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On November 11 2008 10:58 Chuiu wrote: Also I think there is some thread inactivity due to not updating the title. I think most people, ie: Fakesteve, read it and assume we're still on that day. I hope Sonuvbob doesn't have something stupid like lung surgery or something going on
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So do we go back to solid clue analysis or do we hope for more detective work?
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On November 11 2008 23:38 fusionsdf wrote: I'm going to wait until after day cycle to reveal that :D And if you die tonight?
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Thanks for updating the thread title Sonuvbob!
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On November 12 2008 05:03 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2008 02:33 mikeymoo wrote:On November 11 2008 23:38 fusionsdf wrote: I'm going to wait until after day cycle to reveal that :D And if you die tonight? fusion will probably not die. if you remember, he said he already took a hit last night. so if that is true then the mafia know he will be protected Either protected or a vet.
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Breathe.
Okay guys. You know how Mynock said someone else would be posting the information he found out? That was supposed to be me. I was confused at the time, and didn’t know what to do. Between him and I, we figured that I should try to support the unknown other person to post the information, while withdrawing it myself. That would lure out the mafia and hopefully a suicide bomber (which happened). After which I would reveal that the information is legitimate. I believe the DT/Jack is currently hiding- storing information and releasing it all at once, as he believes he is safe (he has not PMed me any more information, leading me to believe he is a Jack instead). No need for both the mouths for a detective/Jack dying. Along with Mynock, I would much rather lose my life than a blue one. So I’m going to confirm that the list for day 2 decafchicken is correct. So why am I announcing this?
One, to get information validated. Two of the following people are mafia: ZBiR Artanis[Xp] HeRoS)Pink Lenwe BloodyC0bbler It is REALLY stupid for a mafia to give both Mynock and myself false information. Either of us can call him out if the list is false. That, or when the DT/Jack dies, we can prove the information is legit.
I’ve PMed someone I fully trust (details as to why will not be revealed) who the source of my information (i.e. who the detective was that notified me, so he/she can be called out if the info ever turns out wrong, or can be verified if the mafia randomly hits him).
Second, the mafia now has two loose mouths on their hands, speaking for two detectives. They now need to get me AND fusion tonight to stop the detectives from talking, and that’s three hits. (I’m pretty sure fusion is a vet- don’t see why a medic would randomly protect him) And if a medic protects either of us? Well, mafia’s screwed. And if they don’t? Mafia still wastes hits, as it’ll take two more to kill fusion (which is why I think the DT PMed fusion- very safe bet). One out of every two townies has a blue role, and it will be a critical judgment call for mafia whether they want to keep the mouths alive and guess the detectives, or kill us and waste potential hits. If fusion and I die tonight, over 50% of the remaining true townie population is blue. If everyone plays it right, this should be pretty easy from then on (especially if vigis do their job properly). The DTs/Jacks will have to find new mouths to use. If mafia decides to spread three hits, so be it. There are high odds that both DTs/Jacks will stay alive, and the two of us will hopefully have new information for you in the day cycle. If not, I’m sure the DTs/Jacks have backup measures installed.
This is my sacrifice (a la Mynock).
EDIT: Paragraphs and colour.
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On November 12 2008 06:53 mikeymoo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Breathe.
Okay guys. You know how Mynock said someone else would be posting the information he found out? That was supposed to be me. I was confused at the time, and didn’t know what to do. Between him and I, we figured that I should try to support the unknown other person to post the information, while withdrawing it myself. That would lure out the mafia and hopefully a suicide bomber (which happened). After which I would reveal that the information is legitimate. I believe the DT/Jack is currently hiding- storing information and releasing it all at once, as he believes he is safe (he has not PMed me any more information, leading me to believe he is a Jack instead). No need for both the mouths for a detective/Jack dying. Along with Mynock, I would much rather lose my life than a blue one. So I’m going to confirm that the list for day 2 decafchicken is correct. So why am I announcing this? One, to get information validated. Two of the following people are mafia: ZBiR Artanis[Xp] HeRoS)Pink Lenwe BloodyC0bbler It is REALLY stupid for a mafia to give both Mynock and myself false information. Either of us can call him out if the list is false. That, or when the DT/Jack dies, we can prove the information is legit. I’ve PMed someone I fully trust (details as to why will not be revealed) who the source of my information (i.e. who the detective was that notified me, so he/she can be called out if the info ever turns out wrong, or can be verified if the mafia randomly hits him). Second, the mafia now has two loose mouths on their hands, speaking for two detectives. They now need to get me AND fusion tonight to stop the detectives from talking, and that’s three hits. (I’m pretty sure fusion is a vet- don’t see why a medic would randomly protect him) And if a medic protects either of us? Well, mafia’s screwed. And if they don’t? Mafia still wastes hits, as it’ll take two more to kill fusion (which is why I think the DT PMed fusion- very safe bet). One out of every two townies has a blue role, and it will be a critical judgment call for mafia whether they want to keep the mouths alive and guess the detectives, or kill us and waste potential hits. If fusion and I die tonight, over 50% of the remaining true townie population is blue. If everyone plays it right, this should be pretty easy from then on (especially if vigis do their job properly). The DTs/Jacks will have to find new mouths to use. If mafia decides to spread three hits, so be it. There are high odds that both DTs/Jacks will stay alive, and the two of us will hopefully have new information for you in the day cycle. If not, I’m sure the DTs/Jacks have backup measures installed. This is my sacrifice (a la Mynock). Quoting myself because I want to format the post a little better and not be accused of editing things out.
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On November 12 2008 07:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Nicely done mickey, and although i can't speak for artanis, we both have set ourselves up for dts to check our lists to prove our innocence(we both are suspects as well we both voted for random people no one else voted for to do this) This will add myself and hopefully artanis as people for the DT's to report through. I would ask DT's to do this soon though, so i can help organize the towns night actions to further kill the mafia. It's mikey. Everyone does it. Anyway.
I believe that even the act of voting for someone nobody else did clears you, for now. No DTs have spoken up yet, leading me to believe you are green. For now.
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On November 12 2008 11:55 fusionsdf wrote:
lol just realized it could be shadowdrgn too -.-''
I was going to mention this regarding the "scorch" clue.
EDIT: Also, MOOOOOOOoooooo
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Needles again eh? Firstly, GO VIGIS. Sorry MidnightGladius, but if someone didn't vigi you we'd be lynching you in daytime probably. I'm VERY surprised I wasn't hit. Well, to a degree. It really doesn't benefit mafia to hit a green right now, considering all of the lost time they have to catch up for. Again, today is very important. Lowering mafia's kill rate is enormous today. I'm assuming fusion or I will have more information today, as at least my DT/Jack is still alive.
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On November 13 2008 02:25 Chezinu wrote: I vote for mikeymoo
Sorry, I need to laugh at this a little. Care to offer at least an explanation?
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You know what? Let's get this going. ZBiR, you've been far far far too suspicious as of late. Barring any further information, for now, ## I vote to lynch ZBiR That list is legit. 2/5 DOES equal 40%.
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On November 13 2008 07:12 ZBiR wrote:So, uhm... what is it exactly against me? That I was AFK for some time? The fact that I tend to oppose people I consider fools? (shall be obvious who am I referring to) Or maybe it's that me = bandit (well, more like thug, but w/e), and SOME MAFIA DID ACT LIKE A BANDIT?! Oh noes, who would've thought they're gonna attack people and shit... Yeah, lynch me, then lynch a blue you don't have a clue about, then get owned after 4/10 of the mafia were handed to you. GL Thanks JeeJee 
For me personally it's how you've been acting and how you spazzed at nightmare. But from this post, maybe you're just a spazzy person. And 4/10 were not handed to "us" (wtf "you" as in townies? why not "us"???). We worked for those, thank you.
How is the following post not incriminating and highly defensive?
On November 11 2008 23:01 ZBiR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2008 11:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i ask Zbir and Artanix[xp] to vote for some unknown to be able to check for mafia. Failure to do this will result in next in the line for the gallows.  Firstly, I was at my girl's place for last 40+ hours, so I wasn't checking TL Secondly, you have no power whatsoever to place me "next in line for the gallows" (unless you're mafia/vigilante, which I doubt) Thirdly, since I'm far from being a suspect I don't see why I would be forced to do such things, so I won't. And lastly, I will vote in a manner I choose myself. Don't even try to give me orders, Nightmare. Good that another mafia bit the dust, too bad I couldn't contribute to it ;]
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On November 13 2008 08:54 fusionsdf wrote: WHATS YOUR THING
oh I get it clue analysis wtf ninja edit
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On November 13 2008 11:59 Plexa wrote: what's this list, can i see it? From me earlier:
Two of the following people are mafia: ZBiR Artanis[Xp] HeRoS)Pink Lenwe BloodyC0bbler
Mynock posted the same info before he died.
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On November 13 2008 12:02 ulszz wrote: honestly that plexa fusionsdf convo looks so fuckin staged. i wouldn't be surprised if both were mafia...
i vote to lynch plexa
edit- add convo If it's staged it's in really really really really bad humour. To the point where I would not respect Plexa. I sincerely hope you are kidding (which is also in bad humour).
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Those of you voting for one person- it's actually easier for DTs to check a list with like 4-5 people. Change your votes to one person, please. I suggest MTF, Plexa, or myself, since we have two apiece already.
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UGH. I am incredibly sorry ZBiR. RIP. I really thought you were mafia. On the bright side, the list is shortened. Anyway. My DT/Jack tells me that fusionsdf is townie/role. So if you have a role, PM it to him and/or nightmare. Between them we can organize DTs, Vigis, and Jacks in order to snipe some mafia off. If they hit a mad hatter it's pretty clutch for us, I'd say. Watch your step, mafia!
Effffff...... again SO sorry. Apologies to everyone who bandwagoned- I REALLY thought ZBiR was mafia. You have to admit he was acting really defensively. I feel sooooo bad. Honestly. Effffff....
Personally I'll advocate that Vigis hit Lenwe and heros)pink. But tbh, I'm with nightmare. Sometimes our first impressions are off, and it's unfortunate. But these suggestions come from a purely statistical standpoint. Not an emotional/behavioural one.
Also, DTs have great lists to work off of at this point. Let's try to consolidate as a town. We've seen that being unco-operative only leads to division.
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For sake of not editing my post, let's hope the other vigi/jack takes heros)pink, (you know who you are you're the one who didn't PM araav). I certainly trust bloodyc0bbler as well. (Artanis not as much but he's just been so nice so far)
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