, only write in the green font while in this topic. I think that that will prove that I cannot be any other role than a green townie. | ||
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On December 17 2008 07:48 chaoser wrote: also, martyr, please protect ace tonight This is an address to the martyr. Martyr, you know who you are. Please protect Ace tonight. I, on the other hand, cannot be of the same benefit to the town. For, you see, I am but a green townie. And I do not understand why I'm being accused. Stop it. Cut it. Slice it. Eat it. I challenge all my accusers in this thread to look but once at any of the clues put forth by BloodyCobbler. Although you may find references to a stargate and although you will find unbearable grammatical and punctuational mistakes, I challenge you to find any legitimate clues that link back to me. You obviously won't find any, for I'm not mafia. I'm only a green, innocent townie. How can I prove it? I already have. Refer back to my previous posts for absolute proof. Fellow townies, are there any among you who suspect me of being mafia? Because I only see hounds and murderous dogs accusing me. Is there any townie, whether green or blue who suspects me? Green is the color of money. My username has several numbers. Money is counted by numbers. Therefore, the transitive property makes clear beyond any suspected doubt that I am indeed a green townie. Please change your votes in the lynching thread away from me to someone more susceptible to fall to the life of crime. I warned the mafia before, and I will warn them again. You made a wise choice in not killing me last night. To the townies, I say once more: they have cowered. They, in utter fear of discovery, did not kill me. The cowards. We are closer to victory than before, and I promise that, with my concealed guidance, we will achieve absolute victory! | ||
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Please don't waste any vigilante kills on me. I hate that I'm saying this, but you guys are idiots. Then again...anyone else? I apologize for the brevity of this post. | ||
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Nevertheless, the second SS is very convincing (although contrary to capek's intentions, lol). | ||
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If you were to choose a list of 8 remaining mafia, who would you choose? You seem to have been in a group of players, so I'm assuming/hoping that you can inconspicuously use that to help the town. Can someone inform me why there are so many votes for AttackZerg in the voting thread? I thought he was a paramedic... | ||
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It is my opinion that truthbringer has been mixing reason with rationalizations, the objective with the subjective. And it's have a deleterious effect on the town! Truth, by necessity, must be objective, yet all I see from him is opinion. And a personal feud. Though this game I have done nothing but go out of my way to provide the truth to the green townies. I, objectively proclaimed the truth that I, indeed, am a townie. I try so hard with my posts, I try so long to make everyone happy, I've re-read the clues at least a dozen time, and I did this all to motivate, encourage, and win with the town. And this is what I get from TruthBringer, a person who falsely and pretentiously pretends to bring the truth to the town. I'm...I'm...I'm deeply offended! | ||
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That something is down? That something is ghotie? That there's an avalanche descending upon the ever-ascending mountain of snow? That it's ... winter? That they're ... MAFIA? (I don't know, I'm just asking on your opinion concerning this outrageous debacle). | ||
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How articulate you are, might I add. | ||
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Much better. I was asked to do some clue analysis earlier. From all the clues (I'd rather not copy and paste, it's far too long), I've reached the conclusion that I am not hinted at. This leads me to believe that I indeed am not mafia. That's relieving. This looks fun; I'll do some more clue analysis tomorrow! edit = replaced "so" with "do" | ||
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On December 19 2008 14:23 Vivi57 wrote: 0z, you'd better wait another day before you decide you aren't mafia. One of the clues tomorrow might point to you. Don't pm yourself your role just in case. Good point, Vivi57. I think I'll do that. Can never be too cautious in these situations. | ||
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Day 1 = "sunset"; "the lights died" Day 2 = "a ray of light arcing from his chest" Day 3 = ""sun was down"; "flipped a light switch" I would say that, by necessity, lights would be mentioned in any day post, but the day 2 reference is almost begging us to wonder why not. Sure the sun sets when night approaches and light go off when someone sets himself up for a murder, but what else can a ray of light coming out from a dead body's chest insinuate? I'd like Amber[light] to defend himself. Also, please name seven (7) people whom you think are in mafia. | ||
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The sun's really big. It can shine on more than one person! | ||
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Furthermore, you say this after you post. This implies that you did not think about what you said before, or that you did not really read through my accusations. Nextly, you called me stupid. You were attempting to ridicule my analysis (which I admit it laughable), but now you've gone completely into the irrational. It's incredibly mafia-like. You came into this thread to convince everyone else that you're not mafia, only because I said you were. And you did it in a way that is typical of a mafia. I'll be voting to lynch you next round. I'm more than convinced by your behavior that you're part of the killers of the town. Also, I hope you realize that BloodyCobbler did this randomly. And he couldn't have expected that I would be posting this way. That way of thinking is illogical and irrational. It's also incredibly stupid. And you are not stupid. No, you just didn't think. And you have to think about what you post, because you know who is who. Because you need to stay alive. Because you're mafia. | ||
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Behavioral analysis is legitimate. I posted that. I'm sorry if it's below you. You pointed this out before, but I only spoke when I WASN'T accused. Do you really have no memory? Or are you attempting to manipulate this situation so that mafia might win? Why would I want to save myself? As a green townie, I hope to get killed by mafia. It gives the blues another round. Of course, some of the blues have been off (to put it delicately) this game, and they decided it best to send their roles to someone they should not have trusted. You're calling me an idiot yet I'm not dead. I have neither been lynched during the day nor murdered at night. I have no need to defend myself. No one in their right mind could possibly mistake me for a mafia or a silencer. By the way, nevake, I'd appreciate it if you decide to read posts. That's always nice. I do. Read the one above your post. If my eyes are not deceiving me, then I write, "attempting to ridicule my analysis (which I admit it laughable)." You see that right? RIGHT? RIGHT? I hope I'm not wrong. Hopefully I actually wrote that. I'm telling you that I acknowldege that my light clues are weak. That wasn't the point of my analysis. Firstly, I hoped that it would show everyone the quality of clue analysis thus far. And secondly I wanted to see Amber[Light]'s behavior after my post. His response was incriminating, or stupid. And your behavior now is incriminating, or, once again, stupid. When my posts look stupid, there's a purpose to them. It's not because I'm stupid. Oftentimes it's to keep myself entertained. I sometimes want to see how people react to my posts, and make personal observations from that. Usually not. But I wish that this helmet could be surgically removed from my head. It's heavy, and my brainy is empty. Haha, a rhyme. | ||
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To: Vivi57 Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 12/20/08 08:57 By the way, do you think I should stick with the blue coloring? It seems that the town trusted me more when I wrote in green. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Very convincing ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I'm not in mafia. To: Vivi57 Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 12/20/08 09:02 I'm sorry for sending a third e-mail, but a thought just occurred to me. Find something in the clues that link back to me. Please. The fact that you're posting that I'm a mafia only aids the town in incriminating you later on. There's absolutely nothing except either stupid townies or plotting mafia saying that I am a mafia. Look at nevake. He's saying that I have produced no evidence. He just repudiated my analysis on the guy's behavior. Then he decides to analyze mine. He offered no analysis from the clues about me being mafia. The guy's a hypocrite. He's also a stupid townie or a mafia. It's really just an either or in their situation. OBVIOUSLY mafia WILL NOT kill me because of the way I'm acting now. I take that for granted. It would be stupid of them to kill me. Of course, you could very well be mafia. Doesn't matter that I'm telling you this, though. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Very convincing ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I'm not in mafia. To: Vivi57 Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 12/20/08 09:03 I think that's the color that I'll choose if the game is still up by Christmas Eve. Red represents love, and I love the town. It also represents blood, and in Hebrew culture, blood symbolize life. Therefore, it would be appropriate in that I would be expressing my love for life. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: You should go for a more appropriate color, say red. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: By the way, do you think I should stick with the blue coloring? It seems that the town trusted me more when I wrote in green. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Very convincing ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I'm not in mafia. To: Amber[LighT] Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 12/20/08 08:27 Did you enjoy those posts more? Did they suit the mafia plan to a greater degree? I'll think about it. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: recheck your clues a mafia cant kill another mafia. You should go back to posting about how you're green ----------------------------------------- Original Message: It wasn't a guess. I was simply following the clues ! ----------------------------------------- Original Message: lol good guess faggot ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I got one ! Have fun in Hades, where there is no light to look upon! To: AttackZerg Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 12/20/08 05:35 You never let me use some of the low-brow material I had prepared for you. At least I'm smart enough to still be alive!!! ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Dude I'm so fucking obviously mafia. I am only denying it after I posted that I was . I was just having fun before I went. I'm mafia bro. Later, AttackZerg ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Ouch. If I'm a townie and you're a self-proclaimed townie, then why not make a friend of me? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Go away, your just a bored townie who isn't smart enough to dig up clues and make friends. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Well, I will soon command a Roman legion. Caesar's top lieutenant was Labienus. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Sorry the mafia is safe from you ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I just wanted to stress the fact that this conversation is personal. It's just between the two of us. Only us and no one else. I want to INFILTRATE your NETWORK, if you catch my drift. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: pm = personal msg, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT? Is that clear enough? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: 'msg' you what? I PM'd you. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Why msg me? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yes. Yes, I am. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yes you are. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I'm not a townie. To: Scaramanga Subject: Re: Mafia Date: 12/19/08 13:11 "Did David slay Goliath?" He obviously did. Your icon is a goliath. Let's say that I'm the David. The other PM was meant to, in effect, prove how words are misinterpreted. I took the "a" and "I" out of David and Goliath. Pretty clever, right ??? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: fuck off ----------------------------------------- Original Message: A DVD, I GOLTH ----------------------------------------- Original Message: what? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: David slayed Goliath? | ||
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On December 20 2008 09:31 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: Why would they even PM that? That's stupid. There's no way anyone would PM something so stpud So are you saying that he photo-shopped that PM? Because he didn't. Why would you even say that...unless... | ||
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From what I gathered in the Day 1 post, there is a clear link to the dark templar. BC "jumped back as a hand reached for him from the darkness, then fired at where the hand had come from, only to hear the bullet slam into a wall." If that's not evidence enough, the sentence right after states that "figures in black cloaks and hoods were all around." The DT is invisible because of a cloak. Then again, the same holds true for wraiths and ghosts. I don't know to whom I can attribute this clue. I'd like to ask for some help for fellow townies on this. I have this written down, but I can't seem to find from what profile it came from: "Visualize success, but don't believe your eyes." There are inconspicuous references to eyes (glaring, etc.). This can also go back to the DT reference, although that would be more than pushing it. In the first Day post, BC learns, "who was responsible for this crime." zeks profile suggests a similarity of phrasing, for it says, "With great power comes great responsibility." Granted this is weak, but I wonder where zeks has gone in the thread. I know he was the first to bring up again the stargate references. Capek pressed those references (i.e. he attempted to make clear their validity). Capek was mafia. Zeks, I think, was one who posted that he liked my posts. Whenever someone says that, I had to grow suspicious, especially since they added nothing useful to the town. Still, take this analysis with a grain of salt. Meegrean's signature says, "my scourge got scourged." There is certainly a reference to essentially getting beaten up in the Day 2 post. Obviously the word scourge is the same word as the word "scourge." Mafia is the same word as mafia. In the Day 2 post, two mafia are fighting with each other. "Camulous backed into a corner which Chronus about to deliver the final blow. Camulous’ eyes went from fear to contempt however, and surged forward past Chronus and slamming into Heros)pink, then quickly slicing his throat." Camulous, in essence, is the scourge about to get scourged (rather, killed). This again is fairly weak. I'm not sure if this is of any use to anyone, and, since I skipped the majority of clue analyses from before (since they just obsessed over the picture), I don't know if any of it has been mentioned before. No one has been doing sufficient clue analysis. Please help ! | ||
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This is what I could find in the Day 4 post. BC says in the his opening lines that "fear and darkness felt upon the town." This suggests that perhaps a shadow is engulfing the town. Of course, Shadowdrgn's name has the word SHADOW in it. I think we need to revisit that clue, because BC says, "once again." It could be a repetition of clues, or it could just have NO useful clues, so we have to be careful. Caller..."heard a roar above him." Um. Yeah. That almost speaks for itself. Isn't this something that a dragon would like doing? Roaring a little? Then immediately after, Kali, "swooped down, slamming into Caller, and smashing his face to the ground, crushing his skull." "Swoop down" tells us that he did not run. It almost seems like he flew down. Dragons can fly. And they're also described in medieval mythology as swooping down to attack. That's almost exactly what's happening here. I just woke up, so this is what I saw out-of-place in his descriptions at first glance. I'll post more of my thoughts after I eat breakfast. Just so everyone knows, there was a reason I was posting retarded posts before. I'll explain once the game comes to a close and we, green and blue townies, win this game. I'm afraid to post the reason now, though. Please, just trust me that I'm not a mafia, and look back for any figurative language I used early on (it will explain, to the very critical reader, why). | ||
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I found one other person to whom we can contribute the shadow clues, and that person is more_minerals. His photo is all about lastshadow. It's a hole, but, if Scaramanga is telling the truth, then more_minerals is a townie. The supposed DT references can also lead back to the shadow. In the instance where BC shoots at a hand he sees, he hits a wall. Probably because he's aiming at the shadow of a hand. Furthermore, Camulous in Day 2, "flies out in front of him [him = tensai]." This adds skepticism as to whether ShadowDrgn is mafia. Also, Camulous, to my knowledge, has only killed with a knife, or, to put it in a broader, perhaps more acceptable, way, he has only killed with a melee weapon. In Day 2, he slices a throat. The rain of punches that end his life is ambiguous. They can be coming from either Chronus, or Camulous, or both. In Day 4, Camulous "drove a knife into Lakrismamma." This seems to be a recurring theme, as has been mentioned above. That makes me think that it's crucial to the identity of that person. Currently, I can only think of midnightgladius. Gladius in Latin means sword. I'd appreciate it if anyone could find a stronger match to Camulous. Although I'm convinced that ShadowDrgn is mafia, I made sure to look for flaws in my argument, for I recognized that mafia would not do it for me if Shadowdrgn were innocent and would only do it if he were mafia. In the past five hours the only activity I recognize is from the same people. This makes it much tougher to identify who is innocent and who is mafia. If you're a townie, then please contribute something. At this point it's certainly not helping (remember, you win the game if the town wins the game, and not if you're still alive at the end of it). | ||
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On December 21 2008 04:34 Scaramanga wrote: What, 0cz3z your trying to derail the thread, people just dont listen to him, he has clues then shoots them down himself Guys we've got shadow on that list and alot of clues against him, their gonna be a mafia down tonight Who am I voting for? You're telling me that if I connect any clues with a person they are right? What am I supposed to do when the clues can be wrong? You're an idiot, sorry. | ||
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We took AttackZerg off that list too prematurely...let's not make that same mistake here again. | ||
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Then you roleclaimed vig. You better hope that you're a vig, because this will come out verrrrrry shortly. If you're not a vig (I'm not suggesting anything with these comments, every one), then you're just digging yourself a deeper grave. How about you offer some clue analysis? or maybe look back what suggested and label 7 people in the thread as mafia? You have no reason not to now, unless of course, you yourself are mafia? | ||
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I can't see why the Mad Hatter ought to have any bombs on ShadowDrgn. We suspect he's mafia, right? So why not kill him? It would be much more beneficial and efficient to lynch or vigi him. The longer we let him live the longer their killing power stays up. The same goes for everyone on that DT list. That's pretty good analysis TruthBringer. I had considered him as a mafia, but the best clues I was able to decipher were insufficient (i.e. only the illusion quote). I think I'll consider him again as a suspect and wait for this upcoming day post. | ||
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Would you mind if I help you typing up your Day posts? Whenever I read through them, I saw too many grammatical mistakes. I just assumed that they were intentional (because in writing, everything ought to be intentional), but I couldn't make anything out of them. Furthermore, the mistakes with syntax took away from the reading experience, and I could barely understand what you were attempting to articulate. Sometimes you left out verbs, many times you left out prepositions, and all too often you let sentences that ought to have ended just run. I'm assuming that you would just sit at the keyboard and type (i.e. not edit). That's OK, since clues are there to be found, but an awful post serves not only as a distraction, but also as a tool for inactivity. After I read the very first post of mafia lynchings, I thought to myself, "Oh boy. I will not be able to deal with this. Let's not go inactive, though [hahahaha]." I'm not trying to bash on you, for you did an excellent job running this game and ensuring that all the day and night posts came within a desired time. The management was great. But I don't know how to put it more delicately: it just seems like you put no time into your writing (and it was a turnoff). Edit: Also, I think I can make the day posts very enjoyable to read (that is to say make them similar in word choice to my initial posts, though they will have events and actions). | ||
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