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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 18 2008 02:47 GMT
#286
I thought that was the role PM as well.

Got my hopes up :/
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 18 2008 23:07 GMT
#737
It was also very apparent to outsiders that Dr. Dragoon was completely innocent.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 18 2008 23:21 GMT
#748
I don't particularly care that Empyrean is selfish. If it's the kind of selfishness that helps the town win, then I think it's fine. It's more a question of how credible he is, and to me, he's completely honest. Same for you Ace, but I voted for Empyrean because of his detective role.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 18 2008 23:35 GMT
#760
On March 19 2008 08:25 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 08:21 LucasWoJ wrote:
Same for you Ace, but I voted for Empyrean because of his detective role.


None of us can prove that he is the Detective. Basically, it's all going off of his wording and that we should trust him. That is a MAJOR problem for the Town.



It's a little bit more than his word. Based on his response to speculations about his role, I cannot see him being a mafioso.

However, I'm beginning to see what you're arguing by saying it was selfish. By saying he's a detective, he's forced the town to take a risk, no matter what we do. If we don't him in as mayor, and he was a detective, the we lose a valuable role. If he is in the mafia and we DO vote him in as mayor, then...well, that's not desirable to say the least.

Either way (voting for him, or not voting for him), you're taking a risk, which is something someone may have wanted to avoid in the mayoral elections. I can see that as a valid point to abstain from voting, but to me, the risk of Empyrean being mafia is not too high.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 18 2008 23:48 GMT
#776
On March 19 2008 08:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Well even if empyrean is telling a lie he's more clean than Ace (for me), Ace was defending Ghar's point of view (another candidate) + Ghar have clues against him, and the mafia has probably sent 2 candidates for the mayor's position and that could be the reason why Ghar was ready to give up his votes to Ace
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 01:28 Ghar wrote:
For people that might have missed my plans as mayor, the link is in my profile page.
And I support Ace. Don't know if he's towny or not, but we think alike. So should I end up not getting enough votes, Ace would make a nice alternative if we need to combine votes to win.

Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town.
-Pink


Considering you have "Pink" in your name, you just made me question whether Empyrean is really part of mafia or not.

Are you saying that because they agree on a position that works, they're both part of mafia? Eh? Makes no sense to me.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 18 2008 23:58 GMT
#787
Wow, you shouldn't have revealed that. That's an incredibly thoughtful idea. I guess it sorta confirms your allegiance to the town thinking up that idea.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 19 2008 00:35 GMT
#820
OO

That is a big hole in the plan.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 19 2008 01:16 GMT
#857
On March 19 2008 10:14 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Oh my god 49 pages already
What page does the game start?


18
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 19 2008 03:40 GMT
#926
On March 19 2008 12:26 ahrara_ wrote:
Shallow, on this page alone you have three posts that pretty much contribute nothing. I'm sure everybody appreciates your clue analysis from before, but the pointless one liners are annoying. There are enough posts to wade through already, and you've made 20 or so such posts already today. Please stop.


I actually find a lot of his one liners pretty funny.


I suggest all of us go back and re-read the topic, especially anything concerning Empyrean. As we get further and further from his defense posts, it becomes easier and easier to forget about how credible it seemed of him to be a detective. I'm trying to do this with an open mind, and his defense of himself leads me to believe that he is a detective.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 20 2008 18:29 GMT
#1534
Stalling for time? If he everyone to send him a PM with their roles except for mafia, we know who mafia is. If he receives too many PMs in one sections, we get suspects. Townies all have roles they can play by, mafia will either have to lie and might get caught, or not send a PM and get exposed that way.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 20 2008 18:37 GMT
#1536
It would still help with the slightest screw-up from the mafia. Say four detectives send a PM to Ace revealing their roles. One mafioso decides to become a detective for the sake of the PM. Bam, we've got a smaller suspect list. It's easier to look into the Day posts and find clues for 5 people than 130.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 20 2008 22:54 GMT
#1644
Jeez, it sounds like you're against the town winning. If it's by the rules, why complain about what you feel is inevitable victory? Sure sounds like your against the interest of the town. It sounds like you're a mafioso who's having trouble deciding on what to do.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 22 2008 13:17 GMT
#1926
On March 22 2008 20:29 Plexa wrote:
This is really clutching at straws but i suspect LucasWoJ
Lucas -> George Lucas and WoJ -> Warriors of Justice, something starwars affiliated
The justice side of things seem to coincide with Wolf's respectful side of things and that he is doing this for a just casue. While the made his mark clue leads on to the fact that he is WoJ. That in addition to his low activity between day 1-day2 leads me to beleive that he is Wolf.


WoJ doesn't stand for Warriors of Justice, but even if it did, it would be ridiculous for Chuiu to decide that that's what it stands for. I can follow your accusations until the "made his mark" clue, Warriors of Justice aside, but I can't even defend "make your mark" because it seems so random. What's the reasoning behind the "meet your mark" leading to me"?

I think that's completely far fetched, and is not a clue in my direction.

I understand we're just shooting for anything here, but that accusation is just ridiculous and faulty (and Ace asked us not too). Assume a clue read "And he yelled loudly..." To imitate what you just did, I could turn around and say that this clue points to Shallow[bay] since bay stands for BrothersAreYelling. He must be the Yeller! Excluding his day 1 posts, his posts also added nothing except confusion within the town (I don't actually believe that; if anyone had any problems with his posts, they should've just read past them.)

Lastly Plexa, I'm not sure why anyone would even make such wild accusations. Why even bother convincing the town of something that seems skeptical to you?
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 22 2008 13:24 GMT
#1928
Also since it popped into my head, the smiley face reference does not necessarily refer to the profile. As Chuiu said, it can point to posts as well. I know I was wondering why some people had used so many smileys so often in their posts.

Let's be careful when we convict anyone based solely on that clue alone. It can already lead to two people just by examining everyone's quote (and definitely more by looking through their profile) and if look at anything else, the suspect list is definitely going to grow.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 22 2008 13:28 GMT
#1929
On March 22 2008 22:20 Camlito wrote:
What does WoJ stand for?

That's irrelevant. Still, it used to stand for WaysoftheJedi, but once again, Chuiu could not even begin to assume that. Now that clan is long gone
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 22 2008 13:55 GMT
#1933
Yes, but I'd like to establish myself as innocent from the beginning.

If I was to come out with a post that only said "I am not mafia. That clue is stupid." I would have rightly been met with a "That's very suspicious"

--- I can see how you used Warriors of Justice. I guess Chuiu does that a lot, but I still don't get the "make your mark" part.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 22 2008 17:26 GMT
#1973
On March 23 2008 02:04 Empyrean wrote:
No one else thinks the buckshot/eating lead/etc. clues link to

Caller's signature of "Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead"?


Actually, I thinl that it's the best clue we have. Chuiu repeated the lead reference twice, so I am almost positive it's some sort of a clue. My personal opinion is that it's the strongest clue we have, since most of the other ones are really just hit/miss + hope you get something good. The cellphone clue just strengthens our case against Caller.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 22 2008 22:30 GMT
#2032
You just woke up? What time is it where you are? (I'm looking at the "United States" part and laughing).
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 23 2008 20:04 GMT
#2135
Yeah, anyone pointing fingers at Ace is arousing my suspicions of being in the mafia. By not sending in the PMs, you're hurting the entire town. Anyone questioning Ace's trustworthiness should stop. If you haven't been following the thread and decided to read the last few posts, wrong move. Re-read the threat or go to falcyn's blog.

Requesting that a detective speak is just plain stupid too...Reread the thread, all of this was covered already.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
March 23 2008 20:11 GMT
#2139
On March 24 2008 05:07 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
rolf, this mayor is a joke, theres like 6-7 hours left for the vote and still nothign from him, poeple will not check 1 hour before the final countdown to see who to vote, (some poeple will probably be away since its Easter's holiday)so theres a huge chance that Ghar will be lynched (which i dont think is that bad atm since theres alots of clues toward him)


That's why he asked us the retract our votes, that way, those that are on will vote for whom we know is mafia.

Ace knows what he's doing. Give him a chance. It seems that no matter who is mayor, there's always a group of people willing to give him a hard time. Calm down, we're in good hands.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
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