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On March 15 2008 12:03 HotZhot wrote: Damn this is going to be long, hasn't even started and is already 11 pages long ^^
I know, and I'm so excited that I keep checking back hoping the game has started. It sucks because i've been recovering from wrist surgery this week and haven't had much to do, so this would be like the most exciting thing on my agenda
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Ok, I just read like 20+ pages of this stuff. How is Empyrean getting this many votes? As many has said before me his roleclaiming really puts the town on the spot, and we are forced to either vote for him or protect him. A DT will probably even investigate Empyrean to confirm this, wasting another ability. Really though Ace and Empyrean have run away with the vote count, which is understandable regarding the former. But I can't help but feel that someone like randombum, who has so far said nothing brash and reckless, is better suited for the position as Pardoner.
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On March 20 2008 07:01 Wysp wrote: I just want to comment, we can't go crazy with detective role checking. Only get a couple shots with it and there are plenty of people.
Keep in mind we also have Jacks, that's 2 more DT's when needed. The more I think about it, Jack is a very very powerful role.
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On March 20 2008 11:28 Yogurt wrote: how do we guarantee who the detectives are again?
imo if the mafia was smart, they would have 1 or two claim the detective roles to cause a lot of confusion and stall while townies died, even if they got lynched in the end
detective checks Ace, and then PM's Ace if ace is green/blue. so silence from detectives indicates that ace is not a mafia. from there ace builds the network, as he knows who the DT's are and so they can work through him without speaking in the open. If Ace is mafia (which would be awful for the town), detective has to speak up so ace can be lynched. then we are down a detective and a mayor, and in a tough spot indeed.
if the mafia are roleclaiming a detective, ace will know since there will be 5 detectives PMing him, unless a detective is inactive.
i think that's the plan, If I misunderstood something please someone correct me
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incontrol... really? i guess he is confrontational, but just watch him be a blue -_-
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On March 20 2008 13:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Bravo Ace. Bravo. Now who's going to upload replays for us?
romad?
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On March 21 2008 00:33 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 00:18 Naib wrote:On March 21 2008 00:11 fusionsdf wrote:On March 21 2008 00:07 Naib wrote:On March 21 2008 00:03 fusionsdf wrote: so......
we are lynching quiet people to force them to post?
Do you realize how useless a strategy that is?
No, no, no and again a NO! That is not a strategy! That is a strategy for the first lynch only and nothing else. I feel I explained it quite well, feel free to read it all again (Ace can back it up of course, I bet he can form better arguments seeing English is his first language, and not mine ) It doesnt matter what lynching it is its still stupid especially when you have a gift like empyrean A "gift" oh yeah. Definitely. I'd really suggest you to read through the thread again. You obviously dont understand what is going on in this game, so you might as well stop this If you had an argument you would offer it instead of useless sarcasm
In his defense, you aren't offering much of an argument either; you didn't even explain your post. Was qrs correct in interpreting what you meant? I have a hard time seeing what sort of gift Empyrean is (besides to the mafia, perhaps, as I for one do not believe he is guaranteed green), but it's possible that I'm miunderstanding something here.
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I think I'm going to go watch Reservoir Dogs. I'll get to see a classic and even understand these code names better
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On March 21 2008 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2008 01:29 qrs wrote: Wow, relax, ~OpZ~. I wasn't attacking you; I was just pointing you to where the information could be found. The last edit to the OP was yesterday. ...then he could just bomb the mayor, get all 4 detectives, and call it a night, eh? Now plz...If you want to call me an idiot, lets take it to PM's and stop cluttering the thread.
Just as an aside, I'm fairly positive bomber can't kill a detective like that. Medics, yes, but they shouldnt be protecting Ace anyway.
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On March 22 2008 15:06 Falcynn wrote:Ok, I just want to tell something to the mafia. I asked Chuiu and he says if I die I can continue updating my blog as long as I keep it unbiased. So if you guys put a hit on me because of that, too bad. Even if you succeeded you wouldn't stop me p p Edit: still got 6 pages to read.
well, now we know one person who was targeted that didn't die. this wasn't a very smart post of you to make IMO... it really seems out of character for you.
it also seems to follow the trend that the mafia seem to be targeting active, thoughtful posters. although neax and goldenkrnboi are exceptions, perhaps they were killed to throw us off?
i'm going to bed... will catch up on clues with you guys tomorrow.
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Ok, well then. If Mandalor is up to the chopping block, then so be it. gg no re!
i'll do my top clues/suspects, like ace asked before: 1. Ghar, obviously, because of the picture and his signature.
2. 44-str. im assuming str = strength? this could have something to do with the streetfight. also his sig is "no units = no power," and the power to the electronics in the house was cut off. The streetfight could also be connected to Hittegods signature, "This street violence, pure self defiance." The electronics jamming could also point to Energies, who is Australian (just like Taipan Snake).
3. On March 22 2008 14:43 butidigress wrote: "to attack the three men ... finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back.
kau: born 3/31/87 joined tl 3/31/07 name is three letters long
awful lot of threes if you ask me... what he said . 4. Eddie = LostYourSkills. other people have pointed this out, specifically the "lucky" connection betwen his sig and Eddie.
I'm not totally sure about guys like Heros)Pink or French_Toast, but I've got no issue with offing them if they keep being disruptive. Heros)Pink is still a possibility, albeit an obvious one, for Mr. Pink, though. Also, did we ever decide anything about Empyrean?
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On March 24 2008 12:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2008 12:38 qrs wrote: Why keep responding to HeRoS? Whether he's Mafia or town, he's just cluttering up the thread. + Show Spoiler +Couldn't resist. We have to find some way to keep this bumped until night comes.
like this: bump
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On March 25 2008 12:50 bumatlarge wrote: Heh, we Ace should mark all the blues as suspicious but not proven so the mafia would go for other non-suspicious people.
surely they would never expect your cunning plan now
how long until day post? 24 hrs?
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On March 25 2008 13:01 ~OpZ~ wrote: I've suspected Wurm for a good minute...Dunno why tho...he just hasn't posted, but him abstaining once Ace had PROVEN Mandalor....
that is def odd. i think fusionsdf also did the same thing, but he said it was only because he didn't have time to read the thread, which of course may or may not be true. it would make sense for some mafia to hide in the abstain list to spread their numbers, right? it also exempts them from ace's vote dividing plan, but i'm not sure they would have expected anything like that, and really just abstained to keep mafia count in mandalor's vote lower.
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I resent that. I will defend my American microbreweries (and Sam Adams) until the bitter end!
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holy shit, three blues
time to read this
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Was ShadowDrgn a vigi kill? I don't have Max anywhere as one of the mafia code names.
Also i think the lawn darts are a clue to something... it's such an unusual way to die
e: forgot "as"
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On April 04 2008 02:49 Klive5ive wrote: Nice Ace, good job losing all our detectives.
i'm pretty sure this was beyond his control. i would bet that mafia knew who they were hitting was blue (or at least called empyrean's bluff). i have no idea about new104, if you check the vote threads he voted once but i dont recall ever seeing a post by him. it's either a very lucky guess, or something is amiss (which do you think is more likely?). what we should focus on now are the clues, as with only 1 dt and a jack remaining, the clues will be our strongest hope to catch any mafiasos quickly.
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Ace:
the bumatlarge/randombum clues were from the mafia 'Sidewinder' iirc. I thought we figured out that he was Queasy who was killed?
On April 08 2008 16:29 Scorch wrote: Bumatlarge is probably innocent: the "bum" clue (codename: Sidewinder) was most likely linked to Queasy. See Plexa's post on page 184.
If true, this would mean that the bums are innocent, or at least not linked to that clue
maybe i didn't read what you are saying correctly though, and are just talking about the list and not those clues? im confused
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so i think we should reconstruct the hitlist then
1. bloodycobbler 2. aznvaliance 3. decafchicken 4-8. ???, possibly more decafchickens.
if mafia really did know that decaf was the jack, then it wouldn't unreasonable for them to stack some extra hits on him, in case he had been protected.
so veterans or any protected people should report to Ace if they took any hits last night, this way we get a better idea of the missing spots on the list.
Anyway, now L is very likely to be killed by either group.
i also hope bloodycobbler did not have any kills remaining :\
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On April 17 2008 05:59 Ace wrote: Reconstruct the Mafia Kill list? It's your best bet, but if the Mafia have a constant kill list all you know is that the MAX # of kills could add up to a certain # and know nothing about whether or not that # was used.
If anyone else who was hit this night and lived (a veteran or protected) has reported back to you, we can be for sure to fill in the missing spots on the list as hits on decaf, right? barring the scenario of an inactive vet getting hit, I suppose.
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only 1 blue today. maybe the mafia are running run out of information?
vote patterns of the dead, hopefully i didnt miss any (pls correct me if i did):
if i leave a blank, that person did not vote or abstain that day. + Show Spoiler [Naruto] +Naruto: Day1: randombum Day2: Day3: Day4: d.arkive Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: L
+ Show Spoiler [fusionsdf] +fusionsdf Day1: Plexa Day2: [Abstain] Day3: Ace Day4: Ace Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: crazie-penguin
+ Show Spoiler [useLess] +useLess Day1: Ace Day2: Ghar Day3: Day4: [Abstain] Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: crazie-penguin
+ Show Spoiler [klive5ive] +klive5ive Day1: araav Day2: [Abstain] Day3: smurfingchobo Day4: [Abstain] Day5: Day6:
+ Show Spoiler [Falcynn] +Falcynn Day1: Ace Day2: Mandalor Day3: wurm Day4: [Abstain] Day5: Day6:
+ Show Spoiler [Joxxor] +Joxxor Day1: Ace Day2: [Abstain] Day3: Ghar , bumatlarge Day4: Abstain Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: L
to me it looks like they are targetting mostly people who did not vote on mandalor's list (Falcynn is the exception here). but the people they targeted are still semi-active voters in general. unless one of these persons had 2 hits on them [g.s)Naruto, perhaps] we are still missing a target. ofc Ace most likely knows this already if it was a veteran or protected person that got hit. i think they killed falcynn bcause he was very active early in the game but then he stopped posting it seems, so they killed him before he became active again.
i am surprised mtf and plexa are alive, though
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I suppose i should say something now that i'm being suspected for a couple pages. Although, i realize anything i say will be taken with quite the grain of salt as i am on the showtime and mandalor vote lists - not to mention that this is a mafia game after all .
Anyway, i suppose the connection you guys are talking about is that the guy in my profile pic (he is from the show The Critic, i think) has a blade on his hat that is Cali Mt. Snake's weapon? I suppose i find this somewhat difficult to refute as it does seem to be a legitimate possibility - Cali. Mt. Snake has a hat, the man in my pic also has a hat (a beanie, to be precise) and that's a fact. But we don't know yet if Cali Mt. Snake's weapon actually is his hat, as it has never been stated explicitly. All we know for certain is that his weapon is sharp and that he can throw it (but he doesn't have to), and there are dozens of things which fit that criteria. I think you guys might be jumping to conclusions.
I guess what can I say besides wait for more clues - I think the connection is tenuous at best (of course I would think that;)) and that there are definitely more concrete candidates than me that have been analyzed by Plexa and MTF.
Also, a note on my username that Plexa missed before, just to set the record straight here. It's from the sci-fi novel The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut. In the book theres an outer space phenomenon called a chrono-synclastic infundibulum, defined by the author as "those places ... where all the different kinds of truths fit together." It's a great book, but really i only picked that word as my handle because i think it sounds cool.
edit: i suppose a lot of things, haha
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On May 06 2008 00:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 00:02 qrs wrote:On May 05 2008 11:51 Plexa wrote:On May 05 2008 03:20 Scorch wrote:On May 04 2008 22:08 Plexa wrote:On May 04 2008 21:59 qrs wrote: What is this "controversial list"? oh it basically means that.. + Show Spoiler [innocent] +Pangolin Naib BWDero SoleSteeler (Last Romantic) (Zeks) Ahrara 0cz3c and + Show Spoiler [mafia] + One of;
LostYourSkills vs Lysithea STR vs NatsuTerran vs LTT
And increases the likelihood of GeneralStan Nightmare infinity21
being mafia
Huh? Where does this come from? I'd like to know how you pull such deductions out of your hat. If i revealed it i would be laughed at pm me if you are really curious You can't expect us to take your list seriously if you don't tell us what it's about. If the reason you don't post it is that you would be laughed at, it sounds like it's pretty shaky evidence. who are you to fucking doubt plexa at this stage of the game?
he does have a point though. and if you haven't noticed, qrs has been doing this all game. no need to get hostile.
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I voted Chuiu, just for you
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wow.. plexa strikes again
Just curious, why am i not on your suspect list anymore? Last time i was 40% according to you and now nothing
Also... i don't like the clue analysis for jtan very much. though his posting debut in these recent pages does require to be considered, i suppose. Just that it seems analysed from a perspective like, "if we decide jtan is mafia, we can sorta link x and y to him" rather than "x and y seem to link to jtan." Just my 2c.
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I figured such. Just was confused because you left me out of the other people on the showtime list in that post.
..or perhaps you have already sent the vigilante :s
e: 400 posts wooo!
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On May 11 2008 13:45 Plexa wrote:o shit i did leave you off.. i'll put you back on it
and fix my name meaning while you're at it
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um what
like two days of greens and then suddenly all blues? something's gotta be up
edit: its more like 4-5 days of greens
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i think if plexa or especially ace was mafia, the game would have been over long ago
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On May 20 2008 21:44 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: infundibulum HAS to be california mountain snake:
looking at today's clues, noticehow he uses a swinging (spinning?) metal object to slice hollander's head off. Now look at infundibulum's picture. It's a guy whose hat has an blades spinning around. It sounds to me that he could very probably take his hat off and let the blade slice hollander's head. (plus, it fits they are sharp).
Read the day post, dude.
On May 20 2008 12:48 Chuiu wrote:"...California Mountain Snake grabbed him by the neck and pulled him out and threw him to the ground. He pulled a metal disc and started swinging at Hollander's neck with it."
Cali Mt. Snake's weapon of choice is revealed to be a sharp metal disc. Guy in my profile is wearing a beanie, 2 blades like a helicopter. They're different things, and it seems to me like you're pointing the finger just because we're on the same list, my name has been put out before, and you''re scared of getting lynched.
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Goodnight sweet prince
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i dont understand what is happening
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On June 01 2008 04:32 SoleSteeler wrote: Yikes...
honestly it doesnt matter that we lost ace, town has it won at this point in the game
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where is the post that points bockit as the liar vet?
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rofl "wasting hits on people like rpf"
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well at least suresh0t is active. i have never even seen romance_us post, so i'd rather give the benefit of the doubt to someone who at least has a possibility of being an active townie.
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i thnk rpf was confirmed. at least, he is listed as blue in the plexa master detective list that was leaked
(link)
also im a hydralisk :D
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On June 24 2008 03:16 qrs wrote: What's with Amber[Light] and his abstaining for every single vote?
he's too cool to have an opinion
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On June 27 2008 13:29 Wysp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2008 03:31 qrs wrote:On June 27 2008 02:57 Wysp wrote: On another note: I'd just ignore most of what qrs is says. He's been a cunt and a shit disturber most of the game. Oh, have I? I've refused to take things on faith; that's true enough. I've been right some of the time and wrong some of the time. I've been active throughout the game, unlike you. I won't stoop to insulting you back, but keep your foul language to yourself, please, or at least out of the thread. this is the cuntish shit disturbing I'm talking about. I'm a confirmed townie, and dispite your best efforts mafia have been hung. If I tell you shit (because YOU aren't confirmed,) the operation could very well go foul. If I publicly announce it, it goes foul 100%. Use your brain. You consistantly try to lead people to the worse choice. Do I think its because you're mafia? Not necessarily, you could just be 'dull' (sugar coated enough?)
haha, this is exactly how Ace would post to qrs
coincidence? i think not!
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i gotta say that's an interesting find by qrs. wonder if wysp and co. will take it seriously?
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breaking the chain of dead posts. seriously guys
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ugh a new twist on the clues. i think that
mr. orange = panic
based on the fireworks, but i'm not really sure
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also, "determination and humor?" that doesn't sound very mafia-like to me; i don't think it will be linked through kill style at least.
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i don't see the point of replacing inactive townies with ones that were previously dead nor wth new ones. if that was to be done at any point in the game it should have been done much earlier. at this point everything is winding down anyway.
i do agree that the voting count is ridiculous though. i know i haven't voted yet, but that's because i haven't decided.
i guess we just have to stick it for another game week or so, or wait for mafia to throw in the towel?
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On July 08 2008 05:13 nemY wrote: Why do I get the feeling that the people advocating replacing the inactive townies with fresh people are townies themselves, but the people against this idea are the mafia?
I do think it is funny that dead mafia randombum goes "if anything mafia should win this!," while plexa, scorch and other dead townies go "no way, town should win this by a long shot!"
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JZafia must have hit a vet? The killers tonight I think are Mr. Blue (blades) and Cottonmouth (thrown weapons).
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JZafia = Mafia. weird typo
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qrs, this was my reasoning for voting for randombum:
On March 19 2008 14:10 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I vote for randombum
Ace is far in the lead, and that's a good thing. But Empyrean in the Pardoner position worries me to no end. By voting for randombum, I hope to oust Empyrean from the seat of power which he potentially holds.
on Empyrean, briefly: 1. his roleclaiming puts the town on the spot to make a decision, and we also cannot verify this roleclaim for the time being. this is the biggest worry i have. 2. it makes him a target for mafia and their saboteur, basically it's free information for them. 3. ace doesn't like his ideas, we could have another FS/Tracil snafu. 4. a detective might have to waste a role check on Empyrean due to his claims, losing even more for the town.
Basically i didn't trust Empyrean, and was sure Ace would hold the mayorship without my vote. Randombum was the only other candidate with enough votes to overcome Empyrean (nobody was voting for ghar etc.) I know that this only carries the weight of my word (which probably isn't much) but I also voted for him early on when Empyrean was still around even with Ace and nobody had bandwagoned onto him yet.
Personally i'd rather vote for jtan or CDRdude than myself, especially jtan based on his posting and vote patterns and the lurker connection, plus he's been under consideration for ages and nothing has ever come up to clear him. Then if he turns out to be Mr. Blue, you might have a stronger case against me as Blonde (my profile pic guy has blonde hair and is wearing blue... perhaps i am both people!! )
however, that quote does seem to exonerate ahara_, whom Wysp has been wanting to lynch for a while now
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And yes i just popped out of the woodwork to defend my case. but i suppose i've never had a whole lot to say this game anyhow. the last 2 pages is full of you and ydg tearing it up and i felt sorely outclassed, and before that everyone was arguing about the game i guess
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On July 18 2008 23:15 qrs wrote: Still, I don't say that you're certainly Mafia. Maybe CDRdude was offline at just the wrong time when the Mafia was pushing for randombum. Or maybe the Mafia was afraid that too many people switching their votes at the last second would look suspicious. In any case, as long as the town lynches someone from the showtime list, it's on the right track. If we don't get the mafioso this lynch, we'll surely get him the next.
In any case, it looks like I'm a goner. It was only a matter of time anyway, being on the showtime list and whatnot
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Hm ydg, that does make sense. I'll change my vote to cdrdude, but i don't know if theres enough active voters to switch it.
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Ahrara has been saying shit like that for for a while now. don't know why though; it's pretty clear he isn't actually mafia
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I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasnt for you meddling kids!
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the bandwagon spares no man
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gg guys, i had a blast
Perhaps one of the other mafiosos will make a post about imbaness or whatever - but i am not of that variety. Honestly, i thought we played it pretty well, but made the mistake of stacking too many hits - for example on the detectives etc., we were paranoid and didn't know if you guys were aware of our knowledge of dinmsab etc being DTs. so all those wasted hits really added up late game and came back to bite us in the ass.
There are 2 glaring mistakes i made that i can recall. The first was voting for showtime (i don't even know why, i might have been drunk), which forever cast me on the radar. This was unfortunate since i was pretty sure nobody suspected me beforehand. It also meant qrs and nemy were relatively protected. The second was pinning fanatacist, rather than Energies, as the vigilante Ordell. It took bwdero and myself a long while of analyzing, and utimately it came down to fanatacist was Ordell because Ordell was always running and very enthusiastic - in hindsight, characteristics that fit Energies very well. If we had gotten the vigi right, we would have been able to kill plexa and ace in one night rather than 2. Oh well!
Also, there's a good story about the IRC infiltration - i forget who has it, but hopefully he posts it
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On August 05 2008 04:30 Bill307 wrote:lol @ the screenshot with blue and green townies. Finally the game is over! Sorry I found so many red herrings and got jtan lynched. T___T Once Day 21 came up, I looked at the clues and knew I'd messed up and infunidibulum was actually Mr. Blue. I really want to hear the stories from both sides, though, no matter how long they are!
I thought it was hilarious how hard you pushed for me to be Mr. Blonde and jtan to be lynched, especially after I had advocating lynching jtan before i died in a futile effort to save my skin
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Is it bad that I'm already excited for next game?
also, Ace, those PMs are hilarious to read now that the game is over
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On August 06 2008 06:11 Bill307 wrote: QUESTION FOR BWdero / iNfuNdiBuLuM / KF91 / HotZhot:
After successfully lynching nemy, why did you guys kill off two of the townies who voted for him (thus narrowing our best list of suspects in the end) instead of killing the people who voted for BWdero?
Were you trying to trick the town into thinking the mafia didn't stack the vote against nemy, or thinking bwdero might be innocent since you guys didn't try to silence any of the people who voted for him?
i was the one constructing hitlists at this point. i think i was in a hurry and wanted to kill voting townies while avoiding reducing any detective lists. i didn't really consider the implications of killing those who voted for nemy when i did it :\
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On October 23 2008 09:58 Chuiu wrote: 10/25/08
Signups will open. There will be a cap of 50-60 (I'll let you know when the thread is open) and veteran players will get first dibs. I am not taking advanced signups, you will have to post it in the thread when its open.
hooray, i can't wait!
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