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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On October 27 2008 23:42 araav wrote: I think useLess is the most useLess guy around  every time i read this i cringe a little for useLess.. mostly because he changed his name from useless to useLess in an attempt to stop this thing from happening. i don't remember the thread but i remember hot_bid (or someone) was basically telling him that it's not going to change anything..guess he was right  | ||
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sixghost
United States2096 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32054 Posts
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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Empyrean
16987 Posts
EDIT: And town, we have more than five days. Mafia killing power is at max 5...read the rules :/ | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
Also, I'm going to change the 'rounded down' comment to 'rounded up' this game. So mafia will still have 5 hits after losing one member this time around. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On October 29 2008 12:53 Empyrean wrote: hmmmm...dude sounds like mafia, lynch?EDIT: And town, we have more than five days. Mafia killing power is at max 5...read the rules :/ | ||
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aZnvaLiaNce
United States942 Posts
He always dies at first day/night post. And he always turns up red. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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araav
Armenia1590 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Oh, thought only 40 people got to play . Nevermind! | ||
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On October 29 2008 12:53 Empyrean wrote: Could I have a rough estimate of the times you'll be posting (UTC -5...that's EST) so I can best prepare myself for the frenzy of refreshes and replies? EDIT: And town, we have more than five days. Mafia killing power is at max 5...read the rules :/ oops, 7 days then.I was thinking mafia only needed to kill 21 townies (become more than half of town) instead of 31 (outnumber town). My bad. 31/5= 6.2. | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
On October 30 2008 01:09 Chezinu wrote: oops, 7 days then.I was thinking mafia only needed to kill 21 townies (become more than half of town) instead of 31 (outnumber town). My bad. 31/5= 6.2. uhm? if town kills no mafia, then 6 townies die every day (5 killed by mafia, 1 by town), so after 5 days 30 townies are killed and only 10 remain, along with 10 mafia -> mafia win | ||
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On October 30 2008 01:26 ZBiR wrote: uhm? if town kills no mafia, then 6 townies die every day (5 killed by mafia, 1 by town), so after 5 days 30 townies are killed and only 10 remain, along with 10 mafia -> mafia win Maybe thats how I came up with the 5 days. I should show my work - so I wouldn't forget how I came to the conclusion. But Mafia has to outnumber town not equal - so I was wrong none the less. so 6 days. Suicide bomber, Jacks, Mad Hatters, and vigilantes makes it unpredictable anyways. Edit: If you can't wait for mafia to start and have nothing better to do. + Show Spoiler + Worst case scenario for town: Day/night 1: 1 - Town lynches innocent 5 - mafia kills 5 town 6 - dead on first day/night Day/night 2: 1 - town lynches another innocent 5 - mafia kills 5 townies 5 - 3 vigilantes and 2 jacks kill townies 11 – dead on second day/night Day/night 3: 1 – town lynches another townie 5 – mafia kills another 5 8 - 3 paramedics and 2 jacks all protect one person and mafia happens to use a suicide bomber on him and the two jacks happened to place bombs on townies on the first day. 4 – mafia happens to kill 2 mad hatters, who both have already placed both bombs on townies. 18 – dead on third day/night Total: 35 dead townies, but 1 suicide bomber died so its 9 to 5 and mafia wins! | ||
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Unforgiven
Venezuela238 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On October 30 2008 12:47 Unforgiven wrote: wtf, this is not fair!!!! =( with your role background, i'd convince you to get lynched on the first day anyway mr mafia-3-times-in-a-row | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
Although looking at the numbers this game seems a wee bit in favor of mafia to me. I'll give you guys some numbers I compiled so you can decide for yourself. Here are some stats: This game first, Last game second: Total players 50 v 132 Total mafia 10 v 20 Mafia % 20 v %15.15% Townie with role 40% v 30%( around depending if mafia pardoner counts.) Anybody with role 52% v 39.39% Min days for Mafia victory 3 (This game) + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2008 11:54 Chezinu wrote: Maybe thats how I came up with the 5 days. I should show my work - so I wouldn't forget how I came to the conclusion. But Mafia has to outnumber town not equal - so I was wrong none the less. so 6 days. Suicide bomber, Jacks, Mad Hatters, and vigilantes makes it unpredictable anyways. Edit: If you can't wait for mafia to start and have nothing better to do. + Show Spoiler + Worst case scenario for town: Day/night 1: 1 - Town lynches innocent 5 - mafia kills 5 town 6 - dead on first day/night Day/night 2: 1 - town lynches another innocent 5 - mafia kills 5 townies 5 - 3 vigilantes and 2 jacks kill townies 11 – dead on second day/night Day/night 3: 1 – town lynches another townie 5 – mafia kills another 5 8 - 3 paramedics and 2 jacks all protect one person and mafia happens to use a suicide bomber on him and the two jacks happened to place bombs on townies on the first day. 4 – mafia happens to kill 2 mad hatters, who both have already placed both bombs on townies. 18 – dead on third day/night Total: 35 dead townies, but 1 suicide bomber died so its 9 to 5 and mafia wins! Min days for Mafia victory 6 + Show Spoiler + Day/night 1: 1 - Mayor kill 9 - mafia kills 9 town 10 - dead on first day/night Day/night 2: 2 - Town double lynches innocent 9 - mafia kills 9 town 8 - Vigs/ MH/jack all kill innocents 19 - dead on second day/night 29- Current total Day/night 3: 1 -1 Town lynch 9 - Mafia kills 9 town 8 -Vigs/ MH/jack 18 - Dead on third day/night 47 - Current total Day/night 4: 2 - Double lynch 9 - Mafia 4 - MH/jack 15 - Dead on fourth night/ day 62 - Current total Day/night 5: 1- lynch 9- mafia 2- jack 12 - Day/night 5 74 Total Day 6 2 Double lynch- 9- Normal mafia kill 10 - 7 medics + 2 jacks + target from suicide bomber. 21- day 6 Total - 95 112-95 = 17 Mafia have 19 they have won. Min days for town to win assuming best possible scenario is 2 for both games. (wee bit unlikely) Differences - No mayor/bodygaurds/pardoner hurts town, ALOT - No saboteur, Hurts mafia (somewhat?) + Show Spoiler + What a fucking useless role, you have to declare sabotage the day before you want to use it-> basically only useful on mayor or roles you know but don't want to kill (lol) It can't even snipe vets because they get the whole day/night cycle to tell medics they are targeted. + Show Spoiler + For those who don't know this was me last game, I bitched a lot about this point actually, Chuiu ended up declaring he banned me because I would let this drop) - Kills rounded up obviously help mafia. -Almost all players will be active good for both sides, although it leans towards town (clue-checking > clue-faking, although plexa mafia might convince everybody) -More mafia % = better for mafia side (duh.) Anyways, good luck to both teams. This took me far longer than I planned. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On top of that, with the mayor/bodyguard system gone, we have no way of verifying the security of a matter when someone says "vote to lynch X". So, townies are going to have to draw their own conclusions, because the mafia aren't going to sit around letting just a few vocal townies live like they did last game. The best counter town has to that is to make sure that all of the town is active; they can't silence every voice at once if the whole town is talking. /pregame town bias Watch me flip Mafia. | ||
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