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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 13 2008 05:04 GMT
#13
I believe if you were active last game he automatically signed you up for this game.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 19 2008 09:11 GMT
#995
Im going to laugh if Empyrean dies and is a detective if he isnt voted into office lol.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 20 2008 05:17 GMT
#1368
I don't agree with how you lynched your first candidate, just like last game with FS, he killed someone who voiced his opinion against him. Now you kill someone because he doesn't post, honestly that is a horrible decision, and a bad theory to do. Chuiu said, you HAVE to vote to be in the game. so if anyone didn't vote, then why are you targeting them? People that don't vote shouldn't be in the game.

Honestly, if you want my opinion on how to lynch the first person, I would look at the clues first, find how people who have *voted* relate to clues vaguely (and i mean like in an easy sense, such as Mr. blue -> Oneblueaugust, Mr. pink -> that guy with )pink (sorry i cant remember your name)), and pick from that list of people. They have to have voted, and then i would look at their posts, small posts, or posts that sound illogical, or something not ordinary.

You have to remember, townies have no reason to lie, and aren't trying to hide anything (except maybe vigilantes), where as mafia HAVE to lie to stay concealed and look like a townie.

PS. I also thought that Chuiu mentioned how he was going to move special roles from inactive people to active people somewhere. If that is true, we just lost a mad hatter, and it would of been better to kill a townie for such a reason of keeping our special roles.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 20 2008 06:04 GMT
#1413
i think he means more than 4 detective has messaged him, or other people with roles are messaging him
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 20 2008 08:13 GMT
#1441
Honestly Naib, if a townie was lurking, they aren't adding anything. They should post, even if its just to say they like Ace's plan, agree with the questions being asked about it, mostly because it shows them posting.

As said before in another post, Townies naturally will be telling the truth (or i hope so, they have nothing to hide), while Mafia will be trying to lie and appear to be telling the truth. Eventually the lies will catch up to them and they will be caught.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 20 2008 08:48 GMT
#1445
Guess he wasn't Incontrol of the game yet.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 20 2008 08:52 GMT
#1448
make a better one then!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 20 2008 10:29 GMT
#1454
On March 20 2008 18:00 Naib wrote:
Or maybe just stop with the senseless one-liners, as there's too much to read for anyone who just sleeps regularly. Not to mention those who don't have time to check here more than once a day.

Shall we?


its like 6:30 am here, so im kind of just doing stuff for fun ^^, im about to sleep though, g'night
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 21 2008 22:50 GMT
#1784
There is no reason to be impatient or nervous on night 1. You have a 9/110 chance of dieing, and think of the odds that 7/110 could be watching one of those 9, to save them!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 22 2008 03:12 GMT
#1808
On March 22 2008 12:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2008 11:32 Mynock wrote:
Two mafias, HIGH FIVE!!

Daybreak when? I will die


Mynock, I've had enough of these immature random accusations. I understand if you're just trying to have fun, but confusing the town is never a good thing.


you are confusing me shallow, stop posting these crazy antics!

Can't wait for day btw =P
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-22 05:23:14
March 22 2008 05:07 GMT
#1852
Time to work on clues, lets see it out!

"Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock." - Swooped down from above. Much like a bird of prey, or a fight jet in a dog fight, things that fly going after a target.

"They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring." - possibly a link to not being clear on sound, unsoundlogic? we had a clue in day 1 about something that just didnt make sense, now we hear yells that are not clearly deciphering, but it could just be part of the story.

"He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place." - a smiley? possibly a reference to someones posting style, or someone who uses smileys a lot in their posts?

"He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot." - ate a mouthful, just like in day 1, eat lead for dinner, another reference to eating lead (because obviously a shotgun shoots lead)

"He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire." - a jamming device, possibly people whose names refer to electronics, or if they themselves deal with electronics.

"Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back." - 3 sets of 3? something with the number 3, possibly in their name, or a quote.


"Yogurt and OneBlueAugust were playing a game of pool in the basement minding their own business when they heard the sound resonate from the house next door." - sound resonate, possible clue, not going to rule it out, but i dont think its a solid clue.

"they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself" - Another relation to Ghar's quote, surrounded by enemy divisions, willing to fight any one that got in their way.

"OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground." - gooey substance, im going with its a clue, but im not sure to who yet.

That is all i saw that jumped out at me aside from this last tidbit. During the last paragraph with OneBlueAugust and Yogurt, there were multiple comments about relative ease, or easy opponents, easy fight, etc. Possibly a link to someone in mafia.


Edit: to make it easier to read per say Mr. Bob a few posts later (lemme know if you want it looking like something else)
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 22 2008 05:10 GMT
#1853
On March 22 2008 14:06 SonuvBob wrote:
Nice, are there any other clues pointing to either of them?


Unforgiven_ve has a pink rabbit as his avatar, possible correlation to Mr. Pink
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 22 2008 05:28 GMT
#1863
On March 22 2008 14:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=suresh0t
He's holding a hammer? Maybe this one is a stretch, but whatever. I don't think any Pink references fit him.


Dont forget that from last game when Chuiu wrote clues, not all clues that we expected to be pointed at a mafia were pointing at that mafia. Some clues that seemed to say point at Empyrean, could have pointed at Fen in game 1.

So that clue may relate to suresh0t, even if he has Mr. Pink as a code name. the code name just could be referencing a mafia in general.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 22 2008 05:35 GMT
#1869
Even still, they targeted you, and now you are dead, so sadly by what Chuiu has stated in the rules, you shouldn't be posting :x
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 22 2008 05:39 GMT
#1874
On March 22 2008 14:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2008 14:34 goldenkrnboi wrote:
although i don't get why mafia decided to target me....


i really didn't contribute that much this game. o.o


Last game we just hit random people, with one or two threats thrown in (Mynock this round). This makes me think, although nowhere near 100% certainty, that either someone is mafia again this game or that they were just paying attention to our strategy (maybe a lurker from last game).

Not really anything to go on

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2008 14:35 Caller wrote:
I'm assuming that perhaps the name of each snake corresponds to the geographical location of a person. For instance we have 2 Australian snakes (great black or mamba or w/e and the taipan) and at least one american snake (the cottonmouth)


and the Sidewinder from Day 1.


I actually don't believe this theory of their randomness, yet. They hit multiple people who talked alot, Mynock, Oneblueaugust. They put forth multiple posts that were positive for the town.

Also, they only hit 5/9 people, so that means 4 people were protected (go medics!), so possibly they were hitting targets that they believe are going to be useful for the game, people who talk a lot about clues, or try and get people to post and incur discussion. I'm surprised they didn't try to hit me last night, I made a few posts that were fairly insightful to townies that don't play as often as others.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 23 2008 15:55 GMT
#2114
they send a list in at the end of night to chuiu, who then writes the day post about who died. he makes clues on all, or almost all mafia in that post, whether they pm chuiu or not. just look at mafia 1 during the explanation at the end, mafia were just sending a list of people.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 24 2008 20:21 GMT
#2553
On March 25 2008 05:18 Showtime! wrote:
yeah, the odds aren't in their favor. I'm still kind of weirded out by this mafia list thing and how it works exactly. So they are allowed to provide a list of 9 people to target? Lets say they pick 5 or even 3. So if they pick five how does the split work? Does the person at the list pretty much automatically die if they push all their members on them if they have protection?

If it's three well shit son I guess all three would die because you would have at least 6 on one person.


it goes like this:

To: Chuiu
From: Mafia leader, Eddie

Here is our kill list for tonight:

1. suspect 1
2. suspect 2
3. suspect 3
4. showtime!
5. shallowbay
6.
7.
8.
9.


If they send that list, they only use 5 hits, therefore, if they want to hit shallow twice, it should look like this

1. suspect 1
2. suspect 2
3. suspect 3
4. showtime!
5. shallowbay
6. shallowbay
7.
8.
9.

and if they really wanted to kill shallow:

1. shallowbay
2. shallowbay
3. shallowbay
4. shallowbay
5. shallowbay
6. shallowbay
7. shallowbay
8. shallowbay
9. shallowbay

If they leave any slot blank, they dont kill anyone on the list twice, its just a no kill period.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 26 2008 07:22 GMT
#2858
I thought the saboteur and suicide bomber were included in the 20 mafia o.o, because there are 110 townies out of 130, so thats 20 left for mafia slots. therefore its 20/130, not 22/130
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-26 07:32:37
March 26 2008 07:31 GMT
#2862
I believe what Ace is going on is that even though the % is close to the mean in that group of 58, its a better % of finding mafia and innocents (say one group there is no mafia, other has all 10), than say, choosing the group that didn't vote/abstained from voting. Therefore, he is picking the most reasonable approach of the use of this detective power. While i think he should just use one detective role on the ghar group, its really up to him, and if he finds mafia that way, then good for him. Otherwise until you provide a better plan (and i mean complete plan of action tomorrow) to use those powers and make them more useful than what Ace is doing, I suggest you not to try and post stuff saying that his way is retarded.

edit: grammar
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 26 2008 07:38 GMT
#2863
Ok, I'll post about your argument, I didn't use a calculator, but i have rough numbers for you.

Saying using the powers on 2x groups of 29 on a 10/58 group of mafia is his worst choice (it isnt, the 1/7 is). That means the remaining people are thrown into a group of (103-65 = 38), that means 9/38 (~23.4%) of guessing. The only problem with having those 38 vote, is that

A) They all voted for different people/abstained
B) They didn't vote at all, meaning they are away, not wanting to post

So what Ace is doing is he is having the people he know for sure posted and voted, to use them, rather than trying an uncertainty of getting people that may be away/inactive to vote. That is why his way is the most reasonable way of doing the votes. If i had anything to guess at, he probably will use a double lynch tomorrow because of the 2 groups, because otherwise you will have 2 even groups (but that could change with the day post)
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