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Now, now, we shouldn't lynch Dr.Dragoon the first chance we get. Unless he's a mafia. But we should probably be nice and let him live for a day or two.
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CDRdude
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==edit== Now, now, we shouldn't lynch Dr.Dragoon the first chance we get. Unless he's a mafia. But we should probably be nice and let him live for a day or two. | ||
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On March 15 2008 15:01 Dapperdan wrote: You guys are going to definitely burn yourselves out very quickly if you start this ranting nonsense before the game even starts. He doesn't believe in us. I think he's mafia  | ||
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CDRdude
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On March 17 2008 05:22 LTT wrote: And in a rare twist, Chuiu decides to make everyone a townie and just kills random people every night. Haha, that would be epic  Or maybe he'll put in two competing mafia groups that don't know about each other and laugh at all the confusion. I'm sure it'll be epic =) | ||
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On March 18 2008 10:02 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: so its the next day did everyone confirm? :D Probably not, but I bet most people did, and those are probably people more likely to be active. | ||
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CDRdude
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Even with this message, I have no real reason to vote for you. As far as I can tell, this is just a gimmick to get more votes. None of your points are actually very useful. Your first point: 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. Okay, so you spend a lot of time one the computer, and you'll double lynch if we ask it. That's nice. First, you mention that you spend a lot of time at home, and we can only assume you mean the computer. Fair enough, but Mafia is not a game that requires a lot of timing, unless perhaps you are mafia organizing to fix an election. I know you aren't mafia though, because I haven't received my role PM yet, so I assume you haven't either. Also, you mention that you'll use double lynch if the town asks you to. Do you think you're the only one? You were in the last game, you saw how quickly we turned on FakeSteve. Even then, he had used double lynches whenever we asked him, and he still got lynched. I seriously doubt there'll be any mayor that won't use a doubly lynch if the town demands it. Governments should be afraid of their people. Your next point: 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) Okay, I've already covered that. You're hardly unique there, any mayor we elect will double lynch if the town asks. 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. That's quite nice of you, but it's hardly unique to mayors. Many townies can, and do, analyze clues and post, regardless of the consequences. Furthermore, if as mayor you do your own analysis, you are likely to be biased in favor of your own conclusions. If you instead weigh all conclusions equally, you can use your extra votes more fairly. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. I call BS. I have no reason to believe that this is an individual PM, hand-crafted for me alone. Your PM is perfect for mailing to a lot of people; it has no specific details, and the 'wisdom' contained is simple enough for anybody to understand. If you really want to show that you care, you have to acknowledge the individual recipient of the PM. For example, I was a paramedic in the last game, and yet you did not mention this to me at all. If you had, it would have been a more tangible human connection than the rest of this PM. By not saying this, I can judge one of two things; this is a stock PM, sent out to every single person on the TL mafia list, or that you did not pay any attention last game. TLers are not, in general, stupid. Most of us, I would hope, can see through this kind of thing very easily. By sending this PM, you demean us (without meaning to, I'll admit that), and don't show any respect for the individual. A good politician can make his constituency think he cares about each of them individually. You have a long way to go yet. Still, props for trying, it's nice that you've made the effort. I might vote for you. Or, I might not, you'll know in a few days. + Show Spoiler [Original Message] + ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice. 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. Thanks, randombum | ||
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CDRdude
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On March 18 2008 12:09 Falcynn wrote: I nominate randombum for mayor! ![[image loading]](http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9612/motivator690178nc0.jpg) Ahahahahha, my least favorite 4chan meme finds it's way to TL mafia >_< Also to randombum: You do get points for trying, I appreciate the effort. The PM needs work though. You could try such tried-and-true lines from the politicians like "I am not a crook", or "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" | ||
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On March 18 2008 14:45 ShadowDrgn wrote: Are the Saboteur and Suicide Bomber included in the 20 mafia, or are there actually 22 mafia total? Do those two roles get to participate as normal in the mafia, and are the mafia aware of their roles? They are included in the mafia (there are 130 people total, 110 town + 20 mafia = 130). I would assume that the mafia know their roles, and they do participate normally in the mafia. | ||
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On March 18 2008 15:52 SonuvBob wrote: I'll vote for anyone who posts all 130 sigs and profiles. Randombum, here's your chance to use your power of Too Much Free Time! Someone already did, but he made them links, so that the post wasn't too long and unwieldy. In fact, it was Chuiu in the OP | ||
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CDRdude
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+ Show Spoiler [List of names] + 1. ShaLLoW[baY] 2. SoMuchBetter 3. Eti307 4. HotZhot 5. Caller 6. clazziquai 7. Dr.Dragoon 9. So no fek 10. Fen 11. ieatkids5 12. Wizard 13. dinmsab 14. imDerek 15. Hittegods 16. Puosu 17. randombum 18. Yogurt 19. ulszz 20. goldenkrnboi 21. Alethios 22. infinity21 23. Falcynn 24. Alventenie 25. Empyrean 26. Fishball 27. nemY 28. ZBiR 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY 30. JeeJee 31. Energies 32. wurm 33. Amber[LighT] 34. RtS)Night[Mare 35. Vharox 36. Unforgiven_ve 37. fgsvsd 38. KF91 39. Romance_us 40. MasterOfChaos 41. LTT 42. SonuvBob 43. NatsuTerran 44. str 45. smurfingchobo 46. aZnvaLiaNce 47. Kuja900 48. qrs 49. GranDim 50. Artanis[Xp] 51. araav 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM 53. Ace 54. MTF 55. MoRe_mInErAls 56. Camlito 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS 58. Lysithea 59. fanatacist 60. SoleSteeler 61. French_Toast 62. BlindAlbino 63. HeRoS)Pink 64. KorvspaD 65. Mandalor 66. fusionsdf 67. 0cz3c 68. New104 69. LucasWoJ 70. Bockit 71. GeneralStan 72. Ziel 73. Hollander 74. Supah 75. bumatlarge 76. jtan 77. BloodyC0bbler 78. BWdero 79. AcrossFiveJulys 80. Siefu 81. Mynock 82. Ninja4ever. 83. Chezinu 84. JoxxOr 85. ahrara_ 86. Queasy 87. Pangolin 88. Naib 89. butidigress 90. ~OpZ~ 91. Scorch 92. Jimtudor 93. spoinka 94. unsoundlogic 95. OneBlueAugust 96. TranceStorm 97. suresh0t 98. decafchicken 99. DamageControL 100. omfghi2u2 101. RowdierBob 102. Meta 103. SpiritoftheTuna 104. AmorVincitOmnia 105. Wysp 106. BuGzlToOnl 107. GrayArea 108. xDark.Carnivalx 109. MidnightGladius 110. crazie-penguin 111. CTStalker 112. {88}iNcontroL 113. DTDominion 114. zeks 115. useLess 116. Last Romantic 117. d.arkive 118. Plexa 119. G.s)NarutO 120. Evilmonkey. 121. NeaX 122. Showtime! 123. Klive5ive 124. Lenwe 125. Kau 126. Ghar 127. L 128. KH1031 129. ShadowDrgn 130. rpf | ||
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CDRdude
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fusionsdf--I don't know if he's a mafia or not, it's too early to tell. He did announce his candidacy before the game ever began though, so he probably enjoys the game a lot. In his favor, he apparently rightly guessed a lot of mafioso from game one. However, the catch is that he did it with Plexa. Small though the chance may be, this might be during time that Plexa would have otherwise devoted to writing TLFE's. Can we take that chance? Meh: His candidacy might be a joke, he seems to have zero votes, but it was a pretty good argument randombum: I kind of liked his mass PM, it showed effort. I'm not so sure about his voting record in game 1 though. He voted half the time, although with 100% accuracy (voted FS for mayor, and voted to lynch mafia the only times he voted). I'm not sure if he'll increase his activity this game, but he seems to have quite the good record for rooting out mafia. SoMuchBetter: Ah, SMB. I didn't trust him at all last game, and he turned out to be a townie. Go figure. Also because of last game, whenever I think of SoMuchBetter, I think of a fat guy in a purple suit with a monocle. Last game, he kind of disappeared off the radar after failing his mayoral campaign, but that was probably because he didn't get elected. He also sent out mass PM's, with MSpaint in them (also before the role PM's), but he was pretty much copying randombum in them. Ghar: He posted an MS paint image, but not much else. He's an unknown here, as he registered and his first post was in the mafia thread (maybe all of his posts are in the mafia thread) SunuvBob: After asking around a bit, he decided to run for mayor. I guess this shows that he isn't afraid of a bit of work looking through profiles, but at first he was asking others to do it for him. In his favor, he is a mod--I assume that he has methods of searching at his disposal that we do not (can you search for posts by a certain person? I don't know how). His platform is also excellent. araav: He has a fairly sensible platform, and he also went the extra mile by making a list of all of 130 profiles. I respect your hard work, but since he didn't play in the first round, I have no voting record to base stuff off of. Kuja900: I'm biased against him, because of his post. To Kuja900: please use punctuation. (These should be posted in the order that they proclaimed their candidacy. The last two on the list actually started their campaign after I started writing this, but before I posted it. Good thing I checked for that before I posted.) My favorites here are: fusionsdf -- he seems to have worked hard at rooting out mafia in game one, and was fairly successful. Props to him, but he did have another guy to bounce ideas off of. What if one person out of the pair winds up mafia, and they still trade ideas? Sure, Plexa publicly supported his nomination, but that could be real, or it could be a trick, we don't know. randombum -- His mass PM showed a bit of effort and initiative, even if it wasn't so well thought out. He also has quite the voting record in game 1, which is a point in his favor. SunuvBob -- I don't know much about him, but he's a mod. If he araav -- The man isn't afraid of doing some hard detective work. Otherwise, still an unknown. I hope that this (opinionated) guide to the candidates helps with your voting. ==edit== Apparently there's more to Ghar than what I wrote down, but I'm going to ignore it for now, because it's 1:00 AM here. | ||
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CDRdude
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fusionsdf--I don't know if he's a mafia or not, it's too early to tell. He did announce his candidacy before the game ever began though, so he probably enjoys the game a lot. In his favor, he apparently rightly guessed a lot of mafioso from game one. However, the catch is that he did it with Plexa. Small though the chance may be, this might be during time that Plexa would have otherwise devoted to writing TLFE's. Can we take that chance? Meh: His candidacy might be a joke, he seems to have zero votes, but it was a pretty good argument randombum: I kind of liked his mass PM, it showed effort. I'm not so sure about his voting record in game 1 though. He voted with 100% accuracy (voted FS for mayor, and voted to lynch mafia the only times he voted). He seems to have quite the good record for rooting out mafia. I don't know if he's our number one choice for mayor, but it shows that he's putting some effort into it. SoMuchBetter: Ah, SMB. I didn't trust him at all last game, and he turned out to be a townie. Go figure. Also because of last game, whenever I think of SoMuchBetter, I think of a fat guy in a purple suit with a monocle. Last game, he kind of disappeared off the radar after failing his mayoral campaign, but that was probably because he didn't get elected. He also sent out mass PM's (apparently to like 10 people, rather than 130 though), with MSpaint in them (also before the role PM's), but he was pretty much copying randombum in them. Ghar: So far, all we know about him is that he registered for the forum for the mafia game, and that his plan of action is for all the detectives to PM him. I don't really like this, because the best scenario is a guy who knows who all the detectives are, with the addition of a few mafia. The worst scenario is a mafioso who is willing to sacrifice himself in return for denying the town a mayor and as many detectives as possibile. SunuvBob: After asking around a bit, he decided to run for mayor. I guess this shows that he isn't afraid of a bit of work looking through profiles, but at first he was asking others to do it for him. In his favor, he is a mod--I assume that he has methods of searching at his disposal that we do not (can you search for posts by a certain person? I don't know how). His platform is also excellent. araav: He has a fairly sensible platform, and he also went the extra mile by making a list of all of 130 profiles. I respect your hard work, but since he didn't play in the first round, I have no voting record to base stuff off of. Kuja900: I'm biased against him, because of his post. To Kuja900: please use punctuation. Ace: I missed his candidacy post the first time, but I'm liking his ideas. His bodyguard plan seems pretty damn good, much better than our elder=leader plan last game. His arguments are rational, and I'm liking that. Empyrean: Claims to be a detective, and is trying to force us to vote for him. Is it worth the risk? Why would a real detective come out of the closet so early? I'm distrustful of his early gambit, but if he isn't lying, then we might waste a golden opportunity. I just don't know. I hope that this (opinionated) guide to the candidates helps with your voting. ==edit== Forgot to add Empyrean. Oh, and I voted for Ace, in case you were wondering. | ||
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With age comes wisdom and experience. With luck, he has gained enough experience with age to advance a few levels, making him more powerful, and giving him bonus skill points. Also, with age, your Wis stat increases. This is important, because Wisdom includes intuition, and given the town's track record of analyzing clues, this may be important. Furthermore, WIS effects savings throws and survival checks, and Sense Motive uses Wisdom as it's key ability. All of his stat bonuses have modifiers with age. In his profile, his birthday is listed in 1979. This means he's at about middle age at this point, which means: -1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha As can be seen, you get more intelligent as well as wiser with age, as shown by his coding skills. Most unfortunately, he has -1 to Str, Dex and Con. If the mafia goes after him, this could prove fatal. This informative post brought to you by CDRdude. (RIP Gary Gygax) | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Why there is no flaw] + Okay. In this example, we will have 7 bodyguards, 1 mayor, 20 mafia, and a bunch of other people who aren't important, we can call them townies. If the mayor is mafia, and is smart, he will do this: Send a PM to: Bodyguard 1 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 As far as the legitimate bodyguard can tell, this is legit. The mafia will obviously claim to be bodyguards, and Bodyguard 1 won't know better. Send a PM to: Bodyguard 2 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 Again, the real bodyguard can't tell the difference. PM3: Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 You should be getting the point by now. If you aren't, you probably don't deserve to be mayor. The mafia mayor can do this a total of seven times, so that each bodyguard receives a PM with 6 other people on it. Each of those people insist that they are bodyguards, the real bodyguards won't know the difference, and no real bodyguard will be left out. Since no real bodyguard will be left out, nobody will stand out to say that they didn't receive a PM. This can't last forever, but it can do a lot of damage. One of two things will happen; either a bodyguard will stand out, according to qrs' plan. The other (real) bodyguards will recognize him as not being in their group, and they'll cry out. Confusion ensues, but people will soon realize that the mayor is a mafioso. However, this takes a bit of time, and the mafia gets a good bit of damage in. BUT---once the real situation is discovered, mafia's 1-6 lives are forfeit. Net gain for the town. The mafia could avoid some of this by mixing in more bodyguards to the PM's, but even then it's a loss for the mafia, gain for the town. The other possibility is if no bodyguard stands out (the mayor ignores qrs' plan) and a fake detective proclaims that the mayor is innocent. That's nice. However, that also assumes that no other detective checked on the mayor, which is unlikely to happen. Soon, the truth will come out, and the bodyguards will realize that the others in the message are fakes, and can be lynched/mad hatted/killed during the night/permabanned or whatever. End result: town is ahead. This will be a bit bloody, but about equal numbers of mafia and town will die here, so that's still +town. How to avoid all the mess: Basically, qrs' plan is needed. A bodyguard has to step forward. All the real bodyguards will know whether or not he was included in the PM to them, so you don't have to confirm anything. Of course, that bodyguard will probably be gunned down during the night, but whatever, sucks for him. | ||
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CDRdude
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![[image loading]](http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3782/lolshallowmg6.png) Wow, what are the chances | ||
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On March 19 2008 13:39 ShadowDrgn wrote: Clue: he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed Suspect: CDRdude Reason: Sig mentions lurkers unburrowing, which can "come out of nowhere" and cut armies off. While I appreciate your thoughts on the clues, I disagree with this one. | ||
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On March 19 2008 15:56 HotZhot wrote: Why? I voted for FS for the pure roflness of it, the game ended so much more entertaining because of it. He's probably against FS (orr maybe joking) because FS' first act as mayor was to insta-lynch Alethios. I think he's joking, but he has reason to be annoyed. | ||
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On March 19 2008 18:10 ahrara_ wrote: Well, you had my vote initially. Unfortunately, you're the Ralph Nader of this election. If you endorsed randombum, we can keep Empyrean out of office, which I think is important. If you know so much about American politics, why does your profile list you as from Afghanistan? I'm not really sure about Ralph Nader's international prestige, but I really doubt it extends to Afghanistan. And it might not extend to Australia either, which is what Ghar's profile lists. | ||
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