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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 15 2008 17:11 GMT
#227
I like the new roles added [: Let's get this going!
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 20 2008 22:37 GMT
#1637
I think both Ace and randombum made the right move here. There is no need to excessively judge them - just read Mynock's reasoning on this following page [last post]:

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=75&topic_id=67925

Any plain townies upset over this need to realize the inactivity + randomness + lack of a reason to pardon the lynch. Randombum and Ace are in this together right now, why would one try to counter the actions of another at this stage? Inactive players add nothing beneficial even if they are blue name, but if they were mafia it would have undoubtedly benefitted. So I think the risk was well-placed.

Any mafia that are getting upset over this are just stupid. Maybe they are putting on an act to be upset, hmm?
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 21 2008 16:59 GMT
#1750
On March 22 2008 01:53 Showtime! wrote:
Why are you digging yourself into a bigger hole Heros?

One thing is certain, we need bigger clues.

This many people + this much time between days = mass (needless) speculation, for sure.

I think we are all just waiting until the next day [:
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 22 2008 02:41 GMT
#1803
On March 22 2008 11:39 wurm wrote:
lol. hey hey hey.. pretty soon i won't be a drone. Hopefully..

It's not just post count.

You might become a lock or a nuke soon if you post like this though, especially when the OP asked for no spam.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 22 2008 04:39 GMT
#1819
On March 22 2008 13:34 SonuvBob wrote:
Ok, something ain't right. 2 mad hatters and a jack dead already.

Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 24 2008 14:30 GMT
#2444
On March 24 2008 23:25 GeneralStan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2008 16:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On March 24 2008 15:31 Kau wrote:
Dr.Dragoon
Kuja900

Ninja4ever.
Chezinu

zeks
rpf

Hittegods
KF91

str
BlindAlbino

nemY
BuGzlToOnl

Kuja900
Dr.Dragoon

French_Toast
MoRe_mInErAls

xDark.Carnivalx
HeRoS)Pink

So would it be worth it to check these people with a detective (asking how many mafia members voted for _____)?


worth a few investigations I believe


Dumb idea.

I'm not going to go so far as to say you're worth an investigation (though I have my suspicions).

The Mafia wouldn't waste their effort scattering votes on random individuals, putting themselves to scrutiny.

You can make the counter argument, "But they would want us not to suspect them. They know the townies would say 'that's too obvious!', which is dumb. By any measure of smart play, the Mafiosos either voted Ghar or Mandalor


You can't say that the Dr. Dragoon vs. Kuja900 voting isn't comical, though xD
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 25 2008 00:29 GMT
#2596
On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 08:48 G.s)NarutO wrote:
This game is so difficult-_-


Difficult? All we have to do is sit here and let ace lead us to victory. We don't have to do anything anymore. DTS + Ace= winning the game for us, all we have to do is vote for whom he says to vote. If anything its too easy and has become boring.

Analysis made by townies can still be very useful. As a pardoner, your role could also be used effectively. The reason we follow Ace isn't just because he is mayor, it's because he has the best plan right now - that doesn't mean that it can't run into complications, or that there aren't things that you or anyone else could do to make it more efficient. If you lean back and kick your shoes off and don't try to be constructive, of course this game won't be fun and will be too easy, given the fine leadership shown by Ace.

By the way, I don't mean you in the sense that it's just YOU, randombum. I meant it as a universal "you," if you get what I'm saying. I'm foreign so it's hard for me to explain myself Dx Sorry.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 25 2008 17:54 GMT
#2768
I agree with Ace's decision to lynch or leave wurm to die. Townies that try to separate from the herd just because they want to have "fun" are as useless to the town's cause as the Mafia is. Even if wurm is a medic and even if he made a proper save, not complying with the town's plans that have worked well so far out of selfish reasons is a free radical that isn't needed for the town's victory. People who cause internal strife or oppose the greater good should be removed.

On a similar note, I am getting pretty sick of having to sift through pages of 3 people (you know who you are) just spamming inebriated or plain stupid messages to each other, some of them being incriminating or pointedly obscure. Either you work for the town or you work against the town, don't try to be mysterious or stupid just because you feel it makes the game more enjoyable for you - it's selfish, it's foolish, it's not beneficial to anyone. I agree with whoever said that these people should die, regardless of their worth. Their worth is lost in the dozens of shit posts they make that stirr up trouble or misdirection among their allies.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 25 2008 18:06 GMT
#2770
On March 26 2008 03:03 qrs wrote:
I don't think there is a strong enough case to lynch wurm over Ghar. As far as leaving him to die, does anyone think the Mafia will kill him if they know that we will lynch him tomorrow?
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2008 02:53 Showtime! wrote:
Um, we have a lot more than just 2 verified.

lol
Showtime!, what are you talking about?

I didn't necessarily say that it should be wurm > ghar for lynching, I am just stating that I disagree with people defending him (and other individuals of similar mindset).
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 25 2008 19:39 GMT
#2774
On March 26 2008 04:29 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2008 02:54 fanatacist wrote:
I agree with Ace's decision to lynch or leave wurm to die. Townies that try to separate from the herd just because they want to have "fun" are as useless to the town's cause as the Mafia is. Even if wurm is a medic and even if he made a proper save, not complying with the town's plans that have worked well so far out of selfish reasons is a free radical that isn't needed for the town's victory. People who cause internal strife or oppose the greater good should be removed.

On a similar note, I am getting pretty sick of having to sift through pages of 3 people (you know who you are) just spamming inebriated or plain stupid messages to each other, some of them being incriminating or pointedly obscure. Either you work for the town or you work against the town, don't try to be mysterious or stupid just because you feel it makes the game more enjoyable for you - it's selfish, it's foolish, it's not beneficial to anyone. I agree with whoever said that these people should die, regardless of their worth. Their worth is lost in the dozens of shit posts they make that stirr up trouble or misdirection among their allies.

Looks like someone doesn't have a very good sense of humor. So far, you're the only one who's stepped up to complain about that. Keep in mind some of us townies actually liked the humor Shallow and Showtime! threw up. Heck, even Ace had a few chuckles here and there when we poked at him partying too much.

I've seen comments and quotes from people saying "Please kill Showtime!" and the like.

There is a difference between something being funny, which is welcome and okay, to a good 5 pages in a row, more than 50% of which were posts adding nothing, made by the same few people. It gets old, fast. Drunken humor only lasts so long.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 25 2008 19:57 GMT
#2778
On March 26 2008 04:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
fanaticist, if you feel I'm so detrimental to my allies, vote to lynch me.

I'll vote for whom I was assigned to vote, for the greater good of the town.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 26 2008 01:13 GMT
#2814
On March 26 2008 09:38 qrs wrote:
So what were your notes on me, Ace?

Why can't everyone just wait until the end of the game so that there wouldn't be a need to post them separately each time someone asks?
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 26 2008 20:00 GMT
#2925
On March 27 2008 04:08 SonuvBob wrote:
Nothing has happened. Do what Ace tells you to do.

And complain about it even though you can still help by providing ideas for the plan, analyzing clues, and in spite of the fact that it works.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 27 2008 03:06 GMT
#2977
So how and when do we find out Suspect #1 and #2, Ace? I'm sure you will have to announce it here, since so many are voting for them, and there is not much anyone can do to prevent the lynchings anyways (except randombum who I doubt will interfere).
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-27 18:16:08
March 27 2008 18:10 GMT
#3157
I agree that wurm should be lynched. The point of the game is for the town to unify and cooperate to win. Even if wurm did not want to send his role or follow the plan, he could have done SOMETHING cooperative, being that he IS on the side of town.... Or at least that is what logic would dictate. Since that is not what happened, I feel safe in the assertion that he is either mafia, or at the very least he is detrimental to the unity of the town and should be lynched.

As for Showtime!, I am quite curious as well as to why we need him, considering all the noise he makes. He says a lot about various clues, but is never explicit, so I assume he must be reporting directly to Ace. This would actually make sense, as being too correct in his accusations in public could lead to his death in a single night. If that's the case, then all the more power to him, just I wish he would change his mannerisms about it. Another theory I have is that he PRETENDS to be someone important, so that the mafia targets him, while Ace gives him protection, therefore seconding the notion that he SEEMS important, which would misguide the mafia. There is no harm in saying this because the mafia would not know which of these is the truth - but on the other hand, we don't either.

Summary: Lynch wurm for insubordination and going against the greater good of the town, save Showtime! because even though he is annoying (to put it nicely), he seems to have contributed already, whether it be due to his role or his pretending to have a role. Either way, Ace does not seem to want him gone - and I trust Ace, who is a confirmed townie and so far a successful mayor.

I stated my logic here so that other townies can see my perspective, and perhaps agree, so that we can be more unified and cooperative, and thus more efficient at eliminating mafia scum [:

What are your guys' views on this?

EDIT:
P.S.: Showtime!, as I have stated, I suspect you are of value to the town... Please don't ruin this by being racist, even if it remotely relates to a clue (i.e., saying towelhead to wurm). I am pretty sure people have gotten banned for similar outbursts in the past, and if you are of value, it would be a shame to lose you.


As for the poll, I vote to check the clue linking Ghar to the severed head, as Shallow said. I'd also like to see wurm lynched, as stated above.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 27 2008 18:18 GMT
#3161
On March 28 2008 03:16 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2008 03:15 Last Romantic wrote:
I vote b)


Sonofabitch :p

It's okay, we're 2-1-0 for now, us in favor.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 27 2008 18:55 GMT
#3168
On March 28 2008 03:53 Lenwe wrote:
Showtime! isn't the only one who has been annoying so far though, Wurm however is the only player reported by Ace to not cooperate with his plan, thus hurting the town.

= My response to Shallow.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 27 2008 19:02 GMT
#3170
On March 28 2008 03:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2008 03:55 fanatacist wrote:
On March 28 2008 03:53 Lenwe wrote:
Showtime! isn't the only one who has been annoying so far though, Wurm however is the only player reported by Ace to not cooperate with his plan, thus hurting the town.

= My response to Shallow.


Hey cool, now I'm twice as convinced!

I quoted it before I saw your post, and since it seemed you were responding to me, I felt it'd be proper to second this. When I posted it, I saw your response, so whatever.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 29 2008 14:37 GMT
#3439
A lot of votes are in the wrong place - People, please change your votes now to follow in accordance to the plan.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 30 2008 07:25 GMT
#3522
The medic had to go. The green was a learning experience.

You can't take anything away from Ace in this turn of events, given the nature of the clues (Ghar) and the circumstances (wurm). We have a lot to work with now due to the plan. Have faith.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 31 2008 03:45 GMT
#3542
Let's have a new election?
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 31 2008 04:19 GMT
#3545
Not an official mayor, but Ace can turn over responsibilities and valuable information to a chosen second-in-command because of his absence. He will still be the official mayor and will have to do mayorly things, but other than that...
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
April 03 2008 07:20 GMT
#3627
On April 03 2008 15:43 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Well, since Showtime died, I'm guessing we're looking for someone who hated him and just wanted to kill him to put a stop to his incessant postings.

So like 90% of the town is under suspicion now right?
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
April 03 2008 07:23 GMT
#3630
On April 03 2008 15:37 Pangolin wrote:
So Showtime! didn't have a special role? Pretty good trick if you ask me.

I hypothesized this earlier... And he confirmed it... Too late to start realizing things about that now lol.
Peace~
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