Ace's Mafia World! - Page 97

On December 07 2008 12:19 Ver wrote:
Okay listen up townies, I want you all to consider something very carefully before voting for Caller.

1) The mislynches and misvigi's (except for midnightgladius, who went rambo and disobeyed orders) were MY FAULT. The only part Caller had in this was saying ok, or in the choice of vivi, selecting him from a list of 3-4 equally likely people (since Caller did a lot of other stuff while I did behavior/target selection). Yeah, I was wrong. And note that Caller pardoned bloodycobbler, who I repeatedly told him to lynch. But nooo, you guys, without thinking, are trying to lynch a guy (caller) who had nothing to do with it because the bandwagon (Lucchese mafia) is doing that. If you want justice for the dead then lynch me. The Lucchese (who camlito and fishball are a part of) want Caller dead first, for obvious reasons (he has more power/persuasion and knowledge than me and attracts more hatred because I've been hiding out more).


2) HOWEVER. Point 1 is completely irrelevant. Take a look back at mafia 3. Ace was in a 1v1 duel with folca, who was claiming DT and saying Ace was mafia, and essentially there was no way to tell who was lying. Ace proposed a plan to kill Folca to see whether he would pop DT or mafia. However, Alventinie and others (forgot sorry; all townies), proposed that they let both people live, and lynch someone else. Why? Because one of those 2 was a known commodity, but they had no way to prove it. However, they could let the Mafia do the dirty work for them; if Folca was actually a DT, rather than wasting a lynch, the mafia would be forced to kill him. In this case, if Caller is innocent, the mafia will be forced to kill him as he wields significant power. In this case, Ace was mafia. Now the mafia are using the exact same strategy Ace did (plus a better propaganda machine). GEE I WONDER WHO'S LYING.


3) Therefore, whether Caller or I am mafia/traitor or not has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with this voting. Either Caller or Me or Camlito and Fishball are mafia; no way around it, too many randoms are voting for Caller. This is how we approached the Plexa and Camlito situation. They both behave in a way that makes it extremely difficult to discern their role through behavior. Thus, rather than go for them early and risk losing a valuable member, despite any suspicions, we let the game play out and see where it took us. Now the evidence is clearly lined up, with Camlito Godfather and Plexa innocent. No risk, full reward, neh? Another example: Caller right now thinks I'm guilty of passing information. I know I'm not, because there was enough people who died that I didn't know the roles for, but it's a fair suspicion. However, Caller is not wasting his time on me at all and going for the for sure mafia and letting me reveal myself as time goes on (or mafia kill me). In the same line of reasoning, if Caller is mafia, despite every evidence to the contrary, WE DONT NEED TO LYNCH HIM RIGHT NOW. On the other hand, we have multiple sources of evidence proving camlito and fishball's guilt (informant's list, messages, and votecheck list from a confirmed (dead) DT, bluemanrocks which Caller and I and a 3rd party received seperately. And lastly, the current voting patterns.

4) In conjunction with point 2, this vote alone is achieving something the other votes have not: bringing supposed "inactives" out of the woodwork. The Camlito family is clearly trying to muster the vote to save one of their members and kill Caller, because that will be decisive for their victory.

Here are the people voting for Caller:

The ones I didn't list may or may not be mafia.

ShadowDrgn <-- confirmed mafia (sent town a fake list of Lucchese)
t_co
Camlito <-- confirmed mafia
ecomania
Fishball <-- confirmed mafia
meegrean
HeRoS)Pink <- obvious traitor.
LaXerCannon
BuGzlToOnl

Just a little history lesson to put this in perspective: In mafia 2, nemy (innocent) and bwdero (mafia) were two subjects up for vote and due to inactivity, it was a close vote. It was tied 3 vs 3, until KF91, who had never made a single post the entire game, suddenly steps in to vote for nemy. GEE, I wonder what KF's identity was? (mafia drrrr)

Now let's see here. Economia has made exactly 2 posts this entire game; a random vote for MTF for mayor and a random vote for an assigned target in day 2 (the Lucchese spread their votes around to every candidate or did not vote in mayor election fyi). Now all of a sudden he jumps in to vote for Caller with no explanation. GEE, I wonder what this reminds me of.

In addition, look at bugzltoonl. He voted for MTF in the mayor election. However, despite being active, he has never voted in any day election (where you can be on a votelist) until now when he mysteriously votes for Caller. Hmmmmmm?

Several others, despite their dubious activity, have questionable voting as well. But this is long enough already.

5) Lastly, it's virtually proven that MTF is godfather of the Lucchese family (half his dead family voted for him to push him into the 2nd candidate position over me). MTF's family is in a desperate situation, with the enemy mafia having a significant numbers advantage as well as better information. Caller cannot be in the same family as MTF, because Caller is openly supporting the accusation that Plexa has made against MTF (of being godfather), and Caller told Plexa that in the first place lol, although Plexa found it out himself from clues anyway before he got told (because he and I knew it way before we talked to Plexa). If Caller is in the other family, then MTF should want him lynched right? But that's the thing: MTF, despite all this, SUPPORTS CALLER EVERY TIME (he knows Callers role).

There are 4 ironclad reasons against lynching Caller. The vast majority of those lynching him are either mafia or traitors. There are a few innocents there who are being deceived. You guys are the key! You must switch your votes to Camlito/Fishball!