EPTOn December 06 2008 06:21 Folca wrote:
I KILLED REBIRTH
(bitches)
I KILLED REBIRTH
(bitches)
I returned the favor.
farewell niggaz, with my last words I say trust in caller and you will prevail. I can't say anymore :/
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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I returned the favor. farewell niggaz, with my last words I say trust in caller and you will prevail. I can't say anymore :/ | ||
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Caller
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On December 06 2008 12:11 Camlito wrote: lol decaf always gets suspected. and caller i have been in touch with this thread, as you see i was trying to convince ace to continue, so me responding quick to what you said isn't a surprise.. well to me atleast. If you think killing me will give you that 1% chance, go ahead :D. I'm not going to defend my case. k good better than ur counterpart fishball there cooperating On December 06 2008 12:12 Incognito wrote: Inactivity is biased towards the mafia, not only because there's less anti-mafia voters, but also because mafia are also inactive to avoid suspicion. Town inactivity gives mafia something to hide behind. Especially when more active townies start dying. older than aol | ||
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Fishball
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On December 06 2008 12:08 Caller wrote: so what i'm dead tomorrow anyways mafia will kill me and i was rolechecked, unlike you. you had no credibility to begin with, and especially considering ur initial attitude was resignation and has now turned into a scathing shadowdrgn/fishball/camlito attack on me (yay same family) i unno i unno. town is screwed without a double lucheese lynch today. this is our best shot. Huh? I never defended Camlito or even mentioned his name. I just figured he's just another victim pulled from your ass. As for Shadow, I was just pointing out the flaws of you claiming sureness of him being Mafia, hence reinforcing my argument of doubting your logic of claiming that I am Mafia. But I guess your eyes go blind when you've already made up your decision and become subjective, that defending him is my only motive. This also brings up another flaw in your argument. Since you mentioned you ALREADY KNOW Shadowdrgn is Mafia, and you even SAID he is in the Lucchese Family, why don't you lynch a 100% red target first? I mean you don't have any vigilantes to use to kill him at night, why not kill a "sure" target? Or is he...? And how did you know his the EXACT family he belongs in anyways? Interesting... My initial attitude was resignation? When? A couple pages ago you just argued I was Normally Active. Eee-Han point their Caller, almost as good as the reasoning you lynched the 2 townies.  | ||
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Camlito
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Caller
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On December 06 2008 12:21 Fishball wrote: Huh? I never defended Camlito or even mentioned his name. I just figured he's just another victim pulled from your ass. As for Shadow, I was just pointing out the flaws of you claiming sureness of him being Mafia, hence reinforcing my argument of doubting your logic of claiming that I am Mafia. But I guess your eyes go blind when you've already made up your decision and become subjective, that defending him is my only motive. This also brings up another flaw in your argument. Since you mentioned you ALREADY KNOW Shadowdrgn is Mafia, and you even SAID he is in the Lucchese Family, why don't you lynch a 100% red target first? I mean you don't have any vigilantes to use to kill him at night, why not kill a "sure" target? Or is he...? And how did you know his the EXACT family he belongs in anyways? Interesting... My initial attitude was resignation? When? A couple pages ago you just argued I was Normally Active. Eee-Han point their Caller, almost as good as the reasoning you lynched the 2 townies. well this is an about face from ur previous attitude here whatever, i promise that if you flip green that if i dont die the next day i'll sacrifice myself for the greater good... lol shadowdrgn and u are equally likely to be scummy. but you are correlated with reign whom has a high position (bone breaker most likely) so we'd rather hit that one up first. | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
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Caller
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Camlito
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On December 06 2008 12:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote: LoL, cmon guys some of you might be dead already (ace is posting in 2 parts this night) so why are you guys arguing for who to lynch ? You seem to know something about who might be dead.. | ||
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Caller
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On December 06 2008 12:44 Camlito wrote: You seem to know something about who might be dead.. got it bad got it bad im hot for teacher | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
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On December 06 2008 12:44 Camlito wrote: You seem to know something about who might be dead.. I know everything | ||
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On December 06 2008 12:44 Camlito wrote: You seem to know something about who might be dead.. Of course he does lol. But it's not like you guys don't already know more that ^_^ Ok here's the issue. If there's a leak, it's me, not Caller (or 1 other source who I won't name but we both know who). Frankly I don't think there's necessary a leak. It's been just hitting specific people who have been very obvious (and they do get misses when they go for 'lucky' inactive blue hits like bockit or xcetron). I've received the majority of role pms. I've been giving strategies and helping figure out various mafia. Caller cannot be mafia. That's just how it is. I however can be the godfather or traitor because I'm townie (I've been checked). Here's who I've been wrong on that Caller has had absolutely nothing to do with and was just following my suggestions (since he does a lot of other stuff while I do this stuff): empyrean (we actually called lucas off but it was received too late) bloodycobbler (caller pardoned even tho I wanted him dead) mandalor vivi was selected from a list of ppl who could have potentially been mafia and was 50/50 on. Here's who I've been right on using the same method: mynock randombum folca +3 others that are confirmed SA was the only person that I didn't think we should've killed (because he was traitor, or at least I thought so) I also received a message from a known mafia saying Hi so I'm assuming I got hit(s) sent at me which might or not go through. But Ace never messaged me about dying so whatever I'm still posting. Townies and Yamaguchi I call upon you! The mafia surely will try to save their partners here as the town's strength has been severely diminished. Fishball/Camlito are Lucchese and hence will have the support of 8 others; however some are potentially inactive or are at least faking it. When people who have never posted start defending them or voting for caller/me whoever then it's sure as hell obvious who is who here. If they don't after this post then we have it easier ^_^ | ||
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Fishball
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On December 06 2008 12:24 Caller wrote: well this is an about face from ur previous attitude here whatever, i promise that if you flip green that if i dont die the next day i'll sacrifice myself for the greater good... lol shadowdrgn and u are equally likely to be scummy. but you are correlated with reign whom has a high position (bone breaker most likely) so we'd rather hit that one up first. Ok, your reply just triggered something really interesting... Everyone please take some time to digest this. Like mentioned in my last post, and according to you(Caller): - You're not wanting to lynch a sure Mafia that you already know, even though there are no vigilante kills left, but someone else of the same family which you claimed they are. - You also accused me of defending Shadowdrgn and Camilto, which I haven't. - You mentioned Shadowdrgn is in the Lucchese Family - You say that I am highly possibly, a Bone Breaker. Everyone, please slow down a bit and think. Why would Caller accuse me so quickly, and say I am defending "one of my own", when I never ever mentioned Camilto? How does he know for sure, we are all in the Lucchese Family, and my role is a Bone Breaker? How would one get so much information? Or I should say, how would one KNOW so much information? A few possibilities immediately comes to my mind. (Since there is no proof of anything, I'm just going to use the term "players" for the following) 1 - Caller got a leaked list of players himself. (IRC, MSN, Email, Computer sharing, etc.) One will have to think, is the information true? is it reliable? Could it be one of the other families leaking out fake information? Why would this piece of information be lying here? 2 - Someone gave Caller a list of players. All the criteria above applies, also is the person providing the information reliable? Is it possible that both of us are blindsided? 3 - Caller made up his own list of players. Pretty much self explanatory here, for obvious reasons. Caller seems very very confident with his claims; He knows for sure that me, shadow, and camilto are connected, despite the reasoning I listed above. Judging from all the blues and greens from the town's deaths, the double townie lynch proposal he made based on very weak reasoning, which a lot of people have already pointed out (yes, it is getting old Caller), if the trend continues, what possibility could it be? 1, 2... or 3?... To me, Caller is either Mafia and wants to kill as much townies as possible before he is finally taken out by the angry town, or is a very dumb wannabe Mayor who has no clue what he is doing and is just being used as a pawn by the Mafia. According to what Caller told Vivi57 for his reasoning to be lynched, "If you're not helpful, you should die", well this applies to you to right, Caller? | ||
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On December 06 2008 13:21 Fishball wrote: Ok, your reply just triggered something really interesting... Everyone please take some time to digest this. Like mentioned in my last post, and according to you(Caller): - You're not wanting to lynch a sure Mafia that you already know, even though there are no vigilante kills left, but someone else of the same family which you claimed they are. - You also accused me of defending Shadowdrgn and Camilto, which I haven't. - You mentioned Shadowdrgn is in the Lucchese Family - You say that I am highly possibly, a Bone Breaker. Everyone, please slow down a bit and think. Why would Caller accuse me so quickly, and say I am defending "one of my own", when I never ever mentioned Camilto? How does he know for sure, we are all in the Lucchese Family, and my role is a Bone Breaker? How would one get so much information? Or I should say, how would one KNOW so much information? A few possibilities immediately comes to my mind. (Since there is no proof of anything, I'm just going to use the term "players" for the following) 1 - Caller got a leaked list of players himself. (IRC, MSN, Email, Computer sharing, etc.) One will have to think, is the information true? is it reliable? Could it be one of the other families leaking out fake information? Why would this piece of information be lying here? 2 - Someone gave Caller a list of players. All the criteria above applies, also is the person providing the information reliable? Is it possible that both of us are blindsided? 3 - Caller made up his own list of players. Pretty much self explanatory here, for obvious reasons. Caller seems very very confident with his claims; He knows for sure that me, shadow, and camilto are connected, despite the reasoning I listed above. Judging from all the blues and greens from the town's deaths, the double townie lynch proposal he made based on very weak reasoning, which a lot of people have already pointed out (yes, it is getting old Caller), if the trend continues, what possibility could it be? 1, 2... or 3?... To me, Caller is either Mafia and wants to kill as much townies as possible before he is finally taken out by the angry town, or is a very dumb wannabe Mayor who has no clue what he is doing and is just being used as a pawn by the Mafia. According to what Caller told Vivi57 for his reasoning to be lynched, "If you're not helpful, you should die", well this applies to you to right, Caller? yep i got an (uncomplete) list the reason i got it is because one of your members is (was?) not very scrupulous. kind of like another member on the other mafia is not very scrupulous, either (hence the 5 mafia hits) and if i am mafia why would i want to kill townies, if anything i'd try and kill the other mafia at this point townies are virtually no longer a threat maybe i am a dumb, wannabe mayor who has no clue what i am doing and is being used as a pawn. i don't care at this point. all i know is that this is in the best interest of town here. although i dunno ur role, i'm just geussing bone breaker b/c ur connected to reign, who is a leader, and since he's not godfather (rex) and capo is dead, process of elimination. more importantly the fact that you don't refute any of my assertations makes me that much more likely to have you lynched. and that you never posted such a long diatribe before hand is also odd, especially when you said "oh all i ever join this game for is to screw around" after i gave the double lynch theory which you may have edited ( i haven't checked) and clearly you're not being helpful. and i'm dead anyways, if anything not lynching me forces mafia to waste one or two hits trying to kill me. whereas lynching you is far more likely to be beneficial. edit here it is On December 06 2008 10:56 Fishball wrote: It's cool. Clues are always subjective and depends on how you interpret it. Those who knows what is a "Fishball", and those who don't makes a big difference. I don't think I match Reign's personality at all, but if you want to kill me based on "Normally Active" and a "Bowl", so be it. Granted I'm never helpful, or ever was. The sole purpose of me playing Mafia is just to "screw" around for fun. I don't know about Shadowdrgn, but waterGHOSTCLAWdragon shares just the same clues to me. But since you're so "sure" with everything, go ahead  that quote leads me to believe that you suddenly received/are taking orders from somebody here. hmmdehmm ^^ | ||
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Fishball
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Since I'm accused, of course I would have to defend myself. Besides the inactives, who would really pass up a chance to really "play" the game ? Mafia IS somewhat a survival game afterall.As seen in many many Mafia games, the most active ones usually are the one to die first. In general, most people just wants to survive to the end, including me. Since my "life" is threatened, of course I would do anything I can to stay alive. Makes sense to you? But yeah, when I say I join Mafia is just to screw around, it is true. I always wished I had a vigilante role. That means I could just killed whoever I want. Being Mafia, only one person gets to submit the kill list, which is no fun. Medic, Elders, Bodyguards(ugh I got that once) etc, worst of all, greenies, is just not my type of role. So joining the game to play for my own survival, and a chance to get a role I want, is it really that hard to tell? I'm pretty sure I'm speaking for a lot of players here too. Oh, and what do you mean I did not "refute" any of your assertions. Are my arguments and points made really that subtle?... Taking orders from someone? What? How did you turn sarcastic statements into a taking-orders-from-someone "clue". | ||
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Caller
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On December 06 2008 14:26 Fishball wrote: Why would one be in action if it does not engage yourself? Since I'm accused, of course I would have to defend myself. Besides the inactives, who would really pass up a chance to really "play" the game ? Mafia IS somewhat a survival game afterall.As seen in many many Mafia games, the most active ones usually are the one to die first. In general, most people just wants to survive to the end, including me. Since my "life" is threatened, of course I would do anything I can to stay alive. Makes sense to you? But yeah, when I say I join Mafia is just to screw around, it is true. I always wished I had a vigilante role. That means I could just killed whoever I want. Being Mafia, only one person gets to submit the kill list, which is no fun. Medic, Elders, Bodyguards(ugh I got that once) etc, worst of all, greenies, is just not my type of role. So joining the game to play for my own survival, and a chance to get a role I want, is it really that hard to tell? I'm pretty sure I'm speaking for a lot of players here too. Oh, and what do you mean I did not "refute" any of your assertions. Are my arguments and points made really that subtle?... Taking orders from someone? What? How did you turn sarcastic statements into a taking-orders-from-someone "clue". its not a clue its just a statement its not a survival game for town fyi, its a greater-good game, where lowly townies sacrifice themselves for the greater good to buy time for more vaulable townies and blues. survival is something mafia would try to do. anyways i'd love to chat but i have to finish this essay enjoy | ||
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Fishball
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On December 06 2008 14:34 Caller wrote: its not a clue its just a statement its not a survival game for town fyi, its a greater-good game, where lowly townies sacrifice themselves for the greater good to buy time for more vaulable townies and blues. survival is something mafia would try to do. anyways i'd love to chat but i have to finish this essay enjoy That is only what you think, and I'm sure a lot people will also agree with you. But you don't speak for me, and the other that doesn't agree with you. Wasn't it in Mafia 1, where Dr. Dragoon just says he wants to survive? or was it someone else. I'm pretty sure another person also mentioned this statement in this game too. I haven't read every single post in all 4(5) mafia games, but I can assure you this has been brought up multiple times. | ||
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Caller
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time to change back to terran tanks are cooler fuck its a goliath | ||
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