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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 08:04:44
November 06 2008 08:03 GMT
#1101
I misread, nevermind!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 06 2008 08:05 GMT
#1102
as a note for people who are going to be analyzing this, the writing method used is known as Alliteration, which is a form of constrained writing.

This method is one of many used highly in poetry
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
November 06 2008 08:14 GMT
#1103
arg missed the day

ill try to keep up more sorry guys
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 06 2008 08:19 GMT
#1104
Nightmare, Plexa could be mafia.
Otherwise, it's definitely paramedic protection.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
November 06 2008 08:28 GMT
#1105
or veteran
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 06 2008 08:43 GMT
#1106
Oh true, I totally forgot the possibility of him being veteran.

I don't find a reason for Plexa to NOT have gotten hit if he is not mafia. These are the scenarios:

1. Mafia - obviously mafia can't lynch fellow mafiosos
2. Veteran - Probably took a hit tonight
3. Protected by medic

Anyways, who's willing to do clue analysis? I have to study for an exam atm. =.=
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
November 06 2008 08:45 GMT
#1107
On November 06 2008 17:43 clazziquai wrote:
Oh true, I totally forgot the possibility of him being veteran.

I don't find a reason for Plexa to NOT have gotten hit if he is not mafia. These are the scenarios:

1. Mafia - obviously mafia can't lynch fellow mafiosos
2. Veteran - Probably took a hit tonight
3. Protected by medic

Anyways, who's willing to do clue analysis? I have to study for an exam atm. =.=


I'm doing it at the moment, but it really is a pain in the ass with all these adjectives. T_T

I'm about halfway done with listing possible suspects in cross-reference to an overall view on each paragraphs tone/traits.
Think. :)
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
November 06 2008 09:26 GMT
#1108
All right, at first I tried approaching this from a word-by-word basis. Given the amount of adjectives and the headache putting all of this into different words to make for easier reading is, I've decided to (at least for now) put that off in favor of general tones and possible applicable persons.

Anonymous:

+ Show Spoiler [Original Quote] +
Audaciously anticipating accessible attempts, an anonymous assumed a angle. As Empyrean advanced around adversely, his advantage abated. As abruptly as Empyrean agitated, an anonymous accelerated. Aroused, an anonymous attacked actively accusing an abrasion abhorrent and animating. Anemic and asthmatic Empyrean assuredly after all'ed.


+ Show Spoiler +
Seems to be someone quick moving and reactive. Perhaps medical related people should be under scrutiny, too, as per the end result.


Man:

+ Show Spoiler [Original Quote] +
Marked man maneuvered muted into mysterious mien. Alventenie mindlessly massaged as man made most merrily memories the milestone materializing. Mediating machete with misfit, man murderously mutilated Alventenie monstrously. Murdered and massacred, Alventenie mangled the mat.


+ Show Spoiler +
Someone concealed, as related by such words as "muted", "mysterious", and the seemingly innocent nature of Man precluding the "[murderous] mutilation". Certainly a violent person, and perhaps someone with ties to mythical beasts/monsters, due to the description "monstrously".


Individual:

+ Show Spoiler [Original Quote] +
Indifference innovated the ingenious individual to invent initiative. Instinctively individual intervened impetuously in Caller, inflicting insult and injury. Irrationally irritated, Caller insisted in improvement. Insulted, individual interpreted it as an insurrection and inflated Caller into inextricable.


+ Show Spoiler +
Shows an intellectual or prideful leaning, in which Individual is at first indifferent until Caller disagrees with him, at which point Caller is murdered in some complex way. Look for vanity.


Neighbor:

+ Show Spoiler [Original Quote] +
Nervously Fishball nudged nearly to navigator. Nefarious neighbor non-belligerently narrowed nukes nearer. Nastily needling nuggets, nefarious neighbor naturally newbied Fishball. Nevermore.


+ Show Spoiler +
I'd like to take a moment to say that "non-belligerently narrowed nukes nearer" is positively fun to read. :p

As for the analysis, this one is the hardest to call. "Nefarious" itself just means someone openly against the town/evil, and the only person that comes to mind for that right now is Ace. Perhaps a sea or "The Raven" theme is applicable.



Possible connections to the general tones: (Bolded names are those I feel are potentially strong as suspects. In the case that I didn't have a personally strong suspect, I bolded a single one in the paragraph that I thought was the strongest of those I presented.)


Anonymous:

+ Show Spoiler +

imDerek:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Very weak connection in medical terms, having "errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" in his quote, which may be construed as ER. It should be noted, though, that nothing in his profile lends itself much to clue making.


XCetron:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Cetron is the last name of one Dr. Martin Cetron, direction of a division of the CDC. Again, a weak connection to the medical end of Anonymous.


Falcynn:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Blurring the name into "falcon" you get a very agile, quick bird.


Mandalor:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: The Mandalorians are a warrior race from the Star Wars universe. Very loose connection to the speed/reactive way Anonymous acted.


G.s)Naruto:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Naruto is a ninja, and ninjas are fast!

Yeah, I know.



Man:

+ Show Spoiler +

fusionsdf:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Weak connection using the bottom paragraph in his profile quote, which tells a story of quiet kid going on to some sort of conflict. No real evidence of violence, however.


Chezinu:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Weak connection with his profile quote. Inhuman entity, whose intentions and past are unknown, yet suspected to be evil in some way.


Mynock:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Take a look at this page. They are described as a parasite, which is certainly a hidden entity, that could cause sudden "catastrophic failure" if not caught in time. (in other words, death) Adding to this, they are a creature, which goes along with the "monstrously" in Man's paragraph.


ShadowDrgn:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Shadow = Hidden, Dragon = violent creature. It is clean, simple, and goes pretty well with the analysis. I could bold this, but I feel like Mynock is a much stronger fit due to its better complexity.


Falcynn:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Mostly just putting this out there for humor value. The bunny, a creature normally viewed as gentle, suddenly starts moshing violently!

I thought it was fun and even a little apt, though I seriously doubt it's correct. :p



Individual:

+ Show Spoiler +

Yogurt:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Essentially regard this as filler, since I felt the need to populate this list with at least one person. States that he's "real yogurt" instead "...that shitty drinkable kind." Pride and vanity! We have a mafia for sure, people.


KH1031:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Profile quote is on a subject of national pride, and could potentially be a touchy one if disagreed with, causing a sudden conflict.


FakeSteve:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: This begins and ends with one fact: He has his own fanclub. This provides a potential backdrop for vanity, though I don't think this is a strong connection.


Neighbor:

+ Show Spoiler +

Clazziquai:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Very questionable tie-in to a "navigator" theme from his quote "#1 Sea.Really Fan". Not at all strong.


JeeJee:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: His quote: "It brings tears of joy to my eyes to see the tears of angst in theirs." Pretty indicative of a maligned viewpoint towards a group.


goldenkrnboi:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Questionable connection through his quote: "Dear Light, please die. Hate, GKB." Light could be interpreted as the "good" side, and telling it to die is pretty evil. :p


Falcynn:
+ Show Spoiler +

Reasoning: Very questionable connection train between Falcynn -> Falcon -> Bird -> Raven.



Alright, that's it for tonight. It's nearing 3:30am here and I've been up for about 22 of the past 24 hours. Take a look and see what you guys think. I don't know that I've pinned anybody yet, but there are reasonably strong connections in there. I'll check todays clues against the first days tomorrow, see if I can't strengthen any.

Night, all.
Think. :)
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 06 2008 09:33 GMT
#1109
Nice MTF.

lol@falcynn on 3 lists.
sAviOr...
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 06 2008 09:35 GMT
#1110
Great job MTF!
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 06 2008 09:47 GMT
#1111
geez this is extra hard for people like me who suck at clue analysis
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 06 2008 10:03 GMT
#1112
Very nice MTF, thanks! I was kinda lost with the clues seeing that English is only my second language I hope the next batch of clues will be written in prose.

Ok, let me suggest a possible course of action for today. We're gonna vote to lynch someone based on the clues. During the night, Ace and a second suspect (perhaps the guy with the second most lynching votes) are to be slain by vigilantes. If all three vigilantes select at random from among Ace and the second dude, we have a chance of 87.5% of Ace dying, and 75% that both die. If I didn't miscalculate, that is. As you know, no vigi hits are wasted, as the second hit on the same target is cancelled anyway. Is this a good way to go?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 06 2008 10:12 GMT
#1113
no its not
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 06 2008 10:51 GMT
#1114
Anybody EXCEPT ACE: Is this a good way to go?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 11:08:42
November 06 2008 11:08 GMT
#1115
On November 06 2008 19:03 Scorch wrote:
Very nice MTF, thanks! I was kinda lost with the clues seeing that English is only my second language I hope the next batch of clues will be written in prose.

Ok, let me suggest a possible course of action for today. We're gonna vote to lynch someone based on the clues. During the night, Ace and a second suspect (perhaps the guy with the second most lynching votes) are to be slain by vigilantes. If all three vigilantes select at random from among Ace and the second dude, we have a chance of 87.5% of Ace dying, and 75% that both die. If I didn't miscalculate, that is. As you know, no vigi hits are wasted, as the second hit on the same target is cancelled anyway. Is this a good way to go?


vigilante hits that don't go through (IE if two vigilantes try to kill the same target) are refunded, so there's no waste
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 06 2008 11:09 GMT
#1116
You guys should do whatever FakeSteve says to do
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
November 06 2008 11:11 GMT
#1117
good plan, except the second voted guy should not be murdered, unless it's really obvious he's one of them. We need vigis powers mid/late games more.

Now we need a good veteran come out, speak, prove he's not a mafia (this is the hardest part ) and speak for the detectives for a while........
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 06 2008 12:13 GMT
#1118
Nightmare let me explain to you my current situation, firstly note two things
1) No OSL news for the finals
2) No mafia clue analysis, or any sign of being active in mafia

The reason for both of these is that I am currently in finals season, i had one two days ago, and i have one in aprrox 8.25 hours. I won't be able to do anything mafia related until after monday (KST) so until then why should the mafia waste a hit on me when you have so many other people who are posting useful and relevant analysis on the current situation.

The 4 who died were the most active posters advocating for decaf's lynch iirc? There's got to be something in that. I haven't done much analysis and only read over the thread a few times, but the fact that they tried so hard to get decaf lynched and now are dead mean one of two things;
a) The mafia wanted us to observe that all these people wanted decaf dead are now dead themselves, and because decaf is mafia, people would think that this move by the mafia means that decaf is green (and want the townies to waste a lynch on decaf) as killing off all his accusers looks really suspicious and makes decaf look like a mafia.
b) Mafia is stupid, and just exposed decaf as mafia

basically a) Mafia is trying to fake out the town, b) Mafia just fucked up really bad haha
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 06 2008 12:53 GMT
#1119
Alventenie and Empyrean were the main ones trying to get people to vote for decaf, although empyrean switched his vote like three times (last one counted was for Folca). Caller voted for Ace and Fishball didn't vote at all so...

At first I thought that it might've been misdirection to waste out lynch on decaf next and stray away from the other two lists, mainly the Folca list, but it doesn't seem like they really targetted people that voted for decaf, just people that were active, except fishball, who barely posted anything.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 06 2008 13:06 GMT
#1120
On November 06 2008 17:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
as a note for people who are going to be analyzing this, the writing method used is known as Alliteration, which is a form of constrained writing.

This method is one of many used highly in poetry



We all must be 13 and never used writing styles before... we're aware of this, but it wasn't the direct motive. Check Chezinu's post. I will analyze when I get to work.
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