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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 08 2008 21:25 GMT
#1333
I'm looking more at the neighbor thing

38. Amber[LighT]
39. Fishball
40. Falcynn

Maybe?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
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November 08 2008 21:28 GMT
#1336
Out of curiosity XCetron why didn't you vote?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
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Last Edited: 2008-11-08 21:40:55
November 08 2008 21:40 GMT
#1341
On November 09 2008 06:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:
* Denotes people who didn't vote on Day 1

1.imDerek*
6. XCetron
19. araav
33. Yogurt
37. KH1031*
43. Plexa
44. KF91
45. FakeSteve[TPR]
49. [GiTM]-Ace
50. G.s)NarutO

Only two people have never voted even once. That's not overly helpful since it will be hard to formulate clues based upon their user names. Derek is easier than KH at least.


KH1031 voted.
I get Yogurt for my list.
EDIT: and imderek
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-08 21:45:26
November 08 2008 21:44 GMT
#1346
Well araav intended to vote, so I'll take him off my list, at least unofficially.
If we count abstinence as not voting, we add FakeSteve to the list. EDIT: and kf91
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 08 2008 23:46 GMT
#1369
On November 09 2008 07:48 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2008 06:53 Mandalor wrote:
On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.

Another person should soon confirm the same message.

Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia.

I'm somewhat busy atm, so I will post more later (including some psychoanalysis of Ace's posts ).


Why don't you stick to the plan? This is a stupid move, seriously.
1. The 2/7 list alone doesn't help. We need more lists to compare that with and more clues to nail the mafia on the list with.
2. You're drawing a huge crosshair on your chest. No matter if the information is correct or not, you will most likely die soon. Mafia will kill you soon because a) they will try to prevent us from spreading dt information or b) it will make the list check look legit if it was a mafioso who pmed you.

If you die (and you're going to die), this is bad news for the town, because at this point we cannot verify if your information is correct and the dt will not be able to pm you additional information.

I'm going to post the plan once again since it seems like some people didn't bother reading it:

1. If you're a detective or a jack
- If you feel like you want to check a suspicious player and he turns out to be townie, pm him his and your role and any list checks you did. If you're in contact with another townie, also tell the 2 each other's names and roles. Don't pull a folca and publish the list checks yourself unless everybody you're in contact with is dead and you have a reasonable amount of information.

2. If you're a townie who received a pm by a detective/jack
- Don't say anything. There is no reason for you to believe the information is valid. Only publish it if the detective died and turns out to be blue.

This was a dumb move, Mynock, or some mafia ploy I cannot grasp right now.

On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Another person should soon confirm the same message.


Other person if you read this: Please don't.


its best for us to keep mynock alive as long as possible without following his advice until after he dies (unless it makes sense to for another reason, like clues)


If there is another person, they SHOULD post considering it would further enhance Mynock's validity, no?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 09 2008 06:28 GMT
#1392
Whoa HELLO. Good job vigis.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 09 2008 06:36 GMT
#1401
If we do this correctly killing power will be down to three today. That's HUGE.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 07:44:26
November 09 2008 07:38 GMT
#1413
On November 09 2008 16:36 randombum wrote:
I'm feeling a town victory here.... the only dead blue is the one the townie lynched LOL.

Law of averages means they hit a crapload of blues one day. Hence why we need to get this day very accurate- killing power goes to three.
EDIT: bit --> hit
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 09 2008 07:47 GMT
#1416
On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.

Another person should soon confirm the same message.

Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia.

I'm somewhat busy atm, so I will post more later (including some psychoanalysis of Ace's posts ).


Let us not forget this. Why else would mafia target Mynock? I really don't think it's a "well they're trying to trick us into thinking that the message was legit etc etc..." I think it was because they needed him to shut up ASAP. Two people are gone from the decafchicken day 2 list, leaving us with 2/5.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 09 2008 21:00 GMT
#1448
GJ medics for not targeting Mynock, too. But I hope you guys are still active. (One of you saved fusion? Or he's a Vet?)
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 09 2008 23:27 GMT
#1466
On November 10 2008 08:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2008 08:09 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On November 09 2008 20:33 Scorch wrote:
On November 09 2008 06:28 Mynock wrote:
Alright people, listen up: I've got information from a detective regarding the last vote tally, and it seems that out of the people who voted for decafchicken, 2 are mafia.

Another person should soon confirm the same message.

Now, we obviously can't be 100% that the information is correct, but I think it's somewhat safe to assume it is, since role-claiming, especially an important role like a DT, would be a pretty stupid move by mafia.

That would be
    Mandalor
    ZBiR
    Artanis[Xp]
    HeRoS)Pink
    Amber[LighT]
    Lenwe
    BloodyC0bbler
Since Mynock is innocent too, his information seems quite reliable. A mafia could have claimed DT towards him, but that's very risky and thus unlikely.
So we have a great 2 mafia out of 5 (40%):
    ZBiR
    Artanis[Xp]
    HeRoS)Pink
    Lenwe
    BloodyC0bbler
BloodyC0bbler seems to be high on everybody's suspect list for various reasons, so he should be killed soon too.


What doesn't make sense is why the mafia would kill 2 people on that list. Mandalor was making some good posts, but Amber?

How about this scenario:
Mafia claims he's a DT and messages Mynock about the decaf list. Mynock posts the information he received and becomes an obvious target, hopefully drawing medic protection. Mafia takes a risk with the suicide bomber to get some medics.


Now, how much of a risk is claiming to be a detective when you're going to kill the person you told the next night? It's extremely unlikely that Mynock was going to out the informant, and now he's dead. Although they're obviously hoping that Mynock doesn't just PM someone now. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take that chance.

It would make sense that nemy suicided himself as part of a plan and not just as an opportunity, but perhaps the mafia thought the alliteration clues were going to nail him?


I agree with this interpretation (we still cant say for sure)

which is why I think we should avoid acting on that list if we have better alternatives


I still think acting on that list is our best chance. What other alternatives do we have? (It's not rhetorical, I'm actually asking for your input). Clue analysis?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 10 2008 00:05 GMT
#1470
Any split list nightmare?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 04:30:55
November 10 2008 01:54 GMT
#1485
## I vote to lynch MidnightGladius

I can change it later if we need to split.

EDIT: change vote.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 10 2008 02:35 GMT
#1489
On November 09 2008 15:25 Chuiu wrote:

Far behind Mynocks house Yogurt and Mandalor went clue hunting. They spotted a set of foot prints, which perked their curiosity since only one mafia was at the scene of the crime. Following the set downhill they came across two individuals. Before either towns person could inquire about their presence behind Mynocks house both individuals charged towards them. With no weapons between them two fist fights broke out. Yogurt tripped his opponent and went to grab him on the ground except his hand was burned by his opponent. Clutching it in pain his defense was down and he paid greatly for it. His opponent tripped him also to the ground and quickly got up to his feet, with time to spare he picked the best place to strike and crushed Yogurt's chest. Mandalor was having just as little luck with his opponent and things got worse when it turned into a knife fight. His agile opponent grabbed Mandalor on the shoulder and pulled him close as he plunged the dagger in one side of Mandalors stomach. To finish Mandalor off he pulled the blade all the way to the other end of his stomach.



For those who don't know, a gladius is a small dagger or knife. It's a stretch, but it's just a little bit more to convince me, for now.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 10 2008 03:20 GMT
#1505
On November 10 2008 11:52 fusionsdf wrote:
IMPORTANT NEWS

someone has PMed me claiming to be a detective, and they used a role check on fanatacist

he is mafia

(if you believe the PM, which I do, since mafia doesnt gain a ton by faking it)

so do we switch votes tonight, or lynch midnight gladius and lynch fanatacist tomorrow?

tl;dr: fanatacist is mafia


I say we get fanatacist. Mafia has nothing to gain from this except maybe ONE extra kill, as if fanatacist is green, whoever PMed you is obviously mafia. Since the DT is using you as a mouth, there is less risk than with the Folca situation.
## I change my vote from MidnightGladius to fanatacist
If a vigi thinks MidnightGladius is mafia, he will be hit anyway. Mafia has almost nothing to gain from telling fusion this.
Also by doing this, fusion can spill who the "DT" is if fanatacist is green. Then a vigi hits MidnightGladius hopefully.
Since MidnightGladius is only based on clues, we may as well wait a night and get another clue from Chuiu to doubletriplequadcheck.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 04:26:45
November 10 2008 04:21 GMT
#1535
On November 10 2008 12:44 MidnightGladius wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

## Voting fanatacist.

Can you change the formatting of this so Chuiu finds this?
EDIT: Thanks.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 10 2008 04:30 GMT
#1542
On November 10 2008 13:25 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
### I change my vote to Fanatacist

the attitude speaks for itself. If fanatacist was a townie, he would rather make sure the town get a hold on fusion or the "DT" that pm'ed him. Instead of fighting desperately for his life.

Mafia cant risk helping him out because they would be revealed as well.

Sorry fanatacist, if you're town, you'll be sacrificed to a greater good.


Exactly this.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 10 2008 19:35 GMT
#1569
On November 11 2008 03:44 MTF wrote:
If Fanatacist doesn't turn up red, I hope Fusion survives to tell us who the DT was.


Fusion will tell us before the night cycle is finished, presumably.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 10 2008 21:16 GMT
#1572
On November 11 2008 06:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 04:35 mikeymoo wrote:
On November 11 2008 03:44 MTF wrote:
If Fanatacist doesn't turn up red, I hope Fusion survives to tell us who the DT was.


Fusion will tell us before the night cycle is finished, presumably.


I'll tell you before the day cycle i.e after the lynch, but before mafia can do hits

of course thats only if he somehow turns up green or something


Yeah that's what I meant.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
November 11 2008 01:54 GMT
#1575
Pleeeeeease be red please be red please please please
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